Samsung Getting out of the ILC Business?

D1N0 · 01-06-2016, 05:30 AM

CES is here and samsung had it's press conference about state of the art fridges and some other stuff like TV's a chromebook, a tablet and a vr video camera, but nothing about NX-mount whatsoever. Nikon is consolidating in DSLR's so even dpreview has lost faith: Opinion: Pour one out for Samsung cameras: Digital Photography Review

Still wondering where samsungs components are going though.....

osv · 01-06-2016, 09:37 AM

nx1 is still in stock, and back up to it's regular $1499 price Samsung NX1 Mirrorless Digital Camera EV-NX1ZZZBZBUS B&H Photo

D1N0 · 01-06-2016, 09:53 AM

It is still a very good camera, especially for shooting video. No need to clear the stock in a hurry. In Europe the price has dropped in most shops.

Samsung NX 1 Prijzen op Kieskeurig.nl
http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/4586825_-nx1-body-samsung.html

osv · 01-06-2016, 10:40 AM

samsung pulled out of europe, so it's not surprising that the price dropped there.

companies don't keep unprofitable product lines in stock with high prices, that's not logical, because it requires administrative overhead that costs money.

the nx1 is selling for the same overpriced $1499 that it's always sold at because it's making a profit for the company.

Doundounba · 01-06-2016, 11:00 AM

With the announcement of the D5 and D500, do the rumors that had Nikon as a suitor still make sense? I'm not sure. Maybe the Pentax K-1 will feature a fullframe version of the Samsung BSI sensor (with a slightly lower pixel density)? I wouldn't count on it, but we can dream for a few more weeks, I guess....

D1N0 · 01-06-2016, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by osv

samsung pulled out of europe, so it's not surprising that the price dropped there.

companies don't keep unprofitable product lines in stock with high prices, that's not logical, because it requires administrative overhead that costs money.

the nx1 is selling for the same overpriced $1499 that it's always sold at because it's making a profit for the company.

Ok explain why samsung doesn't even mention camera's at a press conference of the biggest consumer electronics show in the US where Nikon announces it's flagships for FX and DX. Japanese companies can launch products at CP+ but samsung doesn't go there.

audiobomber · 01-06-2016, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Doundounba

With the announcement of the D5 and D500, do the rumors that had Nikon as a suitor still make sense? I'm not sure. Maybe the Pentax K-1 will feature a fullframe version of the Samsung BSI sensor (with a slightly lower pixel density)? I wouldn't count on it, but we can dream for a few more weeks, I guess....

Not likely at all, and why would you want Samsung when there's a 42mp Sony BSI sensor?

**clackers** · 01-06-2016, 03:55 PM

Samsung and Pentax did good business in the past. You wouldn't rule anything out, even if unlikely.

Doundounba · 01-06-2016, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by audiobomber

Not likely at all, and why would you want Samsung when there's a 42mp Sony BSI sensor?

Dunno. Because I don't overly like Sony as a company? Because differentiation is good? Because of the Samsung processor? Because maybe they won't be getting the 42MP Sony sensor any time soon? Because maybe they could make it 50MP, plus pixel shift? Because that could also mean an NX mount Pentax APS-C mirrorless with a smart k-mount adapter? Just dreaming here...

surfar · 01-06-2016, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Doundounba

Dunno. Because I don't overly like Sony as a company? Because differentiation is good? Because of the Samsung processor? Because maybe they won't be getting the 42MP Sony sensor any time soon? Because maybe they could make it 50MP, plus pixel shift? Because that could also mean an NX mount Pentax APS-C mirrorless with a smart k-mount adapter? Just dreaming here...

that's a pleasant dream....

but at this stage, theres no definitive directions for NX....apart from the retail shut downs in various markets

CES isn't over and perhaps some further announcement?

Sammy got into ILC via rebadging Pentax....it'd be nice that the reverse happened with the smart adapter???

osv · 01-06-2016, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

Ok explain why samsung doesn't even mention camera's at a press conference of the biggest consumer electronics show in the US where Nikon announces it's flagships for FX and DX. Japanese companies can launch products at CP+ but samsung doesn't go there.

sony didn't launch any cameras at cp+

nobody is claiming that they are getting out of the camera business.

D1N0 · 01-07-2016, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by osv

sony didn't launch any cameras at cp+

nobody is claiming that they are getting out of the camera business.

CES you mean, but they extensively talked about the Alpha system where samsung was silent. Sony will announce camera's at cp+ (a6100 and a99II and a bunch of lenses are expected)

osv · 01-07-2016, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

CES you mean, but they extensively talked about the Alpha system where samsung was silent. Sony will announce camera's at cp+ (a6100 and a99II and a bunch of lenses are expected)

sony didn't announce new cameras at neither ces nor cp+, see the cp+ 2015 coverage: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3468545272/cp-2015-sony-shows-off-new-technology

we'll see what happens at cp+ 2016...

D1N0 · 01-07-2016, 10:39 AM

They did Introduce the A7II A7RII A77II A68 A7SII RX1MkII RX100MKIV RX10MKII in 2015.

osv · 01-07-2016, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

They did Introduce the A7II A7RII A77II A68 A7SII RX1MkII RX100MKIV RX10MKII in 2015.

samsung announced the nx500 in 2015: Capture Your Signature Moment with Samsung NX500 | SAMSUNG UK

your exact words were "Japanese companies can launch products at CP+ but samsung doesn't go there."

and i responded that sony also didn't announce cameras at that show, which clearly proved that your comment about the behavior of japanese companies was wrong.

01-06-2016, 03:56 PM	#234
Doundounba Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Montréal QC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,351	Originally posted by audiobomber Not likely at all, and why would you want Samsung when there's a 42mp Sony BSI sensor? Dunno. Because I don't overly like Sony as a company? Because differentiation is good? Because of the Samsung processor? Because maybe they won't be getting the 42MP Sony sensor any time soon? Because maybe they could make it 50MP, plus pixel shift? Because that could also mean an NX mount Pentax APS-C mirrorless with a smart k-mount adapter? Just dreaming here... Last edited by Doundounba; 01-06-2016 at 04:02 PM.

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01-06-2016, 05:30 AM	#226
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	CES is here and samsung had it's press conference about state of the art fridges and some other stuff like TV's a chromebook, a tablet and a vr video camera, but nothing about NX-mount whatsoever. Nikon is consolidating in DSLR's so even dpreview has lost faith: Opinion: Pour one out for Samsung cameras: Digital Photography Review Still wondering where samsungs components are going though.....

01-06-2016, 09:37 AM	#227
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	nx1 is still in stock, and back up to it's regular $1499 price Samsung NX1 Mirrorless Digital Camera EV-NX1ZZZBZBUS B&H Photo

01-06-2016, 09:53 AM	#228
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	It is still a very good camera, especially for shooting video. No need to clear the stock in a hurry. In Europe the price has dropped in most shops. Samsung NX 1 Prijzen op Kieskeurig.nl http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/4586825_-nx1-body-samsung.html

01-06-2016, 10:40 AM	#229
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	samsung pulled out of europe, so it's not surprising that the price dropped there. companies don't keep unprofitable product lines in stock with high prices, that's not logical, because it requires administrative overhead that costs money. the nx1 is selling for the same overpriced $1499 that it's always sold at because it's making a profit for the company.

01-06-2016, 11:00 AM	#230
Doundounba Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Montréal QC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,351	With the announcement of the D5 and D500, do the rumors that had Nikon as a suitor still make sense? I'm not sure. Maybe the Pentax K-1 will feature a fullframe version of the Samsung BSI sensor (with a slightly lower pixel density)? I wouldn't count on it, but we can dream for a few more weeks, I guess....

01-06-2016, 11:36 AM	#231
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by osv samsung pulled out of europe, so it's not surprising that the price dropped there. companies don't keep unprofitable product lines in stock with high prices, that's not logical, because it requires administrative overhead that costs money. the nx1 is selling for the same overpriced $1499 that it's always sold at because it's making a profit for the company. Ok explain why samsung doesn't even mention camera's at a press conference of the biggest consumer electronics show in the US where Nikon announces it's flagships for FX and DX. Japanese companies can launch products at CP+ but samsung doesn't go there.

01-06-2016, 03:12 PM	#232
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by Doundounba With the announcement of the D5 and D500, do the rumors that had Nikon as a suitor still make sense? I'm not sure. Maybe the Pentax K-1 will feature a fullframe version of the Samsung BSI sensor (with a slightly lower pixel density)? I wouldn't count on it, but we can dream for a few more weeks, I guess.... Not likely at all, and why would you want Samsung when there's a 42mp Sony BSI sensor?

01-06-2016, 03:55 PM	#233
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Samsung and Pentax did good business in the past. You wouldn't rule anything out, even if unlikely.

01-06-2016, 04:14 PM	#235
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by Doundounba Dunno. Because I don't overly like Sony as a company? Because differentiation is good? Because of the Samsung processor? Because maybe they won't be getting the 42MP Sony sensor any time soon? Because maybe they could make it 50MP, plus pixel shift? Because that could also mean an NX mount Pentax APS-C mirrorless with a smart k-mount adapter? Just dreaming here... that's a pleasant dream.... but at this stage, theres no definitive directions for NX....apart from the retail shut downs in various markets CES isn't over and perhaps some further announcement? Sammy got into ILC via rebadging Pentax....it'd be nice that the reverse happened with the smart adapter???

01-06-2016, 08:54 PM	#236
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	Originally posted by D1N0 Ok explain why samsung doesn't even mention camera's at a press conference of the biggest consumer electronics show in the US where Nikon announces it's flagships for FX and DX. Japanese companies can launch products at CP+ but samsung doesn't go there. sony didn't launch any cameras at cp+ nobody is claiming that they are getting out of the camera business.

01-07-2016, 05:25 AM	#237
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by osv sony didn't launch any cameras at cp+ nobody is claiming that they are getting out of the camera business. CES you mean, but they extensively talked about the Alpha system where samsung was silent. Sony will announce camera's at cp+ (a6100 and a99II and a bunch of lenses are expected)

01-07-2016, 10:19 AM	#238
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	Originally posted by D1N0 CES you mean, but they extensively talked about the Alpha system where samsung was silent. Sony will announce camera's at cp+ (a6100 and a99II and a bunch of lenses are expected) sony didn't announce new cameras at neither ces nor cp+, see the cp+ 2015 coverage: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3468545272/cp-2015-sony-shows-off-new-technology we'll see what happens at cp+ 2016...

01-07-2016, 10:39 AM	#239
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	They did Introduce the A7II A7RII A77II A68 A7SII RX1MkII RX100MKIV RX10MKII in 2015.

01-07-2016, 11:46 AM	#240
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	Originally posted by D1N0 They did Introduce the A7II A7RII A77II A68 A7SII RX1MkII RX100MKIV RX10MKII in 2015. samsung announced the nx500 in 2015: Capture Your Signature Moment with Samsung NX500 \| SAMSUNG UK your exact words were "Japanese companies can launch products at CP+ but samsung doesn't go there." and i responded that sony also didn't announce cameras at that show, which clearly proved that your comment about the behavior of japanese companies was wrong.