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05-27-2014, 09:27 AM   #1
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Fastest Mirrorless AF versus D4s - surprise!!!

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This youtube video was created by the "Camera Store" and compares mirrorless from Panasonic, Sony, Fuji, and Olympus with Nikon D4s.


There's already a thread on it on dpreview, but i thought it would be fun to discuss it here also.But

I won't ruin the surprise of watching the video so i'll skip the results. If this is already been posted, mod feel free to delete this.

The implications of this general achievement is how fast mirrorless are Improving. Predictions on this forum have often been "in 5 years, maybe" type. But its clear after watching this video, that mirrorless development is improving dramatically one model year to the next.

What's driving the mirrorless improvements - I suspect that its technology spinoff and competition from cell phone cams. On the other hand, Panasonic, Sony, Fuji and Olympus are all striving to take market share from Canikon. What are the camera brands least likely to be shown in American stores....well...Panasonic, Sony, Fuji, Olympus, Pentax - threw in the last myself :-))

Enjoy the video.

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Too bad they didn't have a the latest greatest most relevant camera when it comes to AF.......................... the V3 will waste all of these cameras including the D4S. 11 FPS is pretty lame when the the bar has been set to 20 FPS.

the v1 is faster then the D4.....period !: Nikon 1 System Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

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If there was some kind of metabones adapter for Pentax K mount (with AF and electronic contacts for data / aperture control) I´d go into mirrorless for a second body. Otherwise, I am really happy with the quality of my lenses and their automatisms. just not about the bulk and attention grabbing of a DSLR body.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JHD Quote
Too bad they didn't have a the latest greatest most relevant camera when it comes to AF.......................... the V3 will waste all of these cameras including the D4S. 11 FPS is pretty lame when the the bar has been set to 20 FPS.

the v1 is faster then the D4.....period !: Nikon 1 System Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
I am getting 30fps (8.3mp 3840x2160) out of my Panasonic GH4.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/76-non-pentax-cameras-canon-nikon-etc/247...ml#post2828394

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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
I am getting 30fps (8.3mp 3840x2160) out of my Panasonic GH4.
Yawn... The V1 (three years old) will catch 60 FPS raw at full resolution.
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Yawn... The V1 (three years old) will catch 60 FPS raw at full resolution.
The V1 is a joke compared to the GH4 and DPR gave the V1 a 69% rating.
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A shot in focus is much better than a high resolution shot of a missed opportunity. Enjoy your slow nothing.

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There is a fire sale on the V1 because the buffer holds only 30 shots or 1/2 second of 4K @60fps or one second @30fps compared to almost three hours on my GH4 @ 30fps with 128GB SDXC card.
Nikon 1 V1 Mirrorless Digital Camera w Nikkor 10 30mm Lens Black Refurbished 018208275045 | eBay

The GH4 is selling faster than Panasonic could ship them.
Amazon.com : Panasonic LUMIX DMC-GH4KBODY 16.05MP Digital Single Lens Mirrorless Camera with 4K Cinematic Video (Body Only) : Camera & Photo
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#1 You're comparing stills against video.
#2 Regardless the V3 is a 3 year old technology vs the GH4 - a current camera which costs $1700 almost 6X more money.
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#1 You're comparing stills against video.
#2 Regardless the V3 is a 3 year old technology vs the GH4 - a current camera which costs $1700 almost 6X more money.
You need to give it up on the Nikon V line since it's been a total disaster for Nikon.
Am I missing something here?: Digital Photography Review
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It's better to think than parrot! We're talking about the fastest AF and that's the best argument you can come up with?
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It's better to think than parrot! We're talking about the fastest AF and that's the best argument you can come up with?
Watch the video again.
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Come on, Joe. None of those cameras--not even the best one of the lot (D4S)--can do 20 FPS with AFC. Give it up already!
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Come on, Joe. None of those cameras--not even the best one of the lot (D4S)--can do 20 FPS with AFC. Give it up already!
It's good for soccer moms.

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We need to be sure to compare the same specs: just looked it up and the burst fps is 40 for the GH4 while the AFC is 7fps

For the Sony Nex 6, dpreview review (an older camera) has 3.4 fps continuous, but a 10.4 fps for "speed priority". Not sure how this matches up wtih the GH4.or the newer A6000

The difference in terminology of specs, is one reason why field testing, such as the above video is so useful.
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