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11-07-2014, 04:30 AM   #1
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Help me decide: Too many Rokkors (28/2, 35/1.8, 58/1.2, ...)

Hi,

my collection of Minolta glass has grown a little larger than I'd like, I could use some help in deciding which to keep and which to sell.
I'm using my Minolta lenses both with film (usually on my black XD) and on my Fuji X-E1, with and without the Lens Turbo.
I'm already set on selling my 3 longest Minolta lenses (135/2.8, 200/4, 300/5.6), the 135 is too large & heavy (65x90mm, 535g) compared to the tiny 100/2.5 (64x66mm, 310g) and the others are too slow for my taste.


There are a few pairs where I just can't decide, maybe you can help me make up my mind:

MD W.Rokkor 28mm f/2.0 -VS- MC W.Rokkor-HH 35mm f/1.8:
Full res. pictures & center crops

Without Lens Turbo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaktuskontrafaktus/sets/72157649008232906/

With Lens Turbo (Effective 20mm f/1.4 -VS- 25mm f/1.3):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaktuskontrafaktus/sets/72157649074117695/


MC W.Rokkor 35mm f/1.8 (without Lens Turbo) -VS- MC Rokkor 58mm f/1.2 (with Lens Turbo, effective 41mm f/0.85):
Full res. pictures, focus on foreground center ("1" in front), bottom right corner ("2"), background center ("3") & upper left corner ("4")

https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaktuskontrafaktus/sets/72157648655432267/


MC Rokkor 58mm f/1.2 (without Lens Turbo) -VS- Vivitar Series 1 90mm f/2.5 (with Lens Turbo, effective 65mm f/1.8):
Full res. pictures

https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaktuskontrafaktus/sets/72157648665163670/


I'd like to get down the number to one go-to lens for each purpose (both on Film/FF and digital/APS-C):

Strong/Extreme wide angle:
Film (Pentax): Tokina 17/3.5
Film (Minolta): MD24/2.8
Fuji: (Fuji 14/2.8?)

Fast wide angle:
Film: 28/2, 35/1.8
Fuji: 28/2 + LT, 35/1.8 + LT

Normal:
Film: MC50/1.4, MD50/1.4, MC58/1.2
Fuji: MC35/1.8, MC50/1.4 + LT, MD50/1.4 + LT, MC58/1.2 + LT, (Fuji 35/1.4?)

Portrait / short tele:
Film (Minolta): MD100/2.5, Vivitar 90/2.5
Film (Canon): FDn 85/1.8
Fuji: MC58/1.2, Vivitar 90/2.5 + LT, FDn 85/1.8

Tele:
Film (Canon): FD200/2.8
Fuji: Vivitar 90/2.5, MD100/2.5, FD200/2.8, (Fuji 55-200/3.5-4.8?)

Macro:
Film (Minolta): Vivitar 90/2.5 (optional: 1:1 converter --> 180/5)
Fuji: Vivitar 90/2.5 (optional: 1:1 converter, Lens Turbo)



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Jan

11-07-2014, 06:53 AM   #2
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i really don't get why you want to sell some. There is no overlaping (ok, there is when using the speed booster) on film.

Keep all
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QuoteOriginally posted by aurele Quote
i really don't get why you want to sell some. There is no overlaping (ok, there is when using the speed booster) on film.

Keep all
I want to buy some Fuji AF lenses (35/1.4, maybe the 14/2.8 and/or the 55-200) and there are a few rather expensive Minolta lenses that I'm looking for (21/2.8, 85/2, 135/2).
You see, I need the money...

I'm definitely not selling the 58 or the 90 (unless I get a good deal on the Tokina version), those comparisons are mostly for curiosity's sake.
I'd like to sell either the 28 or the 35 (each worth ~150-200).
11-07-2014, 08:40 PM   #4
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being german, i'm sure that you are aware of artaphot.ch

is that 135/2.8 one of the legendary 4-element versions? hate to see that go.

same scenario with the 200/4... i have the celtic version of that glass, which doesn't appear to be on the radar, but it's outstanding on my a7r.

the 300 should go, but everything else is strong; the weakest thing you have is the lens turbo, not sure why you'd want it with glass like that.

being limited to the lens mount on the camera is also a factor.


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QuoteOriginally posted by osv Quote
being german, i'm sure that you are aware of artaphot.ch

is that 135/2.8 one of the legendary 4-element versions? hate to see that go.

same scenario with the 200/4... i have the celtic version of that glass, which doesn't appear to be on the radar, but it's outstanding on my a7r.

the 300 should go, but everything else is strong; the weakest thing you have is the lens turbo, not sure why you'd want it with glass like that.

being limited to the lens mount on the camera is also a factor.
Yes, the 135 is the 4/4 version and the 200 is the sought-after early MD version. I mainly bought them because I knew their reputation and I got them at very good prices.
I have found that I prefer zooms in the tele range, though. If I want a short tele, I usually take my MD 100/2.5 (the "plain MD" version). It's just as sharp as the 135 but it's a lot lighter (310g, 64x66mm -vs- 535g, 65x90mm).
I'll probably test the 200/4 against my recently aquired Canon FD 200/2.8 before I sell it but I will likely sell all my tele lenses (>100mm) and get a Fuji 55-200/3.5-4.8

Actually, I got all my manual lenses at very low prices (classifieds websites & patient auction sniping), the most I've ever paid for a manual lens is ~125 for the Vivitar 90/2.5.
I've often bought lenses mainly because they were bargains but I've never found some of those I REALLY want at bargain prices. My plan now is to "cash in" on the bargains and pay

the normal price for those I really want.
11-23-2014, 03:42 PM   #6
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Right, I've made up my mind:

Strong/Extreme wide angle:

Film: MD 24/2.8
Fuji: (Fuji 14/2.8?)

(Fast) Wide angle:
Film: MC 28/2.5, MC 35/1.8
Fuji: MC 35/1.8 + LT, Fuji 18-55/2.8-4, (Fuji 23/1.4?)

Normal:
Film: MC 50/1.4, MC 58/1.2
Fuji: MC 35/1.8, MC 50/1.4 + LT, Fuji 18-55/2.8-4, (Fuji 35/1.4?)

Portrait / short tele:
Film: Vivitar 90/2.5, Canon FDn 85/1.8
Fuji: MC 58/1.2, FDn 85/1.8, Fuji 18-55/2.8-4

Tele:
Film: Canon FD 200/2.8
Fuji: FD 200/2.8, (Fuji 55-200/3.5-4.8?)

Macro:
Film & Fuji: Vivitar 90/2.5 (optional: 1:1 converter --> 180/5)

I'm still looking for a Minolta MD200/2.8 and an MD85/2 to replace the Canon lenses...


The target for my Pentax kit is this:
Sigma 17-50/2.8
Pentax-F 35-70/3.5-4.5
Pentax-DA 18-135/3.5-5.6 WR
Pentax-DA 70/2.4
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