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06-03-2014, 08:06 PM   #1
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Fuji MF fixed lens surprise??

Rumours say Fuji will release a MF 50MP cmos sensor(same as 645Z) with a fixed lens..in the next few months
if true & price is under $4000 then a real game changer,maybe the perfect landscape camera for us photo enthusiasts ,just hope the lens has a macro possibility as well..
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Would be great for you guys! For me, a Toy Camera shooter, I am hoping for an announcement of the new X30 very soon! It should be a real winner with a bigger sensor in the same or similar body as the X10/X20.

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It could depend a lot on the FL of the lens, I think.
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I doubt it will be the perfect landscape camera. With landscapes lens range varies but often a ultra wide is desired. And I don't see a fixed lens camera coming outfitted with a UWA lens. Also a $4K+ camera that only has one lens option will be a hard pill to swallow for many I suspect. But we'll see.

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wow, a fixed lens medium format camera - that is a really off the wall concept from Fuji...



Fuji, Meet the ermanox. A 645 (full frame) plate film camera with a focal plane shutter (speeds from 1/20th to 1/1000s) and an unusually fast fixed ernostar 85mm f/1.8 lens, not bad for 1924.

So Fuji here is your challenge, if you ever make a fixed lens MF camera make sure the lens is fast enough to be worth it, with a short flange focal distance it shouldn't be hard to make something interesting*. Sigma with their compact cameras completely missed the point of having a large foveon sensor compact camera, and crippling it by pairing it with a slow lens. Even the new quattro has a lousy 30mm f/2.8 lens, when SLR users get a 30mm f/1.4 lens that is two stops faster, WTF?

* A 75mm f/2 asph would be a good place to start with. The lens only has to cover a 33X44mm sensor. If they try to make a "compact MF camera" to appeal to the consumer demographic I will be ever so slightly annoyed that again, small size trumps photographic flexibility.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
wow, a fixed lens medium format camera - that is a really off the wall concept from Fuji...

So Fuji here is your challenge, if you ever make a fixed lens MF camera...
Pretty sure Fuji already has made a few fixed lens MF cameras... Actually, you can still buy them new from B&H
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Pretty sure Fuji already has made a few fixed lens MF cameras
They certainly have, I recall they also used to make folding ones. My point is: if they ever want their product to stand out from the others they had better put a decent fast lens on it - just having a bigger sensor isn't going to attract as much interest.

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They even rebadged them as Voitglander
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QuoteOriginally posted by nickthetasmaniac Quote
Pretty sure Fuji already has made a few fixed lens MF cameras... Actually, you can still buy them new from B&H
A few indeed: GW670, GF670, GF670W, GW690, GSW690, GW690 II, GW670 II, GSW690 II, GW690 III, GW680 III, GW670 III, GSW690 III, GSW680 III and may be more.




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They even rebadged them as Voigtländer
Voigtländer Bessa III and III W.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
A 75mm f/2 asph would be a good place to start with. The lens only has to cover a 33X44mm sensor. If they try to make a "compact MF camera" to appeal to the consumer demographic I will be ever so slightly annoyed that again, small size trumps photographic flexibility.
I doubt they would go that fast. I would expect they would go with a leaf shutter for several reasons.
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I doubt they would go that fast. I would expect they would go with a leaf shutter for several reasons.
And I doubt a fixed lens camera would come with a telephoto lens as your one and only lens.
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So how big/small will this camera be? Since its mirrorless, it should be significantly smaller than the Pentax 645z, right? No mirror, no pentaprism/Trapezoid prism, no AF mechanism.. but will it be larger than the K-50 or K-3 with grip?

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And I doubt a fixed lens camera would come with a telephoto lens as your one and only lens.
75mm on the MF sensor is not a "telephoto" My Contax 645 came with the 80mm F/2 as the standard lens. The Fujifilm GF670 Rangefinder come with a fixed 80mm f/3.5 Lens. It's not the ideal landscape lens, but its an excellent general purpose focal length for larger formats.
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75mm on the MF sensor is not a "telephoto"
Yes but the subject is a cropped 645 sensor on Fuji's MFD, no? Surely you see me posting my 6x7 format shots in the medium format thread? So I very familiar with what lenses for what purpose on that format.
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Would be great for you guys! For me, a Toy Camera shooter, I am hoping for an announcement of the new X30 very soon! It should be a real winner with a bigger sensor in the same or similar body as the X10/X20.

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had the X10 but returned due to orbville,but it was a nice cam..X30 looks promising..Fuji is on the right track I think
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