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02-21-2017, 10:24 AM   #166
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I recently spontaneously acquired a X100 from the first generation, since I love the 35mm perspective. However, I already own the Olympus 17mm F1.8 and Voigtlaender 17.5mm F0.95, but the latter is manual and heavy, and the former provides not enough shallow DOF. Also, I wanted to try the OVF. So far I am quite happy, although the X100 is far from snappy. Let's see how this story continuous....
The X100 demands patience, but rewards you kindly. You can't push the shadows like a K-5 and above, but you still get a great file to work with. Detail is wonderful, colors are unique in their own right. Some how the image is much different than what comes out of a Pentax, and it has its uses.

I do love mine, and won't ever sell it.

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The X100 experiment continues. So far I love the portability and OVF - due to the small lens better than the EM5 with the 17mm F1.8. Seriously considering getting a X-T20 for the 24MP, ASPC sensor aspect ratio and dynamic range.... but I am concerned regarding the IBIS and missing Olympus's inventions... Though this is from raw, I love the Fuji colors. Thought this would be an urban myth, but so far it turns out to be true...


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QuoteOriginally posted by Sinister Quote
The X100 experiment continues. So far I love the portability and OVF - due to the small lens better than the EM5 with the 17mm F1.8. Seriously considering getting a X-T20 for the 24MP, ASPC sensor aspect ratio and dynamic range.... but I am concerned regarding the IBIS and missing Olympus's inventions... Though this is from raw, I love the Fuji colors. Thought this would be an urban myth, but so far it turns out to be true...


Also considering the X-T20, or the X-A3 for the same reasons.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Sinister Quote
The X100 experiment continues. So far I love the portability and OVF - due to the small lens better than the EM5 with the 17mm F1.8. Seriously considering getting a X-T20 for the 24MP, ASPC sensor aspect ratio and dynamic range.... but I am concerned regarding the IBIS and missing Olympus's inventions... Though this is from raw, I love the Fuji colors. Thought this would be an urban myth, but so far it turns out to be true...


It has often been said the x100 is the gateway drug into fuji. I am eyeing an xpro-1. KEH has them at very affordable prices.

Just keep in mind the sensor changed after some time, this does produce a slightly different look. If you do your homework, you may be in the market for a new camera.

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Well, sensor pattern is something I can live with. My concern is the lack of stabilizer for primes, which are on the other hand the argument for investing in Fuji.

I'd go for a 12/x100f/35/56 and 16-50/50-230 combo. Cheaper and better than with MFT, though some functions would be missing. Pentax lost me due to the lack of fast primes and AF inconsistencies
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Well, sensor pattern is something I can live with. My concern is the lack of stabilizer for primes, which are on the other hand the argument for investing in Fuji.

I'd go for a 12/x100f/35/56 and 16-50/50-230 combo. Cheaper and better than with MFT, though some functions would be missing. Pentax lost me due to the lack of fast primes and AF inconsistencies
Ditto on Pentax. Alternately, you could do 18-55 and 50-230, or my prime set: 14, 27, and 60.

It's tricky though, apart from 35mm fov, micro 4/3 lenses are as good, and smaller. Overall IQ for Fuji is higher, and the IBS issue can be overcome by higher ISO capability.
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Ditto on Pentax. Alternately, you could do 18-55 and 50-230, or my prime set: 14, 27, and 60.

It's tricky though, apart from 35mm fov, micro 4/3 lenses are as good, and smaller. Overall IQ for Fuji is higher, and the IBS issue can be overcome by higher ISO capability.

Really sad to hear that. I still love my pentax gear. Yes it isn't the fastest glass, but it is sharp and full of color. I do agree, we need fast glass like Fuji or M43. I want Pentax Limited line with a 50mm 1.2, 30mm 1.4, and a 20 mm f2. I don't think my request is all that crazy, do you?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Blacknight659 Quote
Really sad to hear that. I still love my pentax gear. Yes it isn't the fastest glass, but it is sharp and full of color. I do agree, we need fast glass like Fuji or M43. I want Pentax Limited line with a 50mm 1.2, 30mm 1.4, and a 20 mm f2. I don't think my request is all that crazy, do you?
Count me in for those fast WR primes from Pentax, specially for that 24(35efl). I was really hoping that they would prioritize wider focal lengths since Pentax is an outdorsy camera (Not that the 50 & 85 are bad announcement). People still need to wait.

If only I can switch to Fujifilm that easy.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Blacknight659 Quote
Really sad to hear that. I still love my pentax gear. Yes it isn't the fastest glass, but it is sharp and full of color. I do agree, we need fast glass like Fuji or M43. I want Pentax Limited line with a 50mm 1.2, 30mm 1.4, and a 20 mm f2. I don't think my request is all that crazy, do you?
Zero issues with lens character, and pluses with both size and features (I've been around a bit and had the 15, 21, 40, 43, and 70). Speed (and focus speed), certainly. Limiting factor is not the lens, but the picture taker.

Annoyingly, the main reason now is physical. I broke a bone in the top of my hand last year, and since then, I can't handle heavy gear - especially my favourite 60-250mm paired with my last digital body, the K-5IIs (i've also had the *ist DS, K200d, K-7 before that) without it getting sore after a while.

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Count me in for those fast WR primes from Pentax, specially for that 24(35efl). I was really hoping that they would prioritize wider focal lengths since Pentax is an outdorsy camera (Not that the 50 & 85 are bad announcement). People still need to wait.

If only I can switch to Fujifilm that easy.
I've been waiting since 2011 for that 23-24mm WR lens. Fuji now have two in that range, and one is WR and F2, the other not WR, but quicker. My concern with Fuji is that the lenses are also getting steadily bigger.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clarkey Quote
Zero issues with lens character, and pluses with both size and features (I've been around a bit and had the 15, 21, 40, 43, and 70). Speed (and focus speed), certainly. Limiting factor is not the lens, but the picture taker.

Annoyingly, the main reason now is physical. I broke a bone in the top of my hand last year, and since then, I can't handle heavy gear - especially my favourite 60-250mm paired with my last digital body, the K-5IIs (i've also had the *ist DS, K200d, K-7 before that) without it getting sore after a while.



I've been waiting since 2011 for that 23-24mm WR lens. Fuji now have two in that range, and one is WR and F2, the other not WR, but quicker. My concern with Fuji is that the lenses are also getting steadily bigger.
Are you considering the new KP? I understand it is small and light, specifically designed to capture the Limited lens lovers.
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Are you considering the new KP? I understand it is small and light, specifically designed to capture the Limited lens lovers.
For dimensions, yes. Feature set, yes. I may yet buy one for straight out IQ and tripod work, together with the 20-40 Ltd for WR. I actually think it's quite a compelling offering and looks like my old MZ-5n film camera.

For weight: K-5IIs = 760g loaded. KP = 700g loaded. Fuji X-T20 = 383g. The size increases over the years have made a difference - *IST DS = 505g, K200D=630g, K-7=750g. Put any sort of lens on (other than the 40mm), and you are looking at 1kg, plus. Not the end of the world, but significant after a while.
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Are you considering the new KP? I understand it is small and light, specifically designed to capture the Limited lens lovers.
Is the KP as small and light as the K-30 or a K-x? That's what I really do not get, why is that camera is being pushed as a small and light but the truth is it isn't.

I am short stacked right now and could only afford either:
A. Get a Fuji X-100T/F (for my 24 agony and counter system switch)
B. Get a KP (Still having a hard time if black or silver)
C. Just keep on shooting with what I have.
D. Save up for that DFA *85

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QuoteOriginally posted by Clarkey Quote
For dimensions, yes. Feature set, yes. I may yet buy one for straight out IQ and tripod work, together with the 20-40 Ltd for WR. I actually think it's quite a compelling offering and looks like my old MZ-5n film camera.

For weight: K-5IIs = 760g loaded. KP = 700g loaded. Fuji X-T20 = 383g. The size increases over the years have made a difference - *IST DS = 505g, K200D=630g, K-7=750g. Put any sort of lens on (other than the 40mm), and you are looking at 1kg, plus. Not the end of the world, but significant after a while.
fully agree! weight is an issue, not necessarily volume.
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Just bought the XT10 with the 18-55 for 700 Euro. Very good offer! I'll ditch Pentax, let's see regarding MFT
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QuoteOriginally posted by wed7 Quote
If only I can switch to Fujifilm that easy.

You could add a system by starting at the XE1 and adapting M42s or K mounts....that model is great value with some features that are unique.


The 16-50 and 50-230 are basic native lenses to get started with, then add the primes that suit your style.


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It has often been said the x100 is the gateway drug into fuji. I am eyeing an xpro-1
The x100s is a model that "fixed" some of the shortcomings of the 100....


Eye a XE1, better value in a smaller package with similar features.....no OVF, if that's essential?
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