Sony Unveils Its New G Master Line of Flagship Lenses

Sliver-Surfer · 02-03-2016, 02:04 PM

Sony got some serious glass coming...
Sony Unveils Its New G Master Line of Flagship Lenses

rawr · 02-03-2016, 02:08 PM

Serious prices too.

starjedi · 02-03-2016, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by rawr

Serious prices too.

Serious weight too...

**Digitalis** · 02-03-2016, 06:10 PM - **3 Likes**

G master...it sounds like an adult product aimed at women.

normhead · 02-03-2016, 06:24 PM

But where's their 60-250 ƒ4?

rawr · 02-03-2016, 07:11 PM

From DPR, they report about the 70-200 f2.8:

The 70-200 sports a dual implementation: two focus groups at either end of the lens are drive by different actuators. A ring drive SSM drives the front AF group while dual linear motors drive a floating rear group.

My first instinct upon reading this was: so much to go wrong!
Plus the lens has optical stabilisation built-in too, meaning some lens elements are magnetically floating around.

Expensive repairs and time consuming adjustments ahead.

**Digitalis** · 02-03-2016, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by rawr

My first instinct upon reading this was: so much to go wrong!

same here.

Sliver-Surfer · 02-03-2016, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by normhead

But where's their 60-250 ƒ4?

they have 24-240MM F3.5-6.3 already

**Digitalis** · 02-03-2016, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by Sliver-Surfer

they have 24-240MM F3.5-6.3 already

...and we all know Sony users are flocking to it and praising it as the second coming of Christ.

drypenn · 02-04-2016, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

...and we all know Sony users are flocking to it and praising it as the second coming of Christ.

Don't they always do that at every single thing Sony releases?

**clackers** · 02-04-2016, 03:50 AM

I bought their cameras three times, so repeatedly saw the queue to buy the product, and the other to get lobotomized that the other customers ran towards obediently. 😀

**Rondec** · 02-04-2016, 04:04 AM

I wonder when Sony will have a body that can use these lenses ergonomically. I know you can mount large lenses on a mirrorless camera, but I can't see a wedding photographer, for instance, enjoying shooting a full day with the 70-200 f2.8 "G Master" on an A7r.

**Digitalis** · 02-04-2016, 04:11 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rondec

I wonder when Sony will have a body that can use these lenses ergonomically.

Sony doesn't care about ergonomics, they are an electronics company. It's like asking Leica to make a cheap lens*

*technically they do: the Leica Elmarit-M 50mm f/2.8, it is cheap compared to other Leica lenses.

**Rondec** · 02-04-2016, 04:27 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

Sony doesn't care about ergonomics, they are an electronics company. It's like asking Leica to make a cheap lens*

*technically they do: the Leica Elmarit-M 50mm f/2.8, it is cheap compared to other Leica lenses.

Yes, it feels like Sony makes gadgets. Nice gadgets that are capable of taking excellent photos, but gadgets non the less. If someone doesn't need fast zooms and, in particular, doesn't mind poorly engineered primes that require a lot of software manipulation to look decent, than their cameras should fit the bill. Even with this announcement, I would tend to go to traditional SLR design if one needs fast zooms precisely because of the whole ergonomic issue and the simple reality that there is no size reduction overall once you mount a 70-200 f2.8 or 24-70 f2.8 lens on one of these cameras.

Winder · 02-04-2016, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I wonder when Sony will have a body that can use these lenses ergonomically. I know you can mount large lenses on a mirrorless camera, but I can't see a wedding photographer, for instance, enjoying shooting a full day with the 70-200 f2.8 "G Master" on an A7r.

The A9 is probably not far off. Sony has not had the glass for such a camera and the glass is what takes a long time to develop. Before the launch of the A900 Sony launched the Sony/Zeiss 85mm F/1.4 and the 24-70 F/2.8. Once the glass is shipping I expect to see a larger A9 with a bigger battery, more processing power, and better ergonomics.

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rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Serious prices too.

02-03-2016, 04:54 PM	#3
starjedi Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 932	Originally posted by rawr Serious prices too. Serious weight too...

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Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	G master...it sounds like an adult product aimed at women.

02-03-2016, 06:24 PM	#5
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	But where's their 60-250 ƒ4?

02-03-2016, 07:11 PM	#6
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	From DPR, they report about the 70-200 f2.8: The 70-200 sports a dual implementation: two focus groups at either end of the lens are drive by different actuators. A ring drive SSM drives the front AF group while dual linear motors drive a floating rear group. My first instinct upon reading this was: so much to go wrong! Plus the lens has optical stabilisation built-in too, meaning some lens elements are magnetically floating around. Expensive repairs and time consuming adjustments ahead.

02-03-2016, 07:19 PM	#7
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by rawr My first instinct upon reading this was: so much to go wrong! same here.

02-03-2016, 08:02 PM	#8
Sliver-Surfer Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,558 Original Poster	Originally posted by normhead But where's their 60-250 ƒ4? they have 24-240MM F3.5-6.3 already

02-03-2016, 11:36 PM	#9
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by Sliver-Surfer they have 24-240MM F3.5-6.3 already ...and we all know Sony users are flocking to it and praising it as the second coming of Christ.

02-04-2016, 12:59 AM	#10
drypenn Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 963	Originally posted by Digitalis ...and we all know Sony users are flocking to it and praising it as the second coming of Christ. Don't they always do that at every single thing Sony releases?

02-04-2016, 03:50 AM	#11
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	I bought their cameras three times, so repeatedly saw the queue to buy the product, and the other to get lobotomized that the other customers ran towards obediently. 😀

02-04-2016, 04:04 AM	#12
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	I wonder when Sony will have a body that can use these lenses ergonomically. I know you can mount large lenses on a mirrorless camera, but I can't see a wedding photographer, for instance, enjoying shooting a full day with the 70-200 f2.8 "G Master" on an A7r.

02-04-2016, 04:11 AM - 1 Like	#13
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by Rondec I wonder when Sony will have a body that can use these lenses ergonomically. Sony doesn't care about ergonomics, they are an electronics company. It's like asking Leica to make a cheap lens* technically they do: the Leica Elmarit-M 50mm f/2.8, it is cheap compared* to other Leica lenses.

02-04-2016, 04:27 AM	#14
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	Originally posted by Digitalis Sony doesn't care about ergonomics, they are an electronics company. It's like asking Leica to make a cheap lens* technically they do: the Leica Elmarit-M 50mm f/2.8, it is cheap compared* to other Leica lenses. Yes, it feels like Sony makes gadgets. Nice gadgets that are capable of taking excellent photos, but gadgets non the less. If someone doesn't need fast zooms and, in particular, doesn't mind poorly engineered primes that require a lot of software manipulation to look decent, than their cameras should fit the bill. Even with this announcement, I would tend to go to traditional SLR design if one needs fast zooms precisely because of the whole ergonomic issue and the simple reality that there is no size reduction overall once you mount a 70-200 f2.8 or 24-70 f2.8 lens on one of these cameras.

02-04-2016, 04:37 AM	#15
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by Rondec I wonder when Sony will have a body that can use these lenses ergonomically. I know you can mount large lenses on a mirrorless camera, but I can't see a wedding photographer, for instance, enjoying shooting a full day with the 70-200 f2.8 "G Master" on an A7r. The A9 is probably not far off. Sony has not had the glass for such a camera and the glass is what takes a long time to develop. Before the launch of the A900 Sony launched the Sony/Zeiss 85mm F/1.4 and the 24-70 F/2.8. Once the glass is shipping I expect to see a larger A9 with a bigger battery, more processing power, and better ergonomics.