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03-11-2014, 09:34 AM   #46
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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
The a6000 is the most popular camera on DPR today and no Canon cameras on the list.
Another interesting aspect of this chart is that only 2 of the 10 cameras shown are "dslr", and they are the 2 Nikons, 7100 and 5300.

This has been fairly typical for some time now. At this point, someone will write that the chart is meaningless. Taken in aggregate, there is a trend here, IMO. And change seems to be happening faster than anyone predicted.

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Another interesting aspect of this chart is that only 2 of the 10 cameras shown are "dslr", and they are the 2 Nikons, 7100 and 5300.

This has been fairly typical for some time now. At this point, someone will write that the chart is meaningless. Taken in aggregate, there is a trend here, IMO. And change seems to be happening faster than anyone predicted.
New cameras and new concepts are more interesting for curiosity sake, but that does not translate into anything meaningful. In the end, every family has or will have a DSLR.

It is like dads clicking and reading everything about new sports cars or boats, kids about newer computers and newer iPads, mums about new cosmetics ranges, etc, but most of it is just curiosity to kill time. When it comes to very crude reality, people choose more conservative and think long term. No one clicks for things we already know, posses and use well!

That is the only reason DSLR sales are still keeping the whole industry from collapsing into pieces. It is also why cameras in the middle-ground between smartphones and DSLRs that are suffering because people are using smartphones more and more. Any wonder that both Olympus and Fuji now style their mirrorless and prism-less cameras to look like DSLRs with a hump?

And market also confirms that picture: despite glowing interest in some new camera concepts, they are not selling as the mainstream, well proven concepts. Family wagons will always outsell sports cars, even if price difference isn't too big between them. Even if it's more difficult to drive family wagon sometimes, it still represents a significant value and performance.

So pray hard DSLRs continue to sell, because they are the driving force behind any trace of profitability of the whole industry. Kill DSLRs, and Olympus and Fuji will not triumph, but quite the contrary: the smartphones will eat us alive.

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New cameras and new concepts are more interesting for curiosity sake, but that does not translate into anything meaningful. In the end, every family has or will have a DSLR.

It is like dads clicking and reading everything about new sports cars or boats, kids about newer computers and newer iPads, mums about new cosmetics ranges, etc, but most of it is just curiosity to kill time. When it comes to reality, people choose more conservative and think long term. That is the only reason DSLR sales are still keeping the whole industry from collapsing into pieces. It is exactly that cameras in the middle-ground between smartphones and DSLRs that are suffering. Any wonder that both Olympus and Fuji now style their cameras to look like DSLRs?

And market also confirms that picture: despite glowing interest in some new camera concepts, they are not selling as the mainstream, well proven concepts. Family wagons will always outsell sports cars, even if price difference isn't too big.
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Some class of equipment will always be "consumer". There are consumer phones, cars, etc. but there are also more featured equipment too.

So any prognosis about "no more consumer DSLRs in 5 years" is a myopic vision, that holds one eye firmly closed. It presumes that — for some strange reason — DSLRs will all of a sudden stop evolving, and that the whole progress is now concentrated in the mirrorless arena. It is a boyish view of the world, in which boys grow into smart and strong Supermen, but girls remain dumb, grow dumb and limp and wait to be saved by muscled Supermen.

Yeah, right. Just wait the next Fotokina, to see such DSLRs from Nikon and Canon like we have sever seen them before. Never ever underestimate the so called cornered 800lb gorillas; when they have only one way out, everyone'd better to move away.

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I agree with EOSHD, but not with the dumb girl thing.
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There was a lot of concern when Sony renamed the Nex line to be Alphas, The concern being that might signal the end of a promising line of aps cameras. But if the A6000 is any indicator, Sony innovation is alive and well.

The 2nd major thing for me is it looks like Sony finally improved the Nex menu system - what a dismal mess that was.

The 3rd major thing for me is the AF sounds much improved. The cautionary notes about past extravagant "improved AF" for all makers is on target, but this time, it might actually be improved After all, with the K3, Pentax finally got it right.

I've got another theory about the reduced evf resolution. For them to bring in the A6000 for $800, then they would have to make some hardware cuts. Sounds to me like they made cuts in the best area. Or perhaps it was a power savings.
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