does this seem noisy to you?

Wired · 01-19-2014, 09:05 PM

this is a throw away shot from the weekend. a definite miss. However, the one thing this shot has that is consistent with the other shots I took this weekend is the amount of noise at iso800 on a D800.

This image is un-edited, just into lightroom and exported out at highest jpg settings. The camera settings are:

uncompressed RAW recording
14 bit
Active D-Lighting is Low
long exposure NR off
high iso nr off

Parry · 01-19-2014, 09:09 PM

It just look blurred. Not noisy.

Wired · 01-19-2014, 09:23 PM

Gotta view it at or near original size on Flickr sorry

Parry · 01-19-2014, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Wired

Gotta view it at or near original size on Flickr sorry

I did my Bruv.

Not noisy.

Don't worry.

tuco · 01-19-2014, 10:34 PM

I don't have a 100% crop handy but this is ISO 4500 on the D800 with no noise reduction applied. At 100% on the computer screen I see some noise but not enough to apply noise reduction for this scaled down version and my taste anyway.

Parry · 01-19-2014, 10:48 PM

ISO4500 is but a pipe dream for those of us presently stuck with you know what . . .

tuco · 01-20-2014, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by Wired

Active D-Lighting is Low
high iso nr off

BTW, I believe those do not apply to the RAW file.

Wired · 01-20-2014, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by tuco

BTW, I believe those do not apply to the RAW file.

I didn't think they did

mrNewt · 01-20-2014, 06:39 AM

Noisy!? No...
Blurry!? Very!

tuco · 01-20-2014, 07:02 AM

What about other ISO800 shots? The scene and light seem to play a roll on noise.

Wired · 01-20-2014, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by tuco

What about other ISO800 shots? The scene and light seem to play a roll on noise.

Pretty much every iso800 + shot I take has this kind of noise too it no matter the lens or the scene. I almost always have to apply some kind of noise reduction.

Wired · 01-20-2014, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by mrNewt

Noisy!? No...
Blurry!? Very!

yea, it was a missed shot for sure.

I'm surprised no one sees the noise. I know a commenter on Flickr did.

mrNewt · 01-20-2014, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Wired

yea, it was a missed shot for sure.

I'm surprised no one sees the noise. I know a commenter on Flickr did.

Well then, if he saw it then it must be true... time to sell your camera and upgrade to the next very best

.

Jokes aside though, unless I am going blind, I fail to see the noise... in that specific photo.
I hope people don't confuse the "noise" with the dark spots on the tarmac... that's normal and is not noise... unless you wanna say is road noise... !?

Wired · 01-20-2014, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by mrNewt

Well then, if he saw it then it must be true... time to sell your camera and upgrade to the next very best

.

Jokes aside though, unless I am going blind, I fail to see the noise... in that specific photo.
I hope people don't confuse the "noise" with the dark spots on the tarmac... that's normal and is not noise... unless you wanna say is road noise... !?

I'd say the jacket is the best place to bring the photo to 1:1 and see what I'm talking about.

Maybe I'm too pickey. I'm not a pixel peeper, but when I zoom in to do some post processing work (ie get rid of chromatic) it irritates me how noisy it is. Of course the image looks fine scaled down for web or printed even upto a 36" print

mrNewt · 01-20-2014, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by Wired

I'd say the jacket is the best place to bring the photo to 1:1 and see what I'm talking about.

Maybe I'm too pickey. I'm not a pixel peeper, but when I zoom in to do some post processing work (ie get rid of chromatic) it irritates me how noisy it is. Of course the image looks fine scaled down for web or printed even upto a 36" print

.

I think that is the "issue" and "solution" of your question

.

Any pictures in those conditions will give you a small, faint grain.
Even at ISO 100, on any camera you will have a very small faint of grain (especially when you zoom in) on unprocessed pictures - is normal.

However, for ISO 800 the amount of noise is so small I think is negligible.

It is slightly more visible on the jacket because of the light conditions (sort of back-lit) and the color of the jacket (or rather lack of it).

I would be more concerned on that CA that you are talking about

01-19-2014, 09:05 PM	#1
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	does this seem noisy to you? this is a throw away shot from the weekend. a definite miss. However, the one thing this shot has that is consistent with the other shots I took this weekend is the amount of noise at iso800 on a D800. This image is un-edited, just into lightroom and exported out at highest jpg settings. The camera settings are: uncompressed RAW recording 14 bit Active D-Lighting is Low long exposure NR off high iso nr off

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Parry Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 606	It just look blurred. Not noisy.

01-19-2014, 09:23 PM	#3
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Gotta view it at or near original size on Flickr sorry

01-19-2014, 09:41 PM	#4
Parry Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 606	Originally posted by Wired Gotta view it at or near original size on Flickr sorry I did my Bruv. Not noisy. Don't worry.

01-19-2014, 10:34 PM	#5
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,027	I don't have a 100% crop handy but this is ISO 4500 on the D800 with no noise reduction applied. At 100% on the computer screen I see some noise but not enough to apply noise reduction for this scaled down version and my taste anyway.

01-19-2014, 10:48 PM	#6
Parry Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 606	ISO4500 is but a pipe dream for those of us presently stuck with you know what . . .

01-20-2014, 12:10 AM	#7
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,027	Originally posted by Wired Active D-Lighting is Low high iso nr off BTW, I believe those do not apply to the RAW file.

01-20-2014, 06:18 AM	#8
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Originally posted by tuco BTW, I believe those do not apply to the RAW file. I didn't think they did

01-20-2014, 06:39 AM	#9
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Noisy!? No... Blurry!? Very!

01-20-2014, 07:02 AM	#10
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,027	What about other ISO800 shots? The scene and light seem to play a roll on noise.

01-20-2014, 07:43 AM	#11
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Originally posted by tuco What about other ISO800 shots? The scene and light seem to play a roll on noise. Pretty much every iso800 + shot I take has this kind of noise too it no matter the lens or the scene. I almost always have to apply some kind of noise reduction.

01-20-2014, 07:44 AM	#12
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Originally posted by mrNewt Noisy!? No... Blurry!? Very! yea, it was a missed shot for sure. I'm surprised no one sees the noise. I know a commenter on Flickr did.

01-20-2014, 08:14 AM	#13
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Wired yea, it was a missed shot for sure. I'm surprised no one sees the noise. I know a commenter on Flickr did. Well then, if he saw it then it must be true... time to sell your camera and upgrade to the next very best . Jokes aside though, unless I am going blind, I fail to see the noise... in that specific photo. I hope people don't confuse the "noise" with the dark spots on the tarmac... that's normal and is not noise... unless you wanna say is road noise... !?

01-20-2014, 08:18 AM	#14
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Originally posted by mrNewt Well then, if he saw it then it must be true... time to sell your camera and upgrade to the next very best . Jokes aside though, unless I am going blind, I fail to see the noise... in that specific photo. I hope people don't confuse the "noise" with the dark spots on the tarmac... that's normal and is not noise... unless you wanna say is road noise... !? I'd say the jacket is the best place to bring the photo to 1:1 and see what I'm talking about. Maybe I'm too pickey. I'm not a pixel peeper, but when I zoom in to do some post processing work (ie get rid of chromatic) it irritates me how noisy it is. Of course the image looks fine scaled down for web or printed even upto a 36" print

01-20-2014, 08:25 AM	#15
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Wired I'd say the jacket is the best place to bring the photo to 1:1 and see what I'm talking about. Maybe I'm too pickey. I'm not a pixel peeper, but when I zoom in to do some post processing work (ie get rid of chromatic) it irritates me how noisy it is. Of course the image looks fine scaled down for web or printed even upto a 36" print . I think that is the "issue" and "solution" of your question . Any pictures in those conditions will give you a small, faint grain. Even at ISO 100, on any camera you will have a very small faint of grain (especially when you zoom in) on unprocessed pictures - is normal. However, for ISO 800 the amount of noise is so small I think is negligible. It is slightly more visible on the jacket because of the light conditions (sort of back-lit) and the color of the jacket (or rather lack of it). I would be more concerned on that CA that you are talking about