Panasonic LX100 much better than Pentax Q

johnmflores · 03-02-2016, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by mklives

Yes, viewing at 200% is a good way for a pixel peeper to enjoy a photo.

You asked for it. I examine all of my photos at 100% before submitting it to my publisher. Great photography is a mix of art and craft.

Don't get me wrong, you took a nice shot. But nice shots are a dime a dozen these days. If you really think that you're that good, go straight to medium format and realize youre creative vision. Don't waste it on a small sensor compact like the LX100.

mklives · 03-02-2016, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

You asked for it. I examine all of my photos at 100% before submitting it to my publisher. Great photography is a mix of art and craft.

Don't get me wrong, you took a nice shot. But nice shots are a dime a dozen these days. If you really think that you're that good, go straight to medium format and realize youre creative vision. Don't waste it on a small sensor compact like the LX100.

I admit, I've gone a bit overboard with silliness. I was just trying to divert myself from pain. I know the LX100 is severely limited, like all compact cameras. However, I still like it. I would buy a Q if Pentax built an 800mm prime with AF for it. Take advantage of that tiny sensor.

surfar · 03-02-2016, 05:03 PM

A "bit"?....that photo and your posts make you well in the running for a highly coveted award

Fruit Loop of the year.

mklives · 03-02-2016, 07:04 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by surfar

A "bit"?....that photo and your posts make you well in the running for a highly coveted award

Fruit Loop of the year.

To make up for my silliness, here is a video I filmed in Japan. It's a bit slow, but the music should help you get through it. Watch in 1080p.

You Tube

shaolen · 03-02-2016, 11:28 PM

Hah the Q has some of the best lenses around. I'm sorry but is mklives 12 years old or something? Because it really seems like were speaking with a child

**RobA_Oz** · 03-03-2016, 12:37 AM - **1 Like**

OK. Enough of the hyperbole. You like the LX100. If I had one, I'd probably like it, too. I like my Q, my K-3, my X30 (which I judged to be better value for a walk around P&S), my Minox, Leica IIIc etc, etc. I'm not suggesting anyone else should like them better than the cameras they're using now. As one of the video reviewers said, just "get out and take some damn photos". All the rest is just comparing d*ck lengths.

**dms** · 03-03-2016, 01:07 AM

As regards your statement "Well, that's a given, due to the better sensor and higher quality lens" is the major area that is not right. As mentioned above if it is all about better sensor and higher quality lens we would all have 645Z, or whatever.

What makes a good camera is partially that and many other things. If the camera works well for one, and is available, it will likely give great results. It depends on what the individual sees as important, for a given scenario. That's why comparing spec's is never enough.

I think your photo's are very good, and likely to many mine would not be--but for my style the Q works very well, and I usually leave my K-5 home (but not in my theater photography!).

Emacs · 03-03-2016, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by mklives

I had the Pentax Q and standard prime for a few months. I loved the cuteness factor, the appearance, and the controls. But the image quality just wasn't there. Resolution, colour, detail, and low-light ability were all horrendous. In my opinion, now that some micro 4/3 cameras are around the same size as the Q and have a plethora of affordable AF lenses to choose from, the Pentax Q only has credibility as an astronomical tool with telescopes, etc.
I sold the Pentax Q and bought the Panasonic LX100. It's not much bigger than the Q, and neither are pocketable. I was able to get the following photo with the LX100. I can guarantee you I wouldn't have been able to get a photo anywhere close to this quality with the Q. I don't think Pentax will continue with the Q system.

http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/57352751/9b34e4e9bdce4a4e845484a67d6cdd85

After the RX100 release Pentax Q was completely odd choice.

**RobA_Oz** · 03-03-2016, 01:42 AM

67 posts before Sony was invoked. Monochrome was right, it seems.

**BigMackCam** · 03-03-2016, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by Emacs

After the RX100 release Pentax Q was completely odd choice.

Two completely different cameras offering different benefits (and compromises)... much like the OP's LX100 vs Q... apples and oranges.

pinholecam · 03-03-2016, 03:03 AM - **1 Like**

Nice image, though when I pixel peep, its also smudgey like all small sensors.

Q is what it is. (small sensor, MILC )
There is no perfect camera, just use it to its strength....

This one from a good friend of mine...
Fluidr / Bernard Yeo's "Pentax-08 Wide Zoom" set

My own use.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/233063-tokyo-story-pentax-q7...ld-review.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/194467-pentax-q-real-world-user-review.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/256302-pentax-outing-more-q-...pressions.html

johnmflores · 03-03-2016, 06:48 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mklives

To make up for my silliness, here is a video I filmed in Japan. It's a bit slow, but the music should help you get through it. Watch in 1080p.

Beautiful Japan - YouTube

Nice. Thanks for sharing. The music and video worked well together.

mklives · 03-03-2016, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Nice. Thanks for sharing. The music and video worked well together.

Thanks. Shot on LX100. The original 4k clips are much sharper but I downscaled them to 1080p using a free program that doesn't do a great job. Then edited simply using Apple's iMovie. First movie I've made.

drypenn · 03-03-2016, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by mklives

Thanks. Shot on LX100. The original 4k clips are much sharper but I downscaled them to 1080p using a free program that doesn't do a great job. Then edited simply using Apple's iMovie. First movie I've made.

Impressive as a first movie. I probably can never make a decent movie even if my life depends on one!

shaolen · 03-06-2016, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by pinholecam

Nice image, though when I pixel peep, its also smudgey like all small sensors.

Q is what it is. (small sensor, MILC )
There is no perfect camera, just use it to its strength....

This one from a good friend of mine...
Fluidr / Bernard Yeo's "Pentax-08 Wide Zoom" set

My own use.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/233063-tokyo-story-pentax-q7...ld-review.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/194467-pentax-q-real-world-user-review.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/256302-pentax-outing-more-q-...pressions.html

Those 08 photos are amazing. I need to get a Q7 and 08 again

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03-02-2016, 04:48 PM	#61
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by mklives Yes, viewing at 200% is a good way for a pixel peeper to enjoy a photo. You asked for it. I examine all of my photos at 100% before submitting it to my publisher. Great photography is a mix of art and craft. Don't get me wrong, you took a nice shot. But nice shots are a dime a dozen these days. If you really think that you're that good, go straight to medium format and realize youre creative vision. Don't waste it on a small sensor compact like the LX100.

03-02-2016, 04:57 PM	#62
mklives Junior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 38 Original Poster	Originally posted by johnmflores You asked for it. I examine all of my photos at 100% before submitting it to my publisher. Great photography is a mix of art and craft. Don't get me wrong, you took a nice shot. But nice shots are a dime a dozen these days. If you really think that you're that good, go straight to medium format and realize youre creative vision. Don't waste it on a small sensor compact like the LX100. I admit, I've gone a bit overboard with silliness. I was just trying to divert myself from pain. I know the LX100 is severely limited, like all compact cameras. However, I still like it. I would buy a Q if Pentax built an 800mm prime with AF for it. Take advantage of that tiny sensor.

03-02-2016, 05:03 PM	#63
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	A "bit"?....that photo and your posts make you well in the running for a highly coveted award Fruit Loop of the year.

03-02-2016, 11:28 PM	#65
shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047	Hah the Q has some of the best lenses around. I'm sorry but is mklives 12 years old or something? Because it really seems like were speaking with a child

03-03-2016, 12:37 AM - 1 Like	#66
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	OK. Enough of the hyperbole. You like the LX100. If I had one, I'd probably like it, too. I like my Q, my K-3, my X30 (which I judged to be better value for a walk around P&S), my Minox, Leica IIIc etc, etc. I'm not suggesting anyone else should like them better than the cameras they're using now. As one of the video reviewers said, just "get out and take some damn photos". All the rest is just comparing d*ck lengths.

03-03-2016, 01:07 AM	#67
dms Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,192	As regards your statement "Well, that's a given, due to the better sensor and higher quality lens" is the major area that is not right. As mentioned above if it is all about better sensor and higher quality lens we would all have 645Z, or whatever. What makes a good camera is partially that and many other things. If the camera works well for one, and is available, it will likely give great results. It depends on what the individual sees as important, for a given scenario. That's why comparing spec's is never enough. I think your photo's are very good, and likely to many mine would not be--but for my style the Q works very well, and I usually leave my K-5 home (but not in my theater photography!).

03-03-2016, 01:34 AM	#68
Emacs Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 1,223	Originally posted by mklives I had the Pentax Q and standard prime for a few months. I loved the cuteness factor, the appearance, and the controls. But the image quality just wasn't there. Resolution, colour, detail, and low-light ability were all horrendous. In my opinion, now that some micro 4/3 cameras are around the same size as the Q and have a plethora of affordable AF lenses to choose from, the Pentax Q only has credibility as an astronomical tool with telescopes, etc. I sold the Pentax Q and bought the Panasonic LX100. It's not much bigger than the Q, and neither are pocketable. I was able to get the following photo with the LX100. I can guarantee you I wouldn't have been able to get a photo anywhere close to this quality with the Q. I don't think Pentax will continue with the Q system. http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/57352751/9b34e4e9bdce4a4e845484a67d6cdd85 After the RX100 release Pentax Q was completely odd choice.

03-03-2016, 01:42 AM	#69
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	67 posts before Sony was invoked. Monochrome was right, it seems.

03-03-2016, 02:50 AM	#70
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by Emacs After the RX100 release Pentax Q was completely odd choice. Two completely different cameras offering different benefits (and compromises)... much like the OP's LX100 vs Q... apples and oranges.

03-03-2016, 03:03 AM - 1 Like	#71
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	Nice image, though when I pixel peep, its also smudgey like all small sensors. Q is what it is. (small sensor, MILC ) There is no perfect camera, just use it to its strength.... This one from a good friend of mine... Fluidr / Bernard Yeo's "Pentax-08 Wide Zoom" set My own use. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/233063-tokyo-story-pentax-q7...ld-review.html https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/194467-pentax-q-real-world-user-review.html https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/256302-pentax-outing-more-q-...pressions.html

03-03-2016, 06:48 AM - 1 Like	#72
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by mklives To make up for my silliness, here is a video I filmed in Japan. It's a bit slow, but the music should help you get through it. Watch in 1080p. Beautiful Japan - YouTube Nice. Thanks for sharing. The music and video worked well together.

03-03-2016, 11:31 PM	#73
mklives Junior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 38 Original Poster	Originally posted by johnmflores Nice. Thanks for sharing. The music and video worked well together. Thanks. Shot on LX100. The original 4k clips are much sharper but I downscaled them to 1080p using a free program that doesn't do a great job. Then edited simply using Apple's iMovie. First movie I've made.

03-03-2016, 11:55 PM	#74
drypenn Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 963	Originally posted by mklives Thanks. Shot on LX100. The original 4k clips are much sharper but I downscaled them to 1080p using a free program that doesn't do a great job. Then edited simply using Apple's iMovie. First movie I've made. Impressive as a first movie. I probably can never make a decent movie even if my life depends on one!

03-06-2016, 08:29 AM	#75
shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047	Originally posted by pinholecam Nice image, though when I pixel peep, its also smudgey like all small sensors. Q is what it is. (small sensor, MILC ) There is no perfect camera, just use it to its strength.... This one from a good friend of mine... Fluidr / Bernard Yeo's "Pentax-08 Wide Zoom" set My own use. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/233063-tokyo-story-pentax-q7...ld-review.html https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/194467-pentax-q-real-world-user-review.html https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/256302-pentax-outing-more-q-...pressions.html Those 08 photos are amazing. I need to get a Q7 and 08 again