[Rondec]

I would argue that pentax has been pretty far behind ever since the A7 series made its debut. They have nailed both stills and video where pentax is struggling on the video side of things. I would sort of argue that everyone has fallen behind the big mirrorless players at the moment. They are reinventing the wheel. Fast flash sync used to cost as much as a a car but panasonic gives it to us for under $1000 in the fz1000. Pentax really needs to modernize too. it was said before here but these days its not enough to just be a good camera. You have to have an ecosystem that can connect up with other things like your tv. The NX1 can stream 4k video to your tv wirelessly and this is pretty damn awesome

Why would you want to stream 4K wirelessly to your TV? My impression of most video footage is that, whether or not it is high quality with regard to the codec used, it requires significant editing to make it watchable for anyone except for very close family.

[normhead]

There's nothing wrong with being awestruck by piece of equipment. But you shouldn't be expecting others who use other equipment to share your awe. You have what blows your whistle, they have what blows theirs.

[stevebrot]

I would argue that pentax has been pretty far behind ever since the A7 series made its debut.

You mean the A7 series of the slow AF and loud shutter and nausea inducing EVF? Don't get me wrong, I like the A7 variants and almost bought one, but while they are avant garde, they don't necessarily represent a target for emulation.


Steve

[stevebrot]

Why would you want to stream 4K wirelessly to your TV?

Much, much more convenient for those spur-of-the moment porno recaps?


Steve

(...first thing that came to my mind and even that took some contemplation...)

[Digitalis]

much more convenient for those spur-of-the moment porno recaps?

That is certainly a more risqué application. But while we are here, they use 4K for that now...... really?

( well I suppose they do, since they did go through the whole slow motion and 3D videography phase)

[bvg]

Home - Sony's Community Site

Have you seen that site and how many replays posts have there?

[osv]

Have you seen that site and how many replays posts have there?

you'll have to translate that, i only speak english

[pathdoc]

But while we are here, they use 4K for that now...... really?

I expect it's the ability to capture really high-quality stills out of the video feed that is the main attraction for that use.

[surfar]

From what Ive read about the stills taken out of the 4k video(Sony and Sammy), They only come out at 8mp.

[pathdoc]

Still better than my old *ist-DL. Given the awfulness of some video stills I've seen, a good 8MP image is worth its weight in gold.

[neostyles]

You mean the A7 series of the slow AF and loud shutter and nausea inducing EVF? Don't get me wrong, I like the A7 variants and almost bought one, but while they are avant garde, they don't necessarily represent a target for emulation.

Read more at: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/76-non-pentax-cameras-canon-nikon-etc/305...#ixzz3puVf9hUb

No, i think you may be confusing it with something else. I'm referring to the sony full frame mirrorless lineup that has had people talking from day one. Im referring to the cameras that made focusing on the eye as easy as a press of a button, completely elimited mirror slap allowing you to shoot at slower shutter speeds, offered a tilt screen allowing you to shoot at low or high angles, and in body 4k video as well as 4 axis stabilization. All this in a system that is much smaller and ligter than a dslr not to mention much cheaper. Oh and given the fact that the have more market share than pentax despite being in the game for less than half the time pentax has (even if you discount their film days) i would say that they are a "target for emulation." Oh and the evf in the sony a7rii has been called on of the best. It can even brighten up dark scenes, allowing you to manual focus in the dark, something which photographer since the days of pinhole cameras would be fanatically jealous of.

Sony is the brand that everyone is talking about at the moment so i can think of no better brand for them to copy. The amount of innovation sony is bringing to the table is what caused them to go from obscure to the talk of the town in a few years. They have a a $600 body that does more than some $6000 dslrs. They have full sensor readout which to my knowledge was only seen in cinema cameras. They are bringing tons of exciting stuff to us soon with the a7000 that is rumored to have on sensor hdr.

[Digitalis]

Given the awfulness of some video stills I've seen, a good 8MP image is worth its weight in gold

the problem is finding one that is sharp, Video is shot at lower shutter speeds than stills are - you need several thousand watts of light for a video camera to get even close to matching a DSLR for motion stopping capability. And when it comes to light output it is really expensive and technically difficult to beat xenon arc flash.

[Rondec]

There is a reason why sports photographers still shoot SLRs with huge zooms. They need the best auto focus -- both with regard to speed and with regard to tracking and they don't need a bunch of megapixels. Their lenses have to be long and have pretty fast apertures. There may be a sports photographer somewhere shooting mirrorless, but as of now, it isn't there yet and a D750 will out perform an A7r II with right lens.

Clipping individual photos of 4K video is even less likely to generate useful images in comparison to a dedicated still camera.

[pathdoc]

All that notwithstanding, I'd still rather have eight megapixels in my vidcap than one or two. There is blur, yes, but that depends on what the subject is doing at the time, and a few still frames when they are relatively motionless or when the right parts are non-blurry could be golden moments.

[BigMackCam]

No, i think you may be confusing it with something else. I'm referring to the sony full frame mirrorless lineup that has had people talking from day one. Im referring to the cameras that made focusing on the eye as easy as a press of a button, completely elimited mirror slap allowing you to shoot at slower shutter speeds, offered a tilt screen allowing you to shoot at low or high angles, and in body 4k video as well as 4 axis stabilization. All this in a system that is much smaller and ligter than a dslr not to mention much cheaper. Oh and given the fact that the have more market share than pentax despite being in the game for less than half the time pentax has (even if you discount their film days) i would say that they are a "target for emulation." Oh and the evf in the sony a7rii has been called on of the best. It can even brighten up dark scenes, allowing you to manual focus in the dark, something which photographer since the days of pinhole cameras would be fanatically jealous of.

Sony is the brand that everyone is talking about at the moment so i can think of no better brand for them to copy. The amount of innovation sony is bringing to the table is what caused them to go from obscure to the talk of the town in a few years. They have a a $600 body that does more than some $6000 dslrs. They have full sensor readout which to my knowledge was only seen in cinema cameras. They are bringing tons of exciting stuff to us soon with the a7000 that is rumored to have on sensor hdr.

Is any of that really important for most people? I don't doubt Sony is doing great things, but most of us just want to capture images of satisfying resolution and dynamic range, with equipment that is enjoyable to use. You can dress that basic functionality up with all the baubles and trinkets you like (and heaven knows I can be a sucker for new toys), but given the quality of photos people on this forum have taken with decade-old *ist-DLs, do all those higher specs, extra functions, really matter? I have a good deal of funds invested in my Pentax gear because I love using it and the results it gives. Whether Pentax is ahead, keeping up, or behind in the game doesn't seem too important if I can take the pictures I want...