"Lens Mounts No Longer Matter"

osv · 12-02-2015, 10:09 AM - **1 Like**

"Lens Mounts No Longer Matter"

https://luminous-landscape.com/lens-mounts/

**jatrax** · 12-02-2015, 10:30 AM

I found this statement interesting: "my guess is that not only are the margins better on cameras than on lenses" since the accepted wisdom here is that the margins on lenses is much better than on bodies. I guess if you are using the razor->razor blade plan that is true, sell the body cheap so you can lock the customer in to high priced lenses. But this reverses that thinking. Make your money on the body because your customers are likely to spend (or have already spent) their lens money on a different brand.

Might explain why Sony bodies are so expensive??

**LaurenOE** · 12-02-2015, 10:32 AM

Yep.
I already use my Pentax glass on my Sony FS7 and my little Nex 5T.
If Pentax/Ricoh messes up with the FF, it will hurt them in more ways than just a FF camera.

jaz · 12-02-2015, 11:12 AM

Thanks for the link to this very interesting article.

dsmithhfx · 12-02-2015, 12:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by osv

"Lens Mounts No Longer Matter"

https://luminous-landscape.com/lens-mounts/

There a few holes in this. First of all, the title should be, "Lens Mounts No Longer Matter for some lenses on some camera bodies". Secondly the idea is hardly new: m42 'universal' mount, t-mount, tamron adaptall. Tamron, Sigma et al have released lines of lenses with multiple fixed mounts available, covering a broad spectrum of popular camera brands. A wrinkle in this is that they have to reverse-engineer the firmware to work with ensuing model releases (strangely, Nikon, Canon etc are unwilling to hand over trade secrets). This has involved the owner shipping the lens back to the factory, so the DIY aspect described in the article is a new angle.

How this works in practice, and whether major camera brands will take this lying down, remains to be seen, but two possibilities that spring to mind are: some kind of firmware encryption, and IP lawsuits (think DMCA).

So not quite as advertised.

**Digitalis** · 12-04-2015, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by dsmithhfx

Secondly the idea is hardly new: m42 'universal' mount, t-mount, tamron adaptall.

...and we all know how that ended.

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12-02-2015, 10:30 AM	#2
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	I found this statement interesting: "my guess is that not only are the margins better on cameras than on lenses" since the accepted wisdom here is that the margins on lenses is much better than on bodies. I guess if you are using the razor->razor blade plan that is true, sell the body cheap so you can lock the customer in to high priced lenses. But this reverses that thinking. Make your money on the body because your customers are likely to spend (or have already spent) their lens money on a different brand. Might explain why Sony bodies are so expensive??

12-02-2015, 10:32 AM	#3
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Yep. I already use my Pentax glass on my Sony FS7 and my little Nex 5T. If Pentax/Ricoh messes up with the FF, it will hurt them in more ways than just a FF camera.

12-02-2015, 11:12 AM	#4
jaz Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 45	Thanks for the link to this very interesting article.

12-02-2015, 12:13 PM - 1 Like	#5
dsmithhfx Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,146	Originally posted by osv "Lens Mounts No Longer Matter" https://luminous-landscape.com/lens-mounts/ There a few holes in this. First of all, the title should be, "Lens Mounts No Longer Matter for some lenses on some camera bodies". Secondly the idea is hardly new: m42 'universal' mount, t-mount, tamron adaptall. Tamron, Sigma et al have released lines of lenses with multiple fixed mounts available, covering a broad spectrum of popular camera brands. A wrinkle in this is that they have to reverse-engineer the firmware to work with ensuing model releases (strangely, Nikon, Canon etc are unwilling to hand over trade secrets). This has involved the owner shipping the lens back to the factory, so the DIY aspect described in the article is a new angle. How this works in practice, and whether major camera brands will take this lying down, remains to be seen, but two possibilities that spring to mind are: some kind of firmware encryption, and IP lawsuits (think DMCA). So not quite as advertised.

12-04-2015, 06:27 PM	#6
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by dsmithhfx Secondly the idea is hardly new: m42 'universal' mount, t-mount, tamron adaptall. ...and we all know how that ended.