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Wired · 01-23-2014, 10:36 AM

The Fstoppers Nikon DF Camera Hipster Review | Fstoppers

perfect.

I still wouldn't mind one in my stable.

jogiba · 01-23-2014, 10:45 AM

The DF does video ?

Wired · 01-23-2014, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

The DF does video ?

it's a "video review" instead of a text review.

tuco · 01-23-2014, 11:00 AM

Yeah, pretty funny. Interesting what the general public thinks. I call conventional DSLRs the Darth Vader look. And why, pray tell, is that normal and something with dials is "retro", I wonder. And the assumption it is only for the hip completely misses the fact how many other cameras can you take out for walking around and get as good of high ISO performance in low, evening light, I wonder again.

Last edited by tuco; 01-23-2014 at 11:27 AM. Reason: Spelling

Wired · 01-23-2014, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by tuco

Yeah, pretty funny. Interesting what the general public thinks. I call convention DSLRs the Darth Vader look. And why, pray tell, is that normal and something with dials is "retro", I wonder. And the assumption it is only for the hip completely misses the fact how many other cameras can you take out for walking around and get as good of high ISO performance in low, evening light, I wonder again.

yes, that sensor is the main attraction for me, as it should be for many photographer for that camera. Not for the looks.

jogiba · 01-23-2014, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Wired

yes, that sensor is the main attraction for me, as it should be for many photographer for that camera. Not for the looks.

I just compared the 16mp DF vs my low buck 16mp Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso and it does not look that much better IMHO.

Nikon DF vs Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso

Wired · 01-23-2014, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

I just compared the 16mp DF vs my low buck 16mp Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso and it does not look that much better IMHO.

Nikon DF vs Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso

I like the image on the left, the image on the right looks softer. Could also be lens that's affecting it too.

AquaDome · 01-23-2014, 11:34 AM

Its a Nikon with a tin-foil hat.

Wired · 01-23-2014, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by AquaDome

Its a Nikon with a tin-foil hat.

keeps the aliens away!

tuco · 01-23-2014, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

I just compared the 16mp DF vs my low buck 16mp Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso and it does not look that much better IMHO.

Nikon DF vs Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso

Interesting the difference is insignificant to you here but that A7r vs D800e review you posted by some guy was a significant difference to you when his test was only a noise test.

Edit: 2EV more of DR between IS0 800 and ISO 1600 is insignificant to you?

**crewl1** · 01-23-2014, 12:42 PM

Funny video but basically one joke stretched out to 20 minutes.
Could have been done in 1/4th the time.
I guess since it is re. df you have to do it slower?

Na Horuk · 01-23-2014, 01:43 PM

lol wait, the lens that comes with the Df has a fake aperture ring, that doesn't actually do anything? Now THAT is funny
But yeah, the review part is actually not bad. The fact that some settings have mechanical dials and can also be changed digitally.. but will then the mechanical dial will show the wrong number.. thats just really.. ugh.. seems like a sloppy job.. like something a cheap knock-off, let's call it "Mikon", would do
I can't believe people complained about the looks of the K-01 and even the K-30.. at least those were functional

jogiba · 01-23-2014, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by tuco

Interesting the difference is insignificant to you here but that A7r vs D800e review you posted by some guy was a significant difference to you when his test was only a noise test.

Edit: 2EV more of DR between IS0 800 and ISO 1600 is insignificant to you?

The DF body cost $2,746.95 at B&H :
Nikon Df DSLR Camera (Black) 1525 B&H Photo Video

The Sony NEX-3N with 16-50mm PZ OSS lens cost $349 at B&H :
Sony Alpha NEX-3N Mirrorless Digital Camera NEX3NL/B B&H Photo

BTW what A7r vs D800e test are you talking about ?

tuco · 01-23-2014, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Na Horuk

lol wait, the lens that comes with the Df has a fake aperture ring, that doesn't actually do anything?

No, it doesn't. It has a silver band is all; otherwise, it is their regular 50/1.8G lens.

tuco · 01-23-2014, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

The DF body cost $2,746.95 at B&H :
Nikon Df DSLR Camera (Black) 1525 B&H Photo Video

The Sony NEX-3N with 16-50mm PZ OSS lens cost $349 at B&H :
Sony Alpha NEX-3N Mirrorless Digital Camera NEX3NL/B B&H Photo

BTW what A7r vs D800e test are you talking about ?

It's not about best band-for-your-buck argument. If you want to include that attribute you need to assess what value things like faster auto focus with high end lenses like their 70-200/2.8 mean to you ( if you happen to want to shoot some action for example). And I believe that makes the Df is a more versatile camera in terms of photographic scope if that is any value at all.

Somewhere about a week ago you posted it. I don't remember exactly where.

01-23-2014, 10:36 AM	#1
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	best Nikon Df video review yet! The Fstoppers Nikon DF Camera Hipster Review \| Fstoppers perfect. I still wouldn't mind one in my stable.

01-23-2014, 12:02 PM	#10
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,033	Originally posted by jogiba I just compared the 16mp DF vs my low buck 16mp Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso and it does not look that much better IMHO. Nikon DF vs Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso Interesting the difference is insignificant to you here but that A7r vs D800e review you posted by some guy was a significant difference to you when his test was only a noise test. Edit: 2EV more of DR between IS0 800 and ISO 1600 is insignificant to you? Last edited by tuco; 01-23-2014 at 01:17 PM. Reason: More Info

01-23-2014, 01:43 PM	#12
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	lol wait, the lens that comes with the Df has a fake aperture ring, that doesn't actually do anything? Now THAT is funny But yeah, the review part is actually not bad. The fact that some settings have mechanical dials and can also be changed digitally.. but will then the mechanical dial will show the wrong number.. thats just really.. ugh.. seems like a sloppy job.. like something a cheap knock-off, let's call it "Mikon", would do I can't believe people complained about the looks of the K-01 and even the K-30.. at least those were functional Last edited by Na Horuk; 01-23-2014 at 01:54 PM.

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01-23-2014, 10:45 AM	#2
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	The DF does video ?

01-23-2014, 10:47 AM	#3
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Originally posted by jogiba The DF does video ? it's a "video review" instead of a text review.

01-23-2014, 11:00 AM	#4
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,033	Yeah, pretty funny. Interesting what the general public thinks. I call conventional DSLRs the Darth Vader look. And why, pray tell, is that normal and something with dials is "retro", I wonder. And the assumption it is only for the hip completely misses the fact how many other cameras can you take out for walking around and get as good of high ISO performance in low, evening light, I wonder again. Last edited by tuco; 01-23-2014 at 11:27 AM. Reason: Spelling

01-23-2014, 11:07 AM	#5
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Originally posted by tuco Yeah, pretty funny. Interesting what the general public thinks. I call convention DSLRs the Darth Vader look. And why, pray tell, is that normal and something with dials is "retro", I wonder. And the assumption it is only for the hip completely misses the fact how many other cameras can you take out for walking around and get as good of high ISO performance in low, evening light, I wonder again. yes, that sensor is the main attraction for me, as it should be for many photographer for that camera. Not for the looks.

01-23-2014, 11:30 AM	#6
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Wired yes, that sensor is the main attraction for me, as it should be for many photographer for that camera. Not for the looks. I just compared the 16mp DF vs my low buck 16mp Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso and it does not look that much better IMHO. Nikon DF vs Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso

01-23-2014, 11:31 AM	#7
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Originally posted by jogiba I just compared the 16mp DF vs my low buck 16mp Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso and it does not look that much better IMHO. Nikon DF vs Sony NEX-3N @ 6400 iso I like the image on the left, the image on the right looks softer. Could also be lens that's affecting it too.

01-23-2014, 11:34 AM	#8
AquaDome Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New Carlisle, IN Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,475	Its a Nikon with a tin-foil hat.

01-23-2014, 11:46 AM	#9
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Originally posted by AquaDome Its a Nikon with a tin-foil hat. keeps the aliens away!

01-23-2014, 12:42 PM	#11
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Funny video but basically one joke stretched out to 20 minutes. Could have been done in 1/4th the time. I guess since it is re. df you have to do it slower?

01-23-2014, 01:54 PM	#13
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by tuco Interesting the difference is insignificant to you here but that A7r vs D800e review you posted by some guy was a significant difference to you when his test was only a noise test. Edit: 2EV more of DR between IS0 800 and ISO 1600 is insignificant to you? The DF body cost $2,746.95 at B&H : Nikon Df DSLR Camera (Black) 1525 B&H Photo Video The Sony NEX-3N with 16-50mm PZ OSS lens cost $349 at B&H : Sony Alpha NEX-3N Mirrorless Digital Camera NEX3NL/B B&H Photo BTW what A7r vs D800e test are you talking about ?

01-23-2014, 01:58 PM	#14
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,033	Originally posted by Na Horuk lol wait, the lens that comes with the Df has a fake aperture ring, that doesn't actually do anything? No, it doesn't. It has a silver band is all; otherwise, it is their regular 50/1.8G lens.

01-23-2014, 02:07 PM	#15
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,033	Originally posted by jogiba The DF body cost $2,746.95 at B&H : Nikon Df DSLR Camera (Black) 1525 B&H Photo Video The Sony NEX-3N with 16-50mm PZ OSS lens cost $349 at B&H : Sony Alpha NEX-3N Mirrorless Digital Camera NEX3NL/B B&H Photo BTW what A7r vs D800e test are you talking about ? It's not about best band-for-your-buck argument. If you want to include that attribute you need to assess what value things like faster auto focus with high end lenses like their 70-200/2.8 mean to you ( if you happen to want to shoot some action for example). And I believe that makes the Df is a more versatile camera in terms of photographic scope if that is any value at all. Somewhere about a week ago you posted it. I don't remember exactly where.

best Nikon Df video review yet!

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