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Deedee · 04-06-2014, 01:35 PM

Live Stream: Watch Sony Announce the 4K Full-Frame 12MP A7s Live at NAB

Personally I don't care.

But this video is about to launch in 23 minutes as I type this.

Cheers!

Here is the direct link:
Sony NAB Press Conference 2014 on Livestream

Apapukas · 04-06-2014, 02:00 PM

"Sony is telling the megapixel war to shove it"

Best thing I've heard from Sony!

Deedee · 04-06-2014, 02:01 PM

Well lets see... Its sunday and I have time. Its live now.

LFLee · 04-06-2014, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Apapukas

"Sony is telling the megapixel war to shove it"

Best thing I've heard from Sony!

I don't know... but I think 16MP is the least for new DSLR, and ideally I would like to have 24MP (for photo).

maybe they don't want to eat into sale of A7and A7r...

Last edited by LFLee; 04-06-2014 at 02:10 PM.

Apapukas · 04-06-2014, 02:32 PM

It all come down to priorities.

More cropping vs. better low light

jcdoss · 04-06-2014, 02:33 PM

I've choked and gagged my way through 30 mins of this crap, and still nothing about the A7s.

wombat2go · 04-06-2014, 02:38 PM

Looks like a major screw up.

only 2700 viewers anyway

vjacesslav · 04-06-2014, 02:56 PM

Any news about this camera. Quite curios what FF sensor is inside...

Deedee · 04-06-2014, 03:00 PM

Guys 400,000 ISO 0_0 WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAT!

With 4K video.

---------- Post added 04-07-14 at 12:03 AM ----------

Originally posted by jcdoss

I've choked and gagged my way through 30 mins of this crap, and still nothing about the A7s.

I second this, there was a lot of BS and the camera preview lasted only few seconds. But 4K video and 50-400000 ISO range is something.

LFLee · 04-06-2014, 03:03 PM

they did announce the camera! at the very end of the presentation.

A7s it is... with 4k, but I don't think I hear the guy mention anything about MP (maybe I missed) ....
But I think I hear it is A-mount......that's confusing!

video archive here: http://new.livestream.com/SonyProfessional/NAB2014/videos/47341386

A7s start at 11:30.

Deedee · 04-06-2014, 03:07 PM

No you did not miss it - They did not mention it - So the same camera with 4K video. With amplified ISO. I am not very excited at all. Oh well an hour gone.

So much Sony pre-scripted video presentations and you could really feel almost all the presenters were camera nervous

Not all but atleast who were put on camera on live tv were.

JimmyDranox · 04-06-2014, 03:09 PM

IR has already a presentation of that camera. Interesting, 4K video only connected to an external device. But 12 Mp on an FF chip, could be a charm for astrophotographers. If,.... but we will see.

LFLee · 04-06-2014, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Deedee

No you did not miss it - They did not mention it - So the same camera with 4K video. With amplified ISO. I am not very excited at all. Oh well an hour gone.

So much Sony pre-scripted video presentations and you could really feel almost all the presenters were camera nervous

Not all but atleast who were put on camera on live tv were.

just re-watch the presentation, they didn't mention anything about MP.
and they said it is Alpha-mount, which include both E and A mount.

409k iso.... wow. starry night shot will be incredible....

richandfleur · 04-06-2014, 07:22 PM

Basically these huge ISO figures should mean and extended actual suitable for use ISO range. That's pretty impressive if it's safe to use up to say and ISO of 50,000 etc.
It's a bit like 'digital zoom' on a camcorder, where you can technically make those figures huge, but it's pointless in practise.

I'd love to see Pentax enter this if they have a good partnership with Sony for sensors etc. I would be nice to see Pentax feature for video also, more than just people using legacy Pentax glass on someone elses bodies.

carrrlangas · 04-06-2014, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by richandfleur

Basically these huge ISO figures should mean and extended actual suitable for use ISO range.

I don´t understand why would an enthusiast or Professional use ISO values that are not achieved by hardware. Most Sensors native range goes from ISO100 to ISO1600 (through hardware amplification), after that it´s all software amplified. If shooting RAW, as most enthusiast and professionals, why would I let the camera do the post processing for higher than native ISO values rather than do it in my workflow as the rest of adjustments?
What I get out of the big numbers is that the Dynamic range will be better at high (native) ISO (as in ISO 400 - 800 - 1600)

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04-06-2014, 02:00 PM	#2
Apapukas Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Lietuva, Vilnius Posts: 627	"Sony is telling the megapixel war to shove it" Best thing I've heard from Sony!

04-06-2014, 02:01 PM	#3
Deedee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 307 Original Poster	Well lets see... Its sunday and I have time. Its live now.

04-06-2014, 02:04 PM	#4
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Originally posted by Apapukas "Sony is telling the megapixel war to shove it" Best thing I've heard from Sony! I don't know... but I think 16MP is the least for new DSLR, and ideally I would like to have 24MP (for photo). maybe they don't want to eat into sale of A7and A7r... Last edited by LFLee; 04-06-2014 at 02:10 PM.

04-06-2014, 02:32 PM	#5
Apapukas Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Lietuva, Vilnius Posts: 627	It all come down to priorities. More cropping vs. better low light

04-06-2014, 02:33 PM	#6
jcdoss Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ingelheim am Rhein, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,801	I've choked and gagged my way through 30 mins of this crap, and still nothing about the A7s.

04-06-2014, 02:38 PM	#7
wombat2go Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Looks like a major screw up. only 2700 viewers anyway

04-06-2014, 02:56 PM	#8
vjacesslav Marketplace Reseller Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Košice, Czechoslovakia, Europe Union Photos: Gallery Posts: 366	Any news about this camera. Quite curios what FF sensor is inside...

04-06-2014, 03:00 PM	#9
Deedee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 307 Original Poster	Guys 400,000 ISO 0_0 WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAT! With 4K video. ---------- Post added 04-07-14 at 12:03 AM ---------- Originally posted by jcdoss I've choked and gagged my way through 30 mins of this crap, and still nothing about the A7s. I second this, there was a lot of BS and the camera preview lasted only few seconds. But 4K video and 50-400000 ISO range is something.

04-06-2014, 03:03 PM	#10
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	they did announce the camera! at the very end of the presentation. A7s it is... with 4k, but I don't think I hear the guy mention anything about MP (maybe I missed) .... But I think I hear it is A-mount......that's confusing! video archive here: http://new.livestream.com/SonyProfessional/NAB2014/videos/47341386 A7s start at 11:30.

04-06-2014, 03:07 PM	#11
Deedee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 307 Original Poster	No you did not miss it - They did not mention it - So the same camera with 4K video. With amplified ISO. I am not very excited at all. Oh well an hour gone. So much Sony pre-scripted video presentations and you could really feel almost all the presenters were camera nervous Not all but atleast who were put on camera on live tv were.

04-06-2014, 03:09 PM	#12
JimmyDranox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ploiesti, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,632	IR has already a presentation of that camera. Interesting, 4K video only connected to an external device. But 12 Mp on an FF chip, could be a charm for astrophotographers. If,.... but we will see.

04-06-2014, 03:14 PM	#13
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Originally posted by Deedee No you did not miss it - They did not mention it - So the same camera with 4K video. With amplified ISO. I am not very excited at all. Oh well an hour gone. So much Sony pre-scripted video presentations and you could really feel almost all the presenters were camera nervous Not all but atleast who were put on camera on live tv were. just re-watch the presentation, they didn't mention anything about MP. and they said it is Alpha-mount, which include both E and A mount. 409k iso.... wow. starry night shot will be incredible....

04-06-2014, 07:22 PM	#14
richandfleur Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand Photos: Albums Posts: 1,788	Basically these huge ISO figures should mean and extended actual suitable for use ISO range. That's pretty impressive if it's safe to use up to say and ISO of 50,000 etc. It's a bit like 'digital zoom' on a camcorder, where you can technically make those figures huge, but it's pointless in practise. I'd love to see Pentax enter this if they have a good partnership with Sony for sensors etc. I would be nice to see Pentax feature for video also, more than just people using legacy Pentax glass on someone elses bodies.

04-06-2014, 08:00 PM	#15
carrrlangas Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Joensuu (Finland) Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,761	Originally posted by richandfleur Basically these huge ISO figures should mean and extended actual suitable for use ISO range. I don´t understand why would an enthusiast or Professional use ISO values that are not achieved by hardware. Most Sensors native range goes from ISO100 to ISO1600 (through hardware amplification), after that it´s all software amplified. If shooting RAW, as most enthusiast and professionals, why would I let the camera do the post processing for higher than native ISO values rather than do it in my workflow as the rest of adjustments? What I get out of the big numbers is that the Dynamic range will be better at high (native) ISO (as in ISO 400 - 800 - 1600)

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