New Sony A7II and A9 with IBIS

osv · 12-05-2014, 03:10 PM

agreed, i bet that they all do know what the competition is up to.

i would think that retail stores would be a good source for individual model sales volume numbers?? take a percentage, extrapolate for the manufacturer overall figures.

i just don't see sony going "here canikon, this is exactly how many a7r's we've sold, it worked for us so it'll work for you" :-)

or maybe it's too late to worry about once the camera hits the market, and the real secret is in researching future trends.

i'm wondering what is going to happen with the a99 successor, if there is going to actually be one.

those guys can bring all of their glass over to e-mount with the laea4, do they really need another body?

---------- Post added 12-05-2014 at 02:16 PM ----------

Originally posted by mrNewt

Silly question... what is a good mount converter? From e full frame mount to k mount?
Thanks!

does the lens have an aperture ring? if not, you'll need an adapter that has an aperture ring on it, that in turn moves the aperture lever sticking out of the back of the lens.

you have to then calculate the aperture settings, and mark the adapter ring accordingly.

Christine Tham · 12-05-2014, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by osv

i would think that retail stores would be a good source for individual model sales volume numbers?? take a percentage, extrapolate for the manufacturer overall figures.

Retail numbers, like Amazon and Kakaku, are great for gauging market sentiment - i.e. which model is "hot" and which is not getting any attention. But as noted, these numbers are skewed by discontinued models on sale. The original Pentax Q for example was for many months in the top 20 on Kakaku - but at an average selling price of less than half of RRP.

Based on my sources, the a7r has been a really popular model, to the point that it has been out of stock at several points this year. You can bet Sony will be releasing a successor soon - maybe it's the A9 maybe not.

I am actually hoping Sony will release a small (perhaps entry level) full frame FE camera - in a NEX5 like form factor. I would buy that in a heartbeat.

mrNewt · 12-05-2014, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by osv

does the lens have an aperture ring? if not, you'll need an adapter that has an aperture ring on it, that in turn moves the aperture lever sticking out of the back of the lens. you have to then calculate the aperture settings, and mark the adapter ring accordingly.

Thanks!

Winder · 12-06-2014, 12:40 PM

You Tube

deadwolfbones · 12-06-2014, 06:40 PM - **1 Like**

Got to play with the A7 II a bit today at the Boston Waterworks Museum. All with adapted Pentax FA Limited lenses, all SOOC, mostly HC B&W preset:

Winder · 12-06-2014, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Got to play with the A7 II a bit today at the Boston Waterworks Museum. All with adapted Pentax FA Limited lenses, all SOOC, mostly HC B&W preset:

Just saw these over on Fred Miranda. Nice sample shots. I like the tones and textures of the HC B&W. Can you customize the settings for HC B&W? What site do you review for?

deadwolfbones · 12-06-2014, 07:57 PM

Reviewed.com. Or I used to, anyway. These days I'm the news & features editor.

You can't customize the HC B&W mode, but you can customize the regular monochrome Creative Style to add more (or less) contrast.

**luftfluss** · 12-09-2014, 07:22 PM

More A7 II impressions:

LuLa: Sony A7 MKII Hands On

TCSTV:

Youtu.be

**jpzk** · 12-09-2014, 08:33 PM

Confused here:

Is there such a thing as a "Mark II" Sony Ar7 ??
I thought it was simply called Ar7 II ... or maybe there is still another new Sony camera out there?

osv · 12-10-2014, 12:30 AM

i think that sony now has at least five ff bodies? four e-mount mirrorless, and the a-mount a99.
a7(24mp)
a7ii(24mp)
a7r(36mp)
a7s(12mp)

there is a rumor about a newer version of the a7r coming out soon.

sony is blowing out the 24mp a7, $1043 at b&h, with an old slr film body trade in.

freerider · 12-10-2014, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by osv

sony is blowing out the 24mp a7, $1043 at b&h, with an old slr film body trade in.

This has got me very tempted.

**TomB_tx** · 12-10-2014, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by osv

sony is blowing out the 24mp a7, $1043 at b&h, with an old slr film body trade in.

Good idea - I use mine only with my old film SLR lenses - works very well for these.

mrNewt · 12-10-2014, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by jpzk

Confused here:

Is there such a thing as a "Mark II" Sony Ar7 ??
I thought it was simply called Ar7 II ... or maybe there is still another new Sony camera out there?

a7
a7R
a7S

New - a7II (also called Mark II in the video)

Mistral75 · 12-10-2014, 07:34 AM

For those of you who read some French (or are interested in diagrams), Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sony's 5-Axis Stabilisation * But Were Afraid to Ask:

Sony Alpha 7 II: son stabilisateur 5 axes expliqué en vidéo

philbaum · 12-10-2014, 11:21 AM

One can tell that Sony senses a product triumph with their A7 series. A7 was announced in Oct 16 2013, and by Mid Nov 2014, 13 months later, we have A7R, A7S, and the A7II. I'll bet they are pulling resources from wherever to achieve this rapid development effort.

And these aren't small changes between models. I think Sony senses a "GoPro" moment here - their chance at a market breakthrough. And i respect their adherence to tradition in not introducing any more than one new lens for each new body - just kidding

Kudos to Sony for a job well done!

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12-05-2014, 03:10 PM	#181
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	agreed, i bet that they all do know what the competition is up to. i would think that retail stores would be a good source for individual model sales volume numbers?? take a percentage, extrapolate for the manufacturer overall figures. i just don't see sony going "here canikon, this is exactly how many a7r's we've sold, it worked for us so it'll work for you" :-) or maybe it's too late to worry about once the camera hits the market, and the real secret is in researching future trends. i'm wondering what is going to happen with the a99 successor, if there is going to actually be one. those guys can bring all of their glass over to e-mount with the laea4, do they really need another body? ---------- Post added 12-05-2014 at 02:16 PM ---------- Originally posted by mrNewt Silly question... what is a good mount converter? From e full frame mount to k mount? Thanks! does the lens have an aperture ring? if not, you'll need an adapter that has an aperture ring on it, that in turn moves the aperture lever sticking out of the back of the lens. you have to then calculate the aperture settings, and mark the adapter ring accordingly.

12-05-2014, 03:35 PM	#182
Christine Tham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,269	Originally posted by osv i would think that retail stores would be a good source for individual model sales volume numbers?? take a percentage, extrapolate for the manufacturer overall figures. Retail numbers, like Amazon and Kakaku, are great for gauging market sentiment - i.e. which model is "hot" and which is not getting any attention. But as noted, these numbers are skewed by discontinued models on sale. The original Pentax Q for example was for many months in the top 20 on Kakaku - but at an average selling price of less than half of RRP. Based on my sources, the a7r has been a really popular model, to the point that it has been out of stock at several points this year. You can bet Sony will be releasing a successor soon - maybe it's the A9 maybe not. I am actually hoping Sony will release a small (perhaps entry level) full frame FE camera - in a NEX5 like form factor. I would buy that in a heartbeat.

12-05-2014, 04:36 PM	#183
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by osv does the lens have an aperture ring? if not, you'll need an adapter that has an aperture ring on it, that in turn moves the aperture lever sticking out of the back of the lens. you have to then calculate the aperture settings, and mark the adapter ring accordingly. Thanks!

12-06-2014, 06:40 PM - 1 Like	#185
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Got to play with the A7 II a bit today at the Boston Waterworks Museum. All with adapted Pentax FA Limited lenses, all SOOC, mostly HC B&W preset:

12-06-2014, 07:48 PM	#186
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Got to play with the A7 II a bit today at the Boston Waterworks Museum. All with adapted Pentax FA Limited lenses, all SOOC, mostly HC B&W preset: Just saw these over on Fred Miranda. Nice sample shots. I like the tones and textures of the HC B&W. Can you customize the settings for HC B&W? What site do you review for?

12-06-2014, 07:57 PM	#187
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Reviewed.com. Or I used to, anyway. These days I'm the news & features editor. You can't customize the HC B&W mode, but you can customize the regular monochrome Creative Style to add more (or less) contrast.

12-09-2014, 08:33 PM	#189
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Confused here: Is there such a thing as a "Mark II" Sony Ar7 ?? I thought it was simply called Ar7 II ... or maybe there is still another new Sony camera out there?

12-10-2014, 12:30 AM	#190
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	i think that sony now has at least five ff bodies? four e-mount mirrorless, and the a-mount a99. a7(24mp) a7ii(24mp) a7r(36mp) a7s(12mp) there is a rumor about a newer version of the a7r coming out soon. sony is blowing out the 24mp a7, $1043 at b&h, with an old slr film body trade in.

12-10-2014, 12:43 AM	#191
freerider Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 299	Originally posted by osv sony is blowing out the 24mp a7, $1043 at b&h, with an old slr film body trade in. This has got me very tempted.

12-10-2014, 06:11 AM	#192
TomB_tx Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,446	Originally posted by osv sony is blowing out the 24mp a7, $1043 at b&h, with an old slr film body trade in. Good idea - I use mine only with my old film SLR lenses - works very well for these.

12-10-2014, 06:50 AM	#193
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by jpzk Confused here: Is there such a thing as a "Mark II" Sony Ar7 ?? I thought it was simply called Ar7 II ... or maybe there is still another new Sony camera out there? a7 a7R a7S New - a7II (also called Mark II in the video)

12-10-2014, 07:34 AM	#194
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	For those of you who read some French (or are interested in diagrams), Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sony's 5-Axis Stabilisation * But Were Afraid to Ask: Sony Alpha 7 II: son stabilisateur 5 axes expliqué en vidéo

12-10-2014, 11:21 AM	#195
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	One can tell that Sony senses a product triumph with their A7 series. A7 was announced in Oct 16 2013, and by Mid Nov 2014, 13 months later, we have A7R, A7S, and the A7II. I'll bet they are pulling resources from wherever to achieve this rapid development effort. And these aren't small changes between models. I think Sony senses a "GoPro" moment here - their chance at a market breakthrough. And i respect their adherence to tradition in not introducing any more than one new lens for each new body - just kidding Kudos to Sony for a job well done!