How important at the Changes In the A7II?

**Mikesul** · 12-13-2014, 06:21 PM

I can pick up an A7 with kit lens for a very good price. I cannot afford the A7II right now. I would be curious what users of the A7 would advise. Is the A7II improved enough to wait 6 months or will I get good service from the A7 I can afford right now? Most of my use will be with adapted lenses so I am very much attracted by the A7II IBIS. Us of the Pentax K5s and K3 have accustomed me to the help. However, I shot film 35mm for almost 40 years and never knew I needed it. Thanks for your thoughts on the two models..

Edit- I am familiar with emount from having used Nex 5,6,7 and A6000 extensively. I loved the A6000 focus help with my M*300.

Aegon · 12-13-2014, 06:27 PM

5-axis IBIS is amazing. I haven't used the A7II IBIS, but judging from Olympus 5-axis I'm sure you'll be happy.

stevebrot · 12-13-2014, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Is the A7II improved enough to wait 6 months

If you want body seals along with the ~~ISIS~~ IBIS, it would be good to wait.

Steve

Steve.Ledger · 12-13-2014, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

If you want body seals along with the ISIS

stevebrot · 12-13-2014, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

Dang...I keep doing that...

Steve

panoguy · 12-13-2014, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Dang...I keep doing that...

And some server in Maryland keeps track of every time you do it.

BTW, I think in-body stabilization is completely worth the wait, but that's because I won't buy another camera without it (my Sigma SD1 bites me in the butt all the time due to this lack).

**interested_observer** · 12-13-2014, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Dang...I keep doing that...

Steve

I am sure some folks will come knocking on your door....

pinholecam · 12-13-2014, 11:18 PM

To me as a PONY user, it does not fix the main problems and irritations of the A7 series.
IBIS has always been a 'good to have' but not a deal breaker to me.

I would stick with a used A7 for the low price they are going for now.

Just like a MZ5n I used years ago with the nice small Pentax lenses.

**TomB_tx** · 12-14-2014, 09:47 AM - **1 Like**

I really enjoy the A7 with my old MF Pentax lenses. I'm and old film shooter used to using ISO 400 for available light, so being able to use the A7s higher ISO range means I don't care about IBIS. My main digital is Leica M9, which also has no IS. While I have seen the benefits with my K-5, it's not a deciding factor to me. I use the A7 a lot more than my K-5 now.

12-13-2014, 06:21 PM	#1
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	How important at the Changes In the A7II? I can pick up an A7 with kit lens for a very good price. I cannot afford the A7II right now. I would be curious what users of the A7 would advise. Is the A7II improved enough to wait 6 months or will I get good service from the A7 I can afford right now? Most of my use will be with adapted lenses so I am very much attracted by the A7II IBIS. Us of the Pentax K5s and K3 have accustomed me to the help. However, I shot film 35mm for almost 40 years and never knew I needed it. Thanks for your thoughts on the two models.. Edit- I am familiar with emount from having used Nex 5,6,7 and A6000 extensively. I loved the A6000 focus help with my M*300.

12-13-2014, 06:32 PM	#3
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Mikesul Is the A7II improved enough to wait 6 months If you want body seals along with the ~~ISIS~~ IBIS, it would be good to wait. Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 12-13-2014 at 07:04 PM.

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12-13-2014, 06:27 PM	#2
Aegon Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,416	5-axis IBIS is amazing. I haven't used the A7II IBIS, but judging from Olympus 5-axis I'm sure you'll be happy.

12-13-2014, 06:53 PM	#4
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Originally posted by stevebrot If you want body seals along with the ISIS

12-13-2014, 07:03 PM	#5
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger Dang...I keep doing that... Steve

12-13-2014, 08:19 PM	#6
panoguy Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington, D.C. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,327	Originally posted by stevebrot Dang...I keep doing that... And some server in Maryland keeps track of every time you do it. BTW, I think in-body stabilization is completely worth the wait, but that's because I won't buy another camera without it (my Sigma SD1 bites me in the butt all the time due to this lack).

12-13-2014, 08:23 PM	#7
interested_observer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tumbleweed, Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,707	Originally posted by stevebrot Dang...I keep doing that... Steve I am sure some folks will come knocking on your door....

12-13-2014, 11:18 PM	#8
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	To me as a PONY user, it does not fix the main problems and irritations of the A7 series. IBIS has always been a 'good to have' but not a deal breaker to me. I would stick with a used A7 for the low price they are going for now. Just like a MZ5n I used years ago with the nice small Pentax lenses.

12-14-2014, 09:47 AM - 1 Like	#9
TomB_tx Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,446	I really enjoy the A7 with my old MF Pentax lenses. I'm and old film shooter used to using ISO 400 for available light, so being able to use the A7s higher ISO range means I don't care about IBIS. My main digital is Leica M9, which also has no IS. While I have seen the benefits with my K-5, it's not a deciding factor to me. I use the A7 a lot more than my K-5 now.

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