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skankin_giant · 09-11-2014, 07:30 AM

X30 hands on if anyone is interested.

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Cheers, Steve

Rupert · 09-11-2014, 06:56 PM

The X30 is just plain ugly to me. That grip is like it has been glued on as an afterthought, and the missing OVF is a huge loss for shooting in bright light or very low light.....So what's to like about the X30? Not a damn thing I can see. I wouldn't trade my X10 or X20 for a dozen of them.
That's my call on it.....for someone that would rather own a lesser camera than the X10 at a higher cost, it could be just the thing!

Regards!

skankin_giant · 09-12-2014, 02:31 AM

Well the Boss said I am a Idiot.... the only reason I fancied the X30 was for the extra video, she reminded me I had a video camera I never used.... so thats that idea knocked on the head...

Cheers, Steve

Rupert · 09-12-2014, 05:43 AM

Skank....Sometimes (often) the Boss knows best! Mrs Rupert said I could have the X-T1 in the new silver/black but did ask why I would want an X30 inferior to my X10/X20? She was pleased to hear I didn't.
I will contemplate the X-T1, but as a dedicated Toy Camera shooter, it's not really the camera I want...or need. Toy cameras get a ton of use, others sit on shelves and gather dust far too often around here. Got to be practical and reasonable, even if your greed tries to tell you otherwise.

Regards!

Rupert · 09-19-2014, 07:00 PM

Just read this over at DPR concerning the X30. The author spends a lot of time explaining why the X30 is not an advancement of any meaningful magnitude...then at the end he tries to make all the negatives vanish and the X30 look like a winner.
Opinion: Do we really need the Fuji X30?: Digital Photography Review

Good luck at that! The title of the article was "Do we really need the Fuji X30?"

Save your eyes and skip the article...I can answer that with one word...No!

I personally would rather have one X10 or X20 than a dozen X30 cameras. The X10 has the wonderful EXR sensor and both have a delightful OVF that works in any kind of light. Both are better looking, and both will save you cash while delivering equal or better IQ than the X30.

End of rant!

Regards!

Mr Bassie · 10-10-2014, 11:01 AM

I just bought an x30 from my local camera shop. Going to take it to a music festival this weekend. This is the first brand new camera I have bought in many years. It is smaller than my K-01 which used to be the smallest digital camera I own.

One setting I am excited to try is film simulation bracketing where it takes a shot and saves it as three different film simulation jpegs. Right now I have it set on velvia, classic chrome and monochrome.

skankin_giant · 10-10-2014, 11:17 AM

Please share the results.

Cheers, Steve

Rupert · 10-10-2014, 12:11 PM

Mr Bassie.....Sorry about my above rant, but it is my honest opinion. Otis can tell you (and will!) that my opinion is usually worth a bucket of warm spit...or less, so I expect you will find it a delightful camera to use.

I too look forward to seeing your results. If anyone can make the X30 shine, I know it will be you, all your work is excellent.

Regards!

skankin_giant · 10-10-2014, 12:51 PM

I'm hoping they bring Classic Chrome to the old models..... Wont be holding my breath!

Cheers, Steve

Rupert · 10-10-2014, 08:40 PM

Skank... I read somewhere that they would be doing a firmware update for all the X cameras to bring Classic Chrome.......I'd love to try it myself! What I've seen...I liked a lot!

Regards!

skankin_giant · 10-11-2014, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by Rupert

Skank... I read somewhere that they would be doing a firmware update for all the X cameras to bring Classic Chrome.......I'd love to try it myself! What I've seen...I liked a lot!

Regards!

Heres to hoping. From what I've heard the X-Pro 1 will only get lens compatibility updates. Love to be proven wrong!

Cheers, Steve

Rupert · 10-11-2014, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by skankin_giant

Heres to hoping.

You might like reading this, it is one of the best explanations of Fuji colors I have read and includes a nice analysis of Classic Chrome.
Fuji's Classic Chrome Film Simulation Brings the Magic of Kodachrome to the Digital Realm

Not being all that great a shooter, I often fail to take advantage of the various film setting on my X10/X20, but intend to spend more time experimenting. The bracketing allows this to be done with ease, and is a good place to start.
I still see the X10/X20 as amazing little cameras, with so many features and settings that you can hardly ever get tired of experimentation. All those and more seem to be on the X30, so Mr Bassie should have a fantastic time and provide us with some of his proven excellent capabilities!

Mr Bassie....If you will, give us your view of the EVF on the X30? I am hoping you find it fully capable for your needs? A report would answer a lot of questions.

Regards!

Mr Bassie · 10-13-2014, 10:48 AM

I took the X30 as my main camera to the Richmond Folk Festival last weekend. I used it under a variety of conditions, night, rain, indoors, and under cloudy skies. We didn't have much sun last weekend.

This is my first Fuji camera and I realized at one point that I can't process the raw files with my version of Lightroom, but that is okay because I really like the JPEGs it produces. I love the look of the classic chrome preset and the black and white with red filter preset as well.

I used a lot of film simulation bracketing to shoot those two presets. I switched the third film required at various points, but I wish it was possible to only bracket two film types instead of three.

Image quality is pretty good. If you are a pixel-peeper you should probably avoid this camera. At 100% it gets kind of nasty, but at normal viewing sizes the files look very nice. I expected this and it is not a big deal for me.

Autofocus was generally quick enough though it did occasionally miss. I used face detection most of the time and it was pretty reliable at showing a box around the face it found.

The EVF is very clear and nice. This is the first EVF I have ever used and I generally preferred using it instead of the LCD. But the articulated LCD was quite useful in certain situations such as shooting over crowds in front of me.

The camera is capable of shooting 12 FPS and I used that to shoot a breakdancing competition.

I also used the video mode and found it satisfactory for my purposes.

The noise at 3200 was definitely noticeable but I liked the look with black and white, but not so much in color.

Battery life was great and I never had any concerns about running out of power, even during the 12-hour long Saturday.

I did have a few memory card reading errors, which is concerning because I bought a brand new card to use with the camera. There was one occasion that the camera locked up completely and was totally unresponsive. I had to pull the battery to get things working again.

I uploaded a bunch of pics onto Flickr if you want a look.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21346550@N04/sets/72157648319401770

**clackers** · 10-13-2014, 12:29 PM

Looks like you had a fun time, Mr Bassie ... thanks for the pics and the type of field test review magazines should do more often, instead of copying and pasting from a press release! :-)

Mr Bassie · 10-13-2014, 05:19 PM

Classic Chrome JPEGS

Uke Teacher by DWO630, on
Flickr

---------- Post added 10-13-14 at 08:21 PM ----------

Originally posted by clackers

Looks like you had a fun time, Mr Bassie ... thanks for the pics and the type of field test review magazines should do more often, instead of copying and pasting from a press release! :-)

Thanks. It was a blast as it is every year. By far the best festival I have ever attended.

10-13-2014, 10:48 AM	#43
Mr Bassie Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,258	My report I took the X30 as my main camera to the Richmond Folk Festival last weekend. I used it under a variety of conditions, night, rain, indoors, and under cloudy skies. We didn't have much sun last weekend. This is my first Fuji camera and I realized at one point that I can't process the raw files with my version of Lightroom, but that is okay because I really like the JPEGs it produces. I love the look of the classic chrome preset and the black and white with red filter preset as well. I used a lot of film simulation bracketing to shoot those two presets. I switched the third film required at various points, but I wish it was possible to only bracket two film types instead of three. Image quality is pretty good. If you are a pixel-peeper you should probably avoid this camera. At 100% it gets kind of nasty, but at normal viewing sizes the files look very nice. I expected this and it is not a big deal for me. Autofocus was generally quick enough though it did occasionally miss. I used face detection most of the time and it was pretty reliable at showing a box around the face it found. The EVF is very clear and nice. This is the first EVF I have ever used and I generally preferred using it instead of the LCD. But the articulated LCD was quite useful in certain situations such as shooting over crowds in front of me. The camera is capable of shooting 12 FPS and I used that to shoot a breakdancing competition. I also used the video mode and found it satisfactory for my purposes. The noise at 3200 was definitely noticeable but I liked the look with black and white, but not so much in color. Battery life was great and I never had any concerns about running out of power, even during the 12-hour long Saturday. I did have a few memory card reading errors, which is concerning because I bought a brand new card to use with the camera. There was one occasion that the camera locked up completely and was totally unresponsive. I had to pull the battery to get things working again. I uploaded a bunch of pics onto Flickr if you want a look. https://www.flickr.com/photos/21346550@N04/sets/72157648319401770

10-13-2014, 05:19 PM	#45
Mr Bassie Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,258	Classic Chrome Classic Chrome JPEGS Uke Teacher by DWO630, on Flickr ---------- Post added 10-13-14 at 08:21 PM ---------- Originally posted by clackers Looks like you had a fun time, Mr Bassie ... thanks for the pics and the type of field test review magazines should do more often, instead of copying and pasting from a press release! :-) Thanks. It was a blast as it is every year. By far the best festival I have ever attended.

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09-11-2014, 06:56 PM	#32
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	The X30 is just plain ugly to me. That grip is like it has been glued on as an afterthought, and the missing OVF is a huge loss for shooting in bright light or very low light.....So what's to like about the X30? Not a damn thing I can see. I wouldn't trade my X10 or X20 for a dozen of them. That's my call on it.....for someone that would rather own a lesser camera than the X10 at a higher cost, it could be just the thing! Regards!

09-12-2014, 02:31 AM	#33
skankin_giant Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Deepest Darkest Cornwall Posts: 513	Well the Boss said I am a Idiot.... the only reason I fancied the X30 was for the extra video, she reminded me I had a video camera I never used.... so thats that idea knocked on the head... Cheers, Steve

09-12-2014, 05:43 AM	#34
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Skank....Sometimes (often) the Boss knows best! Mrs Rupert said I could have the X-T1 in the new silver/black but did ask why I would want an X30 inferior to my X10/X20? She was pleased to hear I didn't. I will contemplate the X-T1, but as a dedicated Toy Camera shooter, it's not really the camera I want...or need. Toy cameras get a ton of use, others sit on shelves and gather dust far too often around here. Got to be practical and reasonable, even if your greed tries to tell you otherwise. Regards!

09-19-2014, 07:00 PM	#35
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Just read this over at DPR concerning the X30. The author spends a lot of time explaining why the X30 is not an advancement of any meaningful magnitude...then at the end he tries to make all the negatives vanish and the X30 look like a winner. Opinion: Do we really need the Fuji X30?: Digital Photography Review Good luck at that! The title of the article was "Do we really need the Fuji X30?" Save your eyes and skip the article...I can answer that with one word...No! I personally would rather have one X10 or X20 than a dozen X30 cameras. The X10 has the wonderful EXR sensor and both have a delightful OVF that works in any kind of light. Both are better looking, and both will save you cash while delivering equal or better IQ than the X30. End of rant! Regards!

10-10-2014, 11:01 AM	#36
Mr Bassie Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,258	I just bought an x30 from my local camera shop. Going to take it to a music festival this weekend. This is the first brand new camera I have bought in many years. It is smaller than my K-01 which used to be the smallest digital camera I own. One setting I am excited to try is film simulation bracketing where it takes a shot and saves it as three different film simulation jpegs. Right now I have it set on velvia, classic chrome and monochrome.

10-10-2014, 11:17 AM	#37
skankin_giant Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Deepest Darkest Cornwall Posts: 513	Please share the results. Cheers, Steve

10-10-2014, 12:11 PM	#38
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Mr Bassie.....Sorry about my above rant, but it is my honest opinion. Otis can tell you (and will!) that my opinion is usually worth a bucket of warm spit...or less, so I expect you will find it a delightful camera to use. I too look forward to seeing your results. If anyone can make the X30 shine, I know it will be you, all your work is excellent. Regards!

10-10-2014, 12:51 PM	#39
skankin_giant Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Deepest Darkest Cornwall Posts: 513	I'm hoping they bring Classic Chrome to the old models..... Wont be holding my breath! Cheers, Steve

10-10-2014, 08:40 PM	#40
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Skank... I read somewhere that they would be doing a firmware update for all the X cameras to bring Classic Chrome.......I'd love to try it myself! What I've seen...I liked a lot! Regards!

10-11-2014, 12:58 AM	#41
skankin_giant Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Deepest Darkest Cornwall Posts: 513	Originally posted by Rupert Skank... I read somewhere that they would be doing a firmware update for all the X cameras to bring Classic Chrome.......I'd love to try it myself! What I've seen...I liked a lot! Regards! Heres to hoping. From what I've heard the X-Pro 1 will only get lens compatibility updates. Love to be proven wrong! Cheers, Steve

10-11-2014, 10:47 AM	#42
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Originally posted by skankin_giant Heres to hoping. You might like reading this, it is one of the best explanations of Fuji colors I have read and includes a nice analysis of Classic Chrome. Fuji's Classic Chrome Film Simulation Brings the Magic of Kodachrome to the Digital Realm Not being all that great a shooter, I often fail to take advantage of the various film setting on my X10/X20, but intend to spend more time experimenting. The bracketing allows this to be done with ease, and is a good place to start. I still see the X10/X20 as amazing little cameras, with so many features and settings that you can hardly ever get tired of experimentation. All those and more seem to be on the X30, so Mr Bassie should have a fantastic time and provide us with some of his proven excellent capabilities! Mr Bassie....If you will, give us your view of the EVF on the X30? I am hoping you find it fully capable for your needs? A report would answer a lot of questions. Regards!

10-13-2014, 12:29 PM	#44
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Looks like you had a fun time, Mr Bassie ... thanks for the pics and the type of field test review magazines should do more often, instead of copying and pasting from a press release! :-)

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