Nikon D500 ?

surfar · 05-09-2017, 01:24 AM

It looks a lot smaller than a K1....which weighs a lot with the 70/200....

Great shots of those gridiron(is that still the name,k1...k3.... K5 hike) players!

micromacro · 05-09-2017, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by surfar

It looks a lot smaller than a K1....which weighs a lot with the 70/200....

I compared weight of both cameras with telephoto lenses. It's pretty much the same weight to carry with those setups I compared.

micromacro · 05-13-2017, 07:15 PM

I got a chance to try D500 with NIkkor 200-500mm f5.6. I've not seen pictures yet since my laptop does not fit xqd card, and my friend forgot the card reader to bring. We plan to check all images tomorrow.

Hard to compare since it's unknown camera, but the first impression was very positive. The release button is so sensitive and quiet, and the burst is so fast. I know that I missed lot of shoots, especially when panning, but it's because of the lens weight hand held, mostly it will be motion blur, I believe.
The ergonomics however is great, the grip is deep and comfortable, and the lens is very comfortable to hold. I enjoyed it first half an hour, then my arm got tired.
Which is bad is the fact that now I want 500mm lens

**luftfluss** · 05-14-2017, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by micromacro

The ergonomics however is great, the grip is deep and comfortable, and the lens is very comfortable to hold. I enjoyed it first half an hour, then my arm got tired.
Which is bad is the fact that now I want 500mm lens

No pain, no gain.

micromacro · 05-15-2017, 07:01 AM

I checked pictures yesterday. Shooting 500mm hand held was not a good idea for me. Almost every picture has motion blur. As for focusing, yes, I got in focus a few fast birds flying toward me. When in sports mode, AF is searching fast. The photographer, however, was not that good. At least I know now that 500mm hand held is too much for me.
I'm thinking if investing about $3K (for the start) in HOBBY is very bright idea. I should give up K-1 for it, but I don't want to.

**luftfluss** · 05-15-2017, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by micromacro

I checked pictures yesterday. Shooting 500mm hand held was not a good idea for me. Almost every picture has motion blur. As for focusing, yes, I got in focus a few fast birds flying toward me. When in sports mode, AF is searching fast. The photographer, however, was not that good. At least I know now that 500mm hand held is too much for me.
I'm thinking if investing about $3K (for the start) in HOBBY is very bright idea. I should give up K-1 for it, but I don't want to.

What shutter speeds were you using? I found the VR on the 200-500 to be impressive.

Don't be discouraged; in my experience, it can take weeks or even months to learn a new long tele lens.

micromacro · 05-15-2017, 08:27 AM

I've been using mostly above 1/1000, but the blur was no doubt from my hands. My left hand is still hurting a bit, and the right arm got swollen next day. Even monopod would be handy, but it was my decision to test the weight as well.
And I also choose challenging location, with fast passing birds in any direction, unpredictable. Got lots of cormorants landing on water, and taking off. Actually, more than usually with K-1, I have to admit.

**luftfluss** · 05-15-2017, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by micromacro

I've been using mostly above 1/1000, but the blur was no doubt from my hands. My left hand is still hurting a bit, and the right arm got swollen next day. Even monopod would be handy, but it was my decision to test the weight as well.

Oy. That much pain isn't good. Have you considered a K-3 + DA* 300/4 + 1.4TC, or even the Nikon equivalent?

I don't know if there's a great solution, given your parameters.

micromacro · 05-15-2017, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

Oy. That much pain isn't good. Have you considered a K-3 + DA* 300/4 + 1.4TC, or even the Nikon equivalent?

That's my limit for now: DA*300+TC with K-1 and K5iis. I'm glad that I got a chance to test 500mm zoom. I can handle it, but only with monopod at least, better with tripod. Nikon has lighter zooms however. Are they good as DA*300mm? Not sure.

**luftfluss** · 05-16-2017, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by micromacro

That's my limit for now: DA*300+TC with K-1 and K5iis. I'm glad that I got a chance to test 500mm zoom. I can handle it, but only with monopod at least, better with tripod. Nikon has lighter zooms however. Are they good as DA*300mm? Not sure.

AFAIK, the other popular high performance zoom is the 80-400, but I doubt it's sharper at the long end than the DA 300/4 + TC... and is it long enough for your needs, anyway?

Maybe your best best is to see what kind of AF performance the K-3 II successor brings.

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05-09-2017, 01:24 AM	#16
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,142	It looks a lot smaller than a K1....which weighs a lot with the 70/200.... Great shots of those gridiron(is that still the name,k1...k3.... K5 hike) players!

05-09-2017, 07:13 AM	#17
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722	Originally posted by surfar It looks a lot smaller than a K1....which weighs a lot with the 70/200.... I compared weight of both cameras with telephoto lenses. It's pretty much the same weight to carry with those setups I compared.

05-13-2017, 07:15 PM	#18
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722	I got a chance to try D500 with NIkkor 200-500mm f5.6. I've not seen pictures yet since my laptop does not fit xqd card, and my friend forgot the card reader to bring. We plan to check all images tomorrow. Hard to compare since it's unknown camera, but the first impression was very positive. The release button is so sensitive and quiet, and the burst is so fast. I know that I missed lot of shoots, especially when panning, but it's because of the lens weight hand held, mostly it will be motion blur, I believe. The ergonomics however is great, the grip is deep and comfortable, and the lens is very comfortable to hold. I enjoyed it first half an hour, then my arm got tired. Which is bad is the fact that now I want 500mm lens

05-14-2017, 07:40 PM	#19
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	Originally posted by micromacro The ergonomics however is great, the grip is deep and comfortable, and the lens is very comfortable to hold. I enjoyed it first half an hour, then my arm got tired. Which is bad is the fact that now I want 500mm lens No pain, no gain.

05-15-2017, 07:01 AM	#20
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722	I checked pictures yesterday. Shooting 500mm hand held was not a good idea for me. Almost every picture has motion blur. As for focusing, yes, I got in focus a few fast birds flying toward me. When in sports mode, AF is searching fast. The photographer, however, was not that good. At least I know now that 500mm hand held is too much for me. I'm thinking if investing about $3K (for the start) in HOBBY is very bright idea. I should give up K-1 for it, but I don't want to.

05-15-2017, 07:37 AM	#21
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	Originally posted by micromacro I checked pictures yesterday. Shooting 500mm hand held was not a good idea for me. Almost every picture has motion blur. As for focusing, yes, I got in focus a few fast birds flying toward me. When in sports mode, AF is searching fast. The photographer, however, was not that good. At least I know now that 500mm hand held is too much for me. I'm thinking if investing about $3K (for the start) in HOBBY is very bright idea. I should give up K-1 for it, but I don't want to. What shutter speeds were you using? I found the VR on the 200-500 to be impressive. Don't be discouraged; in my experience, it can take weeks or even months to learn a new long tele lens.

05-15-2017, 08:27 AM	#22
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722	I've been using mostly above 1/1000, but the blur was no doubt from my hands. My left hand is still hurting a bit, and the right arm got swollen next day. Even monopod would be handy, but it was my decision to test the weight as well. And I also choose challenging location, with fast passing birds in any direction, unpredictable. Got lots of cormorants landing on water, and taking off. Actually, more than usually with K-1, I have to admit.

05-15-2017, 09:33 AM	#23
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	Originally posted by micromacro I've been using mostly above 1/1000, but the blur was no doubt from my hands. My left hand is still hurting a bit, and the right arm got swollen next day. Even monopod would be handy, but it was my decision to test the weight as well. Oy. That much pain isn't good. Have you considered a K-3 + DA* 300/4 + 1.4TC, or even the Nikon equivalent? I don't know if there's a great solution, given your parameters.

05-15-2017, 10:34 AM	#24
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722	Originally posted by luftfluss Oy. That much pain isn't good. Have you considered a K-3 + DA* 300/4 + 1.4TC, or even the Nikon equivalent? That's my limit for now: DA300+TC with K-1 and K5iis. I'm glad that I got a chance to test 500mm zoom. I can handle it, but only with monopod at least, better with tripod. Nikon has lighter zooms however. Are they good as DA300mm? Not sure.

05-16-2017, 07:11 AM	#25
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	Originally posted by micromacro That's my limit for now: DA300+TC with K-1 and K5iis. I'm glad that I got a chance to test 500mm zoom. I can handle it, but only with monopod at least, better with tripod. Nikon has lighter zooms however. Are they good as DA300mm? Not sure. AFAIK, the other popular high performance zoom is the 80-400, but I doubt it's sharper at the long end than the DA 300/4 + TC... and is it long enough for your needs, anyway? Maybe your best best is to see what kind of AF performance the K-3 II successor brings.