[jogiba]

Sony seems to have taken a page from four thirds play book by creating small, but quite slow lenses. I guess it is adequate for a kit lens, but I don't normally shoot with any lenses slower than f2.8 (other than my 55-300).

Whatever floats your boat, if you want a 24-70mm F2.8 or 70-200 F2.8 it's going to be big but there are many people out there that would be satisfied with the A6000 and 16-50mm PZ OSS kit zoom along with the 55-210mm OSS.

[Rondec]

Whatever floats your boat, if you want a 24-70mm F2.8 or 70-200 F2.8 it's going to be big but there are many people out there that would be satisfied with the A6000 and 16-50mm PZ OSS kit zoom along with the 55-210mm OSS.

Well, I shoot mainly with primes, but if I want flexibility, I am not satisfied with the image quality of a kit lens, even if it is small and I use the DA *16-50/50-135.

The easiest way to make lenses small is to make them slow. As for the OSS, that is in the body on Pentax, so all my lenses are stabilized anyway.

[jogiba]

Well, I shoot mainly with primes, but if I want flexibility, I am not satisfied with the image quality of a kit lens, even if it is small and I use the DA *16-50/50-135.

The easiest way to make lenses small is to make them slow. As for the OSS, that is in the body on Pentax, so all my lenses are stabilized anyway.

Could you use the smc Pentax FA 50mm F1.4 as a 36mm F1.0 ?

[Rondec]

Could you use the smc Pentax FA 50mm F1.4 as a 36mm F1.0 ?

No. .

[jogiba]

The a6000 is the most popular camera on DPR today and no Canon cameras on the list.

[RyanW]

The a6000 is the most popular camera on DPR today and no Canon cameras on the list.

Not sure if you've noticed, but DPR talks about camera of the week or the month and then the interest wanes. The newest and especially ones with dubious claims of worlds fastest… get the most play. Does first week popularity on DPRev mean anything in the market place?

Update: I looked at what DPRev says about the "The Most Popular" stat. "Interchangeable Lens Cameras receiving the most views in reviews and previews in the last 5 days."

Let's look at what the commoners use. I don't see Sony. The only non phone is a 3 or 4 year old model. Which as you say, has mostly the same technology as the T5.

[Jasvox]

Let's look at primes. Note the Leica is Full Frame and has a faster lens than the others and it's clearly smaller than the Sony. Of the three, the Leica has the biggest sensor the fastest aperture and the smallest diameter. The other engineers need to hit the books I'm afraid.

Compact Camera Meter

In any case, I'm not willing to suffer through Sony menus.

So now we are comparing Leica with NEX? $$$$$ versus $$. The Sony menus are sorted out in a matter of days shooting (newer generation bodies aren't really an issue anyway) and become second nature before you really realize it. I guess you really need to own one and use it for a while and realize the value/IQ/size to get it. Good thing no one is forcing you to buy one an there are plenty of other highways to go down.

Jason

[jpzk]

That is the old kit lens, here is the Sony A6000 with 16-50 (24-75mm FF eqiv) kit lens :

Is this lens on the A6000 an "equivalent" of the DA*16-50 ?

JP

[jogiba]

Is this lens on the A6000 an "equivalent" of the DA*16-50 ?

JP

The 16-50mm PZ OSS Sony lens is $298 on Amazon with a free NEX-3N camera.
Amazon.com: Sony NEX-3NL/B Compact Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera Kit (Black): SONY: Camera & Photo


The Pentax DA* 16-50mm is $1,050 for lens alone.
Amazon.com: Pentax SMC DA* Series 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL IF SDM Wide Angle Zoom Lens for Pentax Digital SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo

They both are 24-75mm full frame eqiv. but the Sony has Built-in image stabilization ,power zoom and F3.5-5.6 vs F2.8 aperture.

[jpzk]

The 16-50mm PZ OSS Sony lens is $298 on Amazon with a free NEX-3N camera.
Amazon.com: Sony NEX-3NL/B Compact Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera Kit (Black): SONY: Camera & Photo


The Pentax DA* 16-50mm is $1,050 for lens alone.
Amazon.com: Pentax SMC DA* Series 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL IF SDM Wide Angle Zoom Lens for Pentax Digital SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo

They both are 24-75mm full frame eqiv. but the Sony has Built-in image stabilization ,power zoom and F3.5-5.6 vs F2.8 aperture.

Thanks !
In terms of IQ ... I wonder if the Sony lens would be as good as the DA*16-50.

JP

[Jasvox]

Thanks !
In terms of IQ ... I wonder if the Sony lens would be as good as the DA*16-50.

JP

Nowhere close. The little Sony is a decent lens,. but not in the same league as the Pentax 16-50*. Then again, I dont recall any news of AF failure in the little Sony pancake zoom. Personally, I like the 16-50PZ for the size alone and the IQ is manageable, but not as good as the 18-55 Sony....the other Kit lens.

Jason

[Rondec]

Thanks !
In terms of IQ ... I wonder if the Sony lens would be as good as the DA*16-50.

JP

The Sony is a kit lens with image stabilization. It is f3.5 to 5.6. It isn't a great lens and Sony relies on built in lens corrections in their cameras to deal with its flaws. The 16-50 is a lot faster lens and obviously much bigger as well.

[Jasvox]

I am wondering why Sony opted for an inferior EVF for the a6000 over that of the NEX-6 and 7? After having used the 2.4M EVF for my NEX-5n, I am wondering how the 1.4M EVF will look. Seems like a strange place to cut corners.

Jason

[jogiba]

Go to 4:00 of the video:

Youtu.be

Youtu.be

[Jasvox]

Ok. If he says so. Still, seems a step in a weird direction when they have the technology for the 2.4m and have been using it for years already.

Any idea if the audio levels are adjustable?

Jason