Decisions, descisions, Pentax to Sony

rwingsfan · 12-30-2013, 07:45 PM

Here is the deal. I have been loving my Pentax ride for the last couple years and there is nothing wrong with this kit, so why am I thinking of jumping on the Sony boat? I bought a used NEX 5r a couple months ago and quite literally have fallen in love with it. Sure it has shortcomings, namely the interface, but I am slowly getting more comfortable with said interface. So I have been thinking on selling my entire pentax kit and getting a Sony dslr to complete my transformation. If you were in my shoes which Sony dslr would you get. I am not endured to FF so croppers are fine. Would probably have $1500 or so for body and a few "a" lens. I probably go used as its better value. So what models should I be looking at. I would hold on to a few pentax manual lens, but get rid of the rest of my stable. Please don't bother trying to talk me out of it as I am not sure I even will. Just trying to get a feel for their dslrs and some ideas for research. Another thought was getting the adapter to use "a" glass on the nex. Any suggestions?

Fogel70 · 12-31-2013, 02:20 AM

I would wait until they have a more advanced camera than A3000 with E-mount.
IMO there is not much advantage getting a Sony camera with A-mount if you like Nex cameras with E-mount. A full support nex adapter for A.mount is very expensive so IMO a E-mount camera is a much better option.

Sony stopped manufacturing DSLR a few years ago, so your only option for a modern A-mount camera is a SLT.
.

pinholecam · 12-31-2013, 02:29 AM

There aren't any Sony DSLRs.
They stopped it for the SLTs about 4yrs ago.
Now it seems that they have also moved away from their SLTs and A-mount into the new NEX E mount with the Sony A7/r

As for the SLTs, I'd say "Stay away"
The 1/3 stop of light loss because of the translucent mirror takes it toll from ISO1600 and up.
Its also imho abandoned for the E mount and will need a clunky adapter for use of the A-mount lenses.

The route for Sony will be to go E-mount with the aps-C NEX cameras or the FF A7/r cameras.

**rparmar** · 12-31-2013, 05:30 AM

The full-frame Sony units will be the way to go. Though I would sit tight and see how this develops. Though you haven't said what shortcomings you are trying to overcome.

jogiba · 12-31-2013, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by pinholecam

There aren't any Sony DSLRs.
They stopped it for the SLTs about 4yrs ago.
Now it seems that they have also moved away from their SLTs and A-mount into the new NEX E mount with the Sony A7/r

As for the SLTs, I'd say "Stay away"
The 1/3 stop of light loss because of the translucent mirror takes it toll from ISO1600 and up.
Its also imho abandoned for the E mount and will need a clunky adapter for use of the A-mount lenses.

The route for Sony will be to go E-mount with the aps-C NEX cameras or the FF A7/r cameras.

(SR4) 4 mio dot EVF for the next generation of A.mount cameras. | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) First few Hybrid A-E mount model details. | sonyalpharumors
(SR5) One High End E-Mount APS-C within 4-6 weeks. Two A-mount cameras to come within January and April. | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) Sigma 18-35mm A-mount could ship in January. | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) 24-105 f/4 FF A-mount coming end 2014. | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) First specs about the new Sony 54 Megapixel Full Frame sensor! | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) A-mount showdown between February and April. 4K A-mount camera coming. | sonyalpharumors

Image on top shows the Sony 4K mockup camera

TonyTurley · 12-31-2013, 07:04 AM

I had been hoping that Sony would come out with a weather-sealed A5000, but decided to go with a Pentax K-30, which I'm liking very much. I'm still keeping my Nex-5R, which works very well with the stable of Minolta lenses I've accumulated. YMMV

Tony

osv · 12-31-2013, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

(SR4) 4 mio dot EVF for the next generation of A.mount cameras. | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) First few Hybrid A-E mount model details. | sonyalpharumors
(SR5) One High End E-Mount APS-C within 4-6 weeks. Two A-mount cameras to come within January and April. | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) Sigma 18-35mm A-mount could ship in January. | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) 24-105 f/4 FF A-mount coming end 2014. | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) First specs about the new Sony 54 Megapixel Full Frame sensor! | sonyalpharumors
(SR4) A-mount showdown between February and April. 4K A-mount camera coming. | sonyalpharumors

that all you got? most of us in the real world probably won't gamble our future platform expenditures on the totally unsubstantiated predictions of *one* website, especially that site.

rwingsfan, if you can shoot everything you need with that nex that you own now, why not look at a used nex7, maybe with 30mm & 60mm sigma lenses... cheap glass with very good resolution, and the nex7 will mount just about any lens that's ever been made, with the right adapter.

Kunzite · 01-01-2014, 04:58 AM

That "hybrid A-E mount" rumor, for how long is it running?
Now it has a lever to "lift" the A mount, where exactly is not specified.

bimjo · 01-01-2014, 07:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kunzite

That "hybrid A-E mount" rumor, for how long is it running?
Now it has a lever to "lift" the A mount, where exactly is not specified.

Not as long as a Pentax FF body rumor has been running.

yusuf · 01-01-2014, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by rwingsfan

....So I have been thinking on selling my entire pentax kit and getting a Sony dslr to complete my transformation. If you were in my shoes which Sony dslr would you get.....

Why not nex-6 or nex-7 instead of Sony DSLR since you already liked 5r.

rwingsfan · 01-01-2014, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by yusuf

Why not nex-6 or nex-7 instead of Sony DSLR since you already liked 5r.

Not sure what getting one of those models would do other than make my 5r redundant. Was thinking more along the lines of using "A" mount glass

jogiba · 01-01-2014, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by osv

that all you got? most of us in the real world probably won't gamble our future platform expenditures on the totally unsubstantiated predictions of *one* website, especially that site.

rwingsfan, if you can shoot everything you need with that nex that you own now, why not look at a used nex7, maybe with 30mm & 60mm sigma lenses... cheap glass with very good resolution, and the nex7 will mount just about any lens that's ever been made, with the right adapter.

Right, all of the Sony cameras on that site are just rumors and will never be produced.

(SR5) Cheap NEX-FF has 24MP, High End NEX-FF has 36 MP | sonyalpharumors

bvg · 01-01-2014, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by osv

especially that site.

And what is the problem with 'that' site?

Kunzite · 01-02-2014, 08:44 AM

It appears they're too eager to post totally unsubstantiated predictions/rumors. Will we ever see that hybrid mount? Or Olympus' one, for that matter. Photorumors is no better, they were easily fooled by Adam's April 1st "joke" - I would definitely not believe rumors until verified by at least another source.

By the way, claiming that all rumors are plausible because some of them were true is called faulty generalization

bvg · 01-02-2014, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

It appears they're too eager to post totally unsubstantiated predictions/rumors.

I do not have such impression. And specialization of that site is Sony rumors, other rumors are just copied from other sites.

Originally posted by Kunzite

Will we ever see that hybrid mount?

between late 2014 and early 2015 with probability 75%

12-30-2013, 07:45 PM	#1
rwingsfan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 274	Decisions, descisions, Pentax to Sony Here is the deal. I have been loving my Pentax ride for the last couple years and there is nothing wrong with this kit, so why am I thinking of jumping on the Sony boat? I bought a used NEX 5r a couple months ago and quite literally have fallen in love with it. Sure it has shortcomings, namely the interface, but I am slowly getting more comfortable with said interface. So I have been thinking on selling my entire pentax kit and getting a Sony dslr to complete my transformation. If you were in my shoes which Sony dslr would you get. I am not endured to FF so croppers are fine. Would probably have $1500 or so for body and a few "a" lens. I probably go used as its better value. So what models should I be looking at. I would hold on to a few pentax manual lens, but get rid of the rest of my stable. Please don't bother trying to talk me out of it as I am not sure I even will. Just trying to get a feel for their dslrs and some ideas for research. Another thought was getting the adapter to use "a" glass on the nex. Any suggestions?

01-02-2014, 09:33 AM	#15
bvg Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 340	Originally posted by Kunzite It appears they're too eager to post totally unsubstantiated predictions/rumors. I do not have such impression. And specialization of that site is Sony rumors, other rumors are just copied from other sites. Originally posted by Kunzite Will we ever see that hybrid mount? between late 2014 and early 2015 with probability 75% Last edited by bvg; 01-02-2014 at 10:08 AM.

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12-31-2013, 02:20 AM	#2
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	I would wait until they have a more advanced camera than A3000 with E-mount. IMO there is not much advantage getting a Sony camera with A-mount if you like Nex cameras with E-mount. A full support nex adapter for A.mount is very expensive so IMO a E-mount camera is a much better option. Sony stopped manufacturing DSLR a few years ago, so your only option for a modern A-mount camera is a SLT. .

12-31-2013, 02:29 AM	#3
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	There aren't any Sony DSLRs. They stopped it for the SLTs about 4yrs ago. Now it seems that they have also moved away from their SLTs and A-mount into the new NEX E mount with the Sony A7/r As for the SLTs, I'd say "Stay away" The 1/3 stop of light loss because of the translucent mirror takes it toll from ISO1600 and up. Its also imho abandoned for the E mount and will need a clunky adapter for use of the A-mount lenses. The route for Sony will be to go E-mount with the aps-C NEX cameras or the FF A7/r cameras.

12-31-2013, 05:30 AM	#4
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	The full-frame Sony units will be the way to go. Though I would sit tight and see how this develops. Though you haven't said what shortcomings you are trying to overcome.

12-31-2013, 06:19 AM	#5
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by pinholecam There aren't any Sony DSLRs. They stopped it for the SLTs about 4yrs ago. Now it seems that they have also moved away from their SLTs and A-mount into the new NEX E mount with the Sony A7/r As for the SLTs, I'd say "Stay away" The 1/3 stop of light loss because of the translucent mirror takes it toll from ISO1600 and up. Its also imho abandoned for the E mount and will need a clunky adapter for use of the A-mount lenses. The route for Sony will be to go E-mount with the aps-C NEX cameras or the FF A7/r cameras. (SR4) 4 mio dot EVF for the next generation of A.mount cameras. \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) First few Hybrid A-E mount model details. \| sonyalpharumors (SR5) One High End E-Mount APS-C within 4-6 weeks. Two A-mount cameras to come within January and April. \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) Sigma 18-35mm A-mount could ship in January. \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) 24-105 f/4 FF A-mount coming end 2014. \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) First specs about the new Sony 54 Megapixel Full Frame sensor! \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) A-mount showdown between February and April. 4K A-mount camera coming. \| sonyalpharumors Image on top shows the Sony 4K mockup camera

12-31-2013, 07:04 AM	#6
TonyTurley Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Scott Depot, WV Posts: 1,240	I had been hoping that Sony would come out with a weather-sealed A5000, but decided to go with a Pentax K-30, which I'm liking very much. I'm still keeping my Nex-5R, which works very well with the stable of Minolta lenses I've accumulated. YMMV Tony

12-31-2013, 09:28 PM	#7
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	Originally posted by jogiba (SR4) 4 mio dot EVF for the next generation of A.mount cameras. \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) First few Hybrid A-E mount model details. \| sonyalpharumors (SR5) One High End E-Mount APS-C within 4-6 weeks. Two A-mount cameras to come within January and April. \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) Sigma 18-35mm A-mount could ship in January. \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) 24-105 f/4 FF A-mount coming end 2014. \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) First specs about the new Sony 54 Megapixel Full Frame sensor! \| sonyalpharumors (SR4) A-mount showdown between February and April. 4K A-mount camera coming. \| sonyalpharumors that all you got? most of us in the real world probably won't gamble our future platform expenditures on the totally unsubstantiated predictions of one website, especially that site. rwingsfan, if you can shoot everything you need with that nex that you own now, why not look at a used nex7, maybe with 30mm & 60mm sigma lenses... cheap glass with very good resolution, and the nex7 will mount just about any lens that's ever been made, with the right adapter.

01-01-2014, 04:58 AM	#8
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	That "hybrid A-E mount" rumor, for how long is it running? Now it has a lever to "lift" the A mount, where exactly is not specified.

01-01-2014, 07:57 AM - 1 Like	#9
bimjo Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pasco, WA Posts: 967	Originally posted by Kunzite That "hybrid A-E mount" rumor, for how long is it running? Now it has a lever to "lift" the A mount, where exactly is not specified. Not as long as a Pentax FF body rumor has been running.

01-01-2014, 08:41 AM	#10
yusuf Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palo Alto, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,497	Originally posted by rwingsfan ....So I have been thinking on selling my entire pentax kit and getting a Sony dslr to complete my transformation. If you were in my shoes which Sony dslr would you get..... Why not nex-6 or nex-7 instead of Sony DSLR since you already liked 5r.

01-01-2014, 12:03 PM	#11
rwingsfan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 274 Original Poster	Originally posted by yusuf Why not nex-6 or nex-7 instead of Sony DSLR since you already liked 5r. Not sure what getting one of those models would do other than make my 5r redundant. Was thinking more along the lines of using "A" mount glass

01-01-2014, 05:38 PM	#12
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by osv that all you got? most of us in the real world probably won't gamble our future platform expenditures on the totally unsubstantiated predictions of one website, especially that site. rwingsfan, if you can shoot everything you need with that nex that you own now, why not look at a used nex7, maybe with 30mm & 60mm sigma lenses... cheap glass with very good resolution, and the nex7 will mount just about any lens that's ever been made, with the right adapter. Right, all of the Sony cameras on that site are just rumors and will never be produced. (SR5) Cheap NEX-FF has 24MP, High End NEX-FF has 36 MP \| sonyalpharumors

01-01-2014, 08:11 PM	#13
bvg Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 340	Originally posted by osv especially that site. And what is the problem with 'that' site?

01-02-2014, 08:44 AM	#14
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	It appears they're too eager to post totally unsubstantiated predictions/rumors. Will we ever see that hybrid mount? Or Olympus' one, for that matter. Photorumors is no better, they were easily fooled by Adam's April 1st "joke" - I would definitely not believe rumors until verified by at least another source. By the way, claiming that all rumors are plausible because some of them were true is called faulty generalization