New Zenit Lenses

bertwert · 04-19-2016, 07:55 AM

Zenit is Back! First Look at New 50mm f/0.95, 50mm f/1.2, and 85mm f/1.2

No idea which mounts though...

Na Horuk · 04-19-2016, 08:00 AM

Wow, 50mm f0.95 for E mount? Big lenses.
Really interesting times. We see new Korean, Chinese, and Russian lenses - and they are not terrible! In fact, they often fill holes in existing lens lineups of some manufacturers. I hope these Zenit lenses come for Pentax K, but they might be made for mirrorless, narrow register distance or even rangefinder cameras.

bertwert · 04-19-2016, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Na Horuk

I hope these Zenit lenses come for Pentax K, but they might be made for mirrorless, narrow register distance or even rangefinder cameras.

Looks like the 50/1.2 and 85/1.2 are for DSLRS as they mention Canikon but they don't mention Pentax at all. Just the 50/0.95 is for mirrorless.

Audi 5 cyl · 04-19-2016, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by bertwert

Zenit is Back! First Look at New 50mm f/0.95, 50mm f/1.2, and 85mm f/1.2

No idea which mounts though...

Fastest one is only mirror-less compatible (maybe modifiable for dslr use, but I do not think infinity will be an option in this case), the other two are ok for FF dslrs. Were designed for Nikon and Canon I guess (at least the photos tell that) but protruding rear lens element tells us that it will be fine with Pentax too. Whether it will be offered in k-mount as well, that is the question.

Now if I could only get my hands on an APO Telezenitar 300 f/4.5 (exists in K-mount), would not really mind skipping on the fast ones.

ogl · 04-19-2016, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by bertwert

Zenit is Back! First Look at New 50mm f/0.95, 50mm f/1.2, and 85mm f/1.2

No idea which mounts though...

No bayonet K

Zenitar 50mm f/0.95 is E-mount.
50/1,2 and 85/1,2 are Canon and Nikon and E mounts.

To say honest - no serial products at all, just intentions if the orders will be real

The prices are from 500 till 600 USD.

Samples from E-mount 50/0/95
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/KjMT/PE9mT7NnC

Giklab · 04-19-2016, 08:36 AM

Some Soviet/Russian optics are or were being made in m42, but these look like new(er) offerings. Somehow, I doubt we'll be seeing them for Pentax.

ogl · 04-19-2016, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by bertwert

Looks like the 50/1.2 and 85/1.2 are for DSLRS as they mention Canikon but they don't mention Pentax at all. Just the 50/0.95 is for mirrorless.

The production is planned on 2017. As for another mounts - maybe someday...

Will we see all this lenses on 2017? Only God knows...

pathdoc · 04-19-2016, 12:12 PM

If it's suitable for Nikon, it's doable for Pentax - whether in K mount or M42. The registration distance difference is not that much. If it'd been RF or MILC, that would have been a different matter.

Zenit used to do M42, didn't they? I can easily see them being persuaded to do that, and if that's possible then half a loaf is better than no bread.

**BigMackCam** · 04-19-2016, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by pathdoc

Zenit used to do M42, didn't they? I can easily see them being persuaded to do that, and if that's possible then half a loaf is better than no bread.

Zenit did numerous M42 lenses, and even some K-mount too

bertwert · 04-19-2016, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by pathdoc

Zenit used to do M42, didn't they? I can easily see them being persuaded to do that, and if that's possible then half a loaf is better than no bread.

Yep, they also did K-mount:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenit_(camera)#Zenit-Ax_line_.28Pentax_K_mount_cameras.29

ogl · 04-19-2016, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

Yep, they also did K-mount:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenit_(camera)#Zenit-Ax_line_.28Pentax_K_mount_cameras.29

It's history already

I had such camera - Zenit KM

---------- Post added 04-19-2016 at 10:21 PM ----------

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Zenit did numerous M42 lenses, and even some K-mount too

New lenses have no M42. Alas...

**Spodeworld** · 04-20-2016, 06:02 AM

Looks so interesting, but wouldn't it be really hard to nail manual focus at such wide apertures?

Na Horuk · 04-20-2016, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by Spodeworld

Looks so interesting, but wouldn't it be really hard to nail manual focus at such wide apertures?

Yeah, definitely. I think anyone that wants to use a real f1.2 or faster lens pretty much has to use a custom focusing screen, possibly a viewfinder loupe, and really work hard on their focusing skills.
Or just put it onto a film SLR with a big ol' viewfinder.

**lmd91343** · 04-20-2016, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Spodeworld

Looks so interesting, but wouldn't it be really hard to nail manual focus at such wide apertures?

Yes.

I have had grief trying to hit accurate focus at f 0.95. That is with the lens being perfectly collimated, the lens mount registration distance exact, and the RF matching horizontally and vertically at infinity and three feet. I can easily hit focus at f 1.2 on that lens and on my f 1.5 lens. That said, it is much easier at medium and long distance than at portrait distance.

But with digital you can get instant feedback and try again!

04-19-2016, 07:55 AM	#1
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,173	New Zenit Lenses Zenit is Back! First Look at New 50mm f/0.95, 50mm f/1.2, and 85mm f/1.2 No idea which mounts though...

04-19-2016, 08:00 AM	#2
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Wow, 50mm f0.95 for E mount? Big lenses. Really interesting times. We see new Korean, Chinese, and Russian lenses - and they are not terrible! In fact, they often fill holes in existing lens lineups of some manufacturers. I hope these Zenit lenses come for Pentax K, but they might be made for mirrorless, narrow register distance or even rangefinder cameras. Last edited by Na Horuk; 04-19-2016 at 08:08 AM.

04-19-2016, 08:36 AM	#5
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by bertwert Zenit is Back! First Look at New 50mm f/0.95, 50mm f/1.2, and 85mm f/1.2 No idea which mounts though... No bayonet K Zenitar 50mm f/0.95 is E-mount. 50/1,2 and 85/1,2 are Canon and Nikon and E mounts. To say honest - no serial products at all, just intentions if the orders will be real The prices are from 500 till 600 USD. Samples from E-mount 50/0/95 https://cloud.mail.ru/public/KjMT/PE9mT7NnC Last edited by ogl; 04-19-2016 at 08:47 AM.

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04-19-2016, 08:13 AM	#3
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,173 Original Poster	Originally posted by Na Horuk I hope these Zenit lenses come for Pentax K, but they might be made for mirrorless, narrow register distance or even rangefinder cameras. Looks like the 50/1.2 and 85/1.2 are for DSLRS as they mention Canikon but they don't mention Pentax at all. Just the 50/0.95 is for mirrorless.

04-19-2016, 08:14 AM	#4
Audi 5 cyl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: France Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 363	Originally posted by bertwert Zenit is Back! First Look at New 50mm f/0.95, 50mm f/1.2, and 85mm f/1.2 No idea which mounts though... Fastest one is only mirror-less compatible (maybe modifiable for dslr use, but I do not think infinity will be an option in this case), the other two are ok for FF dslrs. Were designed for Nikon and Canon I guess (at least the photos tell that) but protruding rear lens element tells us that it will be fine with Pentax too. Whether it will be offered in k-mount as well, that is the question. Now if I could only get my hands on an APO Telezenitar 300 f/4.5 (exists in K-mount), would not really mind skipping on the fast ones.

04-19-2016, 08:36 AM	#6
Giklab Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,182	Some Soviet/Russian optics are or were being made in m42, but these look like new(er) offerings. Somehow, I doubt we'll be seeing them for Pentax.

04-19-2016, 08:50 AM	#7
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by bertwert Looks like the 50/1.2 and 85/1.2 are for DSLRS as they mention Canikon but they don't mention Pentax at all. Just the 50/0.95 is for mirrorless. The production is planned on 2017. As for another mounts - maybe someday... Will we see all this lenses on 2017? Only God knows...

04-19-2016, 12:12 PM	#8
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	If it's suitable for Nikon, it's doable for Pentax - whether in K mount or M42. The registration distance difference is not that much. If it'd been RF or MILC, that would have been a different matter. Zenit used to do M42, didn't they? I can easily see them being persuaded to do that, and if that's possible then half a loaf is better than no bread.

04-19-2016, 12:14 PM	#9
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,669	Originally posted by pathdoc Zenit used to do M42, didn't they? I can easily see them being persuaded to do that, and if that's possible then half a loaf is better than no bread. Zenit did numerous M42 lenses, and even some K-mount too

04-19-2016, 12:16 PM	#10
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,173 Original Poster	Originally posted by pathdoc Zenit used to do M42, didn't they? I can easily see them being persuaded to do that, and if that's possible then half a loaf is better than no bread. Yep, they also did K-mount: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenit_(camera)#Zenit-Ax_line_.28Pentax_K_mount_cameras.29

04-19-2016, 10:20 PM	#11
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by bertwert Yep, they also did K-mount: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenit_(camera)#Zenit-Ax_line_.28Pentax_K_mount_cameras.29 It's history already I had such camera - Zenit KM ---------- Post added 04-19-2016 at 10:21 PM ---------- Originally posted by BigMackCam Zenit did numerous M42 lenses, and even some K-mount too New lenses have no M42. Alas...

04-20-2016, 06:02 AM	#12
Spodeworld Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Joisey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,370	Looks so interesting, but wouldn't it be really hard to nail manual focus at such wide apertures?

04-20-2016, 07:51 AM	#13
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Originally posted by Spodeworld Looks so interesting, but wouldn't it be really hard to nail manual focus at such wide apertures? Yeah, definitely. I think anyone that wants to use a real f1.2 or faster lens pretty much has to use a custom focusing screen, possibly a viewfinder loupe, and really work hard on their focusing skills. Or just put it onto a film SLR with a big ol' viewfinder.

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lmd91343 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,027	Originally posted by Spodeworld Looks so interesting, but wouldn't it be really hard to nail manual focus at such wide apertures? Yes. I have had grief trying to hit accurate focus at f 0.95. That is with the lens being perfectly collimated, the lens mount registration distance exact, and the RF matching horizontally and vertically at infinity and three feet. I can easily hit focus at f 1.2 on that lens and on my f 1.5 lens. That said, it is much easier at medium and long distance than at portrait distance. But with digital you can get instant feedback and try again!