Fujifilm teases upcoming SLR-style X system camera

**Eric Auer** · 01-20-2014, 11:53 AM

Fujifilm teases upcoming SLR-style X system camera: Digital Photography Review

mrNewt · 01-20-2014, 12:01 PM - **1 Like**

uuuuuuu.... sexy...

Wired · 01-20-2014, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by mrNewt

uuuuuuu.... sexy...

I agree.

I can't help but wonder if this is more along the lines of what Nikon wanted to do with the DF, but with a FF sensor.

I may... just may get rid of my OMD Em5 for this. It's ultra sexy, love the control layout... how do you adjust aperture? if its from a barrel dial I'm in there like a dirty shirt on laundry day.

I didn't think I was a hipster.... guess I am if I'm buying into this retro stuff....

mrNewt · 01-20-2014, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by Wired

I agree.

I can't help but wonder if this is more along the lines of what Nikon wanted to do with the DF, but with a FF sensor.

I may... just may get rid of my OMD Em5 for this. It's ultra sexy, love the control layout... how do you adjust aperture? if its from a barrel dial I'm in there like a dirty shirt on laundry day.

I didn't think I was a hipster.... guess I am if I'm buying into this retro stuff....

I see a dial right under the shutter button... maybe that will for the aperture!? Or maybe you can customize it and assign the aperture control to it.
I love its look that is for sure... not sure I will actually get one, but if I were on the market for a new camera right now... I will most probably consider it...

Wired · 01-20-2014, 12:47 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mrNewt

I see a dial right under the shutter button... maybe that will for the aperture!? Or maybe you can customize it and assign the aperture control to it.
I love its look that is for sure... not sure I will actually get one, but if I were on the market for a new camera right now... I will most probably consider it...

correction, Fuji lenses have Aperture rings!!!

there is also this:

Fujinon Lens XF56mmF1.2 R | Fujfilm Canada

omg I need that

but if someone thinks Pentax has gaps in the lens lineup... just go look at Fuji.

mrNewt · 01-20-2014, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Wired

correction, Fuji lenses have Aperture rings!!!

there is also this:

Fujinon Lens XF56mmF1.2 R | Fujfilm Canada

omg I need that

... darn it... you are right.
Completly missed the aperture dial in the picture (1.4, 2, 2.8 ... ).

Wired · 01-20-2014, 12:55 PM

We're both broke now aren't we?

Kunzite · 01-20-2014, 12:59 PM

Some of their lenses don't have aperture rings.

mrNewt · 01-20-2014, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Wired

We're both broke now aren't we?

... yep ...

tuco · 01-20-2014, 01:27 PM

Two things they better have fixed after all this time. A locking EV dial and a button-free area to place your RH thumb. On the XP1, the Q-button was right in the way and I was constantly pushing it. Their lens selection is getting sweeter all the time.

Wired · 01-20-2014, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Some of their lenses don't have aperture rings.

The three lenses I would be interested in owning do (35 1.4, 56 1.2, 23 1.4). The whole system looks interesting... looks like you set aperture priority by setting shutter to A and iso an A modes. Or you can put iso in A and set your shutter and aperture. It's a fantastic control scheme. Looks like the X-Pro1 uses the same control scheme and it also looks like I need to look more heavily into this system than the m4/3 system.

tuco · 01-20-2014, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Wired

...Looks like the X-Pro1 uses the same control scheme and it also looks like I need to look more heavily into this system than the m4/3 system.

Auto ISO on the XP1 was controlled via the menu and only recently, by a firmware update, did you get to define the minimum shutter speed. Before the camera picked it for you automagically based on the focal length. The 18-55mm has image stabilization and a convenient lens with good results for when you only want to carry one lens.

Wired · 01-20-2014, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by tuco

Auto ISO on the XP1 was controlled via the menu and only recently, by a firmware update, did you get to define the minimum shutter speed. Before the camera picked it for you automagically based on the focal length.

interesting. thank you for that.

Not a feature I use (on any system), I'm just making assumptions based on the control layout and it looks like a very interesting setup. This new camera in fact reminds me of the layout of my LX.

tuco · 01-20-2014, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Wired

interesting. thank you for that.

Not a feature I use (on any system), I'm just making assumptions based on the control layout and it looks like a very interesting setup. This new camera in fact reminds me of the layout of my LX.

You will want to hold one in a store and get a feel for it. As big as the XP1 was for a mirrorless, it did not have a good grip. A least for man-size hands. The retro rangefinder design, IMHO, did not translate well to the digital era because of all the buttons and controls on the back film cameras did not have. Even stuffing a wad of paper between the leather case and the camera to form a "bulge" on the RH side made a big difference holding it for me.

Wired · 01-20-2014, 02:26 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by tuco

You will want to hold one in a store and get a feel for it. As big as the XP1 was for a mirrorless, it did not have a good grip. A least for man-size hands. The retro rangefinder design, IMHO, did not translate well to the digital era because of all the buttons and controls on the back film cameras did not have. Even stuffing a wad of paper between the leather case and the camera to form a "bulge" on the RH side made a big difference holding it for me.

Yea, the Xpro1 is not a comfortable camera. I can tell just from the viewfinder position I wouldn't like it. (I never liked using rangefinger style cameras). Moving the finder to a standard location is whats making me jump for this. The big question is how big is it? If it's OMD EM5 size, then we got a ball game.

Originally posted by twitch

Specs read a bit like a camera I already own, except my camera is k mount. Seems mirror less cameras are morphing into the cameras they are meant to be making dinosaurs.

yes, I agree with this statement, in fact the camera I already own has a spec sheet that is better and also was less expensive than the anticipated launch price. The value for feature/performance here is no where near as good as Pentax. Even when it comes to m4/3 cameras like the OMD series the K3 is still standing tall as the best value for the money. I find the most interesting thing about this camera and the OMD series is the size, EVF, and the amazing primes.

As much as I love my Pentax Limited glass, the Panasonic Leica 25mm f1.4 and EM5 is a bloody awesome combo that dare I say rivals my Pentax kit. Now, if I could get something of that optical quality, in a similar size, but with more manual control setup (like on an MX, LX...) sounds like a winner to me. It's just bloody pricey...

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01-20-2014, 12:01 PM - 1 Like	#2
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	uuuuuuu.... sexy...

01-20-2014, 12:24 PM	#3
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Originally posted by mrNewt uuuuuuu.... sexy... I agree. I can't help but wonder if this is more along the lines of what Nikon wanted to do with the DF, but with a FF sensor. I may... just may get rid of my OMD Em5 for this. It's ultra sexy, love the control layout... how do you adjust aperture? if its from a barrel dial I'm in there like a dirty shirt on laundry day. I didn't think I was a hipster.... guess I am if I'm buying into this retro stuff....

01-20-2014, 12:35 PM	#4
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Wired I agree. I can't help but wonder if this is more along the lines of what Nikon wanted to do with the DF, but with a FF sensor. I may... just may get rid of my OMD Em5 for this. It's ultra sexy, love the control layout... how do you adjust aperture? if its from a barrel dial I'm in there like a dirty shirt on laundry day. I didn't think I was a hipster.... guess I am if I'm buying into this retro stuff.... I see a dial right under the shutter button... maybe that will for the aperture!? Or maybe you can customize it and assign the aperture control to it. I love its look that is for sure... not sure I will actually get one, but if I were on the market for a new camera right now... I will most probably consider it...

01-20-2014, 12:47 PM - 1 Like	#5
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Originally posted by mrNewt I see a dial right under the shutter button... maybe that will for the aperture!? Or maybe you can customize it and assign the aperture control to it. I love its look that is for sure... not sure I will actually get one, but if I were on the market for a new camera right now... I will most probably consider it... correction, Fuji lenses have Aperture rings!!! there is also this: Fujinon Lens XF56mmF1.2 R \| Fujfilm Canada omg I need that but if someone thinks Pentax has gaps in the lens lineup... just go look at Fuji.

01-20-2014, 12:50 PM	#6
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Wired correction, Fuji lenses have Aperture rings!!! there is also this: Fujinon Lens XF56mmF1.2 R \| Fujfilm Canada omg I need that ... darn it... you are right. Completly missed the aperture dial in the picture (1.4, 2, 2.8 ... ).

01-20-2014, 12:55 PM	#7
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	We're both broke now aren't we?

01-20-2014, 12:59 PM	#8
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Some of their lenses don't have aperture rings.

01-20-2014, 01:22 PM	#9
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Wired We're both broke now aren't we? ... yep ...

01-20-2014, 01:27 PM	#10
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,026	Two things they better have fixed after all this time. A locking EV dial and a button-free area to place your RH thumb. On the XP1, the Q-button was right in the way and I was constantly pushing it. Their lens selection is getting sweeter all the time.

01-20-2014, 01:40 PM	#11
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Originally posted by Kunzite Some of their lenses don't have aperture rings. The three lenses I would be interested in owning do (35 1.4, 56 1.2, 23 1.4). The whole system looks interesting... looks like you set aperture priority by setting shutter to A and iso an A modes. Or you can put iso in A and set your shutter and aperture. It's a fantastic control scheme. Looks like the X-Pro1 uses the same control scheme and it also looks like I need to look more heavily into this system than the m4/3 system.

01-20-2014, 02:01 PM	#12
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,026	Originally posted by Wired ...Looks like the X-Pro1 uses the same control scheme and it also looks like I need to look more heavily into this system than the m4/3 system. Auto ISO on the XP1 was controlled via the menu and only recently, by a firmware update, did you get to define the minimum shutter speed. Before the camera picked it for you automagically based on the focal length. The 18-55mm has image stabilization and a convenient lens with good results for when you only want to carry one lens.

01-20-2014, 02:03 PM	#13
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Originally posted by tuco Auto ISO on the XP1 was controlled via the menu and only recently, by a firmware update, did you get to define the minimum shutter speed. Before the camera picked it for you automagically based on the focal length. interesting. thank you for that. Not a feature I use (on any system), I'm just making assumptions based on the control layout and it looks like a very interesting setup. This new camera in fact reminds me of the layout of my LX.

01-20-2014, 02:22 PM	#14
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,026	Originally posted by Wired interesting. thank you for that. Not a feature I use (on any system), I'm just making assumptions based on the control layout and it looks like a very interesting setup. This new camera in fact reminds me of the layout of my LX. You will want to hold one in a store and get a feel for it. As big as the XP1 was for a mirrorless, it did not have a good grip. A least for man-size hands. The retro rangefinder design, IMHO, did not translate well to the digital era because of all the buttons and controls on the back film cameras did not have. Even stuffing a wad of paper between the leather case and the camera to form a "bulge" on the RH side made a big difference holding it for me.

01-20-2014, 02:26 PM - 1 Like	#15
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Originally posted by tuco You will want to hold one in a store and get a feel for it. As big as the XP1 was for a mirrorless, it did not have a good grip. A least for man-size hands. The retro rangefinder design, IMHO, did not translate well to the digital era because of all the buttons and controls on the back film cameras did not have. Even stuffing a wad of paper between the leather case and the camera to form a "bulge" on the RH side made a big difference holding it for me. Yea, the Xpro1 is not a comfortable camera. I can tell just from the viewfinder position I wouldn't like it. (I never liked using rangefinger style cameras). Moving the finder to a standard location is whats making me jump for this. The big question is how big is it? If it's OMD EM5 size, then we got a ball game. Originally posted by twitch Specs read a bit like a camera I already own, except my camera is k mount. Seems mirror less cameras are morphing into the cameras they are meant to be making dinosaurs. yes, I agree with this statement, in fact the camera I already own has a spec sheet that is better and also was less expensive than the anticipated launch price. The value for feature/performance here is no where near as good as Pentax. Even when it comes to m4/3 cameras like the OMD series the K3 is still standing tall as the best value for the money. I find the most interesting thing about this camera and the OMD series is the size, EVF, and the amazing primes. As much as I love my Pentax Limited glass, the Panasonic Leica 25mm f1.4 and EM5 is a bloody awesome combo that dare I say rivals my Pentax kit. Now, if I could get something of that optical quality, in a similar size, but with more manual control setup (like on an MX, LX...) sounds like a winner to me. It's just bloody pricey...