Sony A9 Officially Announced Today

Winder · 04-19-2017, 08:10 AM

Sony?s new A9 announced! | sonyalpharumors

HarisF1 · 04-19-2017, 08:18 AM

I really like the sound of that 24MP full frame sensor - Can we borrow it?

normhead · 04-19-2017, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by Winder

Sony?s new A9 announced! | sonyalpharumors

Looks like an awesome piece of equipment, if you are into that kind of thing. 20 FPS at 24 MP, they just don't seem to be able to break that 24 MP barrier for a high frame rate.

If it can really do 60 AF/AE calculations per second and fire off 20 frames while doing it, that will be quite impressive. To bad about the EVF.

The price puts it in 1Dx /D4 country without the lenses.

AN impressive piece of technology, but, it's market is high end Canon and Nikon users, and they're going to have to offer an awful lot more than one body and a 100-400 lens to get those guys to switch. They are aiming at a very small part of a very small market.

pathdoc · 04-19-2017, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by normhead

it's market is high end Canon and Nikon users

...and Minolta Dynax/Maxxum film shooters still longing for the glory days (does this remind you of anyone?).

Winder · 04-19-2017, 08:48 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

Looks like an awesome piece of equipment, if you are into that kind of thing. 20 FPS at 24 MP, they just don't seem to be able to break that 24 MP barrier for a high frame rate.

If it can really do 60 AF/AE calculations per second and fire off 20 frames while doing it, that will be quite impressive. To bad about the EVF.

The price puts it in 1Dx /D4 country without the lenses.

AN impressive piece of technology, but, it's market is high end Canon and Nikon users, and they're going to have to offer an awful lot more than one body and a 100-400 lens to get those guys to switch. They are aiming at a very small part of a very small market.

Its good to see they type of technology that will trickle down to K-mount users in 10 years.

The Squirrel Mafia · 04-19-2017, 09:40 AM

This is waaaaaaaaaaay too expensive for me, but it does look very impressive.

I highly doubt that the majority of heavily invested Canon & Nikon shooters will migrate to the A9, but this could be a game changer in the entire imaging business as far as the performance between DSLR & mirrorless cameras go. Sony is really pushing the mirrorless limits to the extreme here.

**BigMackCam** · 04-19-2017, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by normhead

they're going to have to offer an awful lot more than one body and a 100-400 lens to get those guys to switch.

Don't forget that Sony offers the LA-EA3 and 4 A-mount to E-mount adapters, and there's still a good amount of very good A-mount / Minolta AF glass available. Depending on how well the A9 integrates with those adapters, and if it offers the same or similar performance when using them, that offers a much wider choice of glass over and above native E-mount. I use quite a bit of A-mount glass on my A7II... the performance and handling are good.

Winder · 04-19-2017, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

Sony is really pushing the mirrorless limits to the extreme here.

They are and that is good. I have an A7II and will probably sell it and buy the A9. I need to see more, but it looks like Sony had listened to their users and checked all the boxes.

biz-engineer · 04-19-2017, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by normhead

Looks like an awesome piece of equipment, if you are into that kind of thing. 20 FPS at 24 MP, they just don't seem to be able to break that 24 MP barrier for a high frame rate. If it can really do 60 AF/AE calculations per second and fire off 20 frames while doing it, that will be quite impressive. To bad about the EVF. The price puts it in 1Dx /D4 country without the lenses. AN impressive piece of technology, but, it's market is high end Canon and Nikon users, and they're going to have to offer an awful lot more than one body and a 100-400 lens to get those guys to switch. They are aiming at a very small part of a very small market.

It's a technology show off, sensor/processor centered, the rest of the camera system having flaws and who wants to pay this price?
This is very good news, it's raising the bar in terms of speed of sensors and image processing, going to stir the performance of lower priced camera bodies into the territory of 10 FPS for our enjoyment.
Nikon, Canon being challenged, (Pentax? maybe if they haven't dropped the ball in the meantime).

Originally posted by Winder

it looks like Sony had listened to their users and checked all the boxes.

Did Sony users ask for 20 FPS ?

beholder3 · 04-19-2017, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by normhead

20 FPS at 24 MP, they just don't seem to be able to break that 24 MP barrier for a high frame rate.

They are just 3 years behind the curve for these types of viewfinderless cameras.
Samsung had that type of processing with 28 MPx / 15 FPS in 2014.

And they have to pay the price with a meagre 480 shots per new large battery, which has more than twice the capacity of the old thingies.

5.300 EUR is a lot for a toy.

**BigMackCam** · 04-19-2017, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

a toy.

What makes it a toy, do you think?

beholder3 · 04-19-2017, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

What makes it a toy, do you think?

Everything. Its a Sony Alpha. It's a camera with a crappy viewfinder surrogate. There is no basis to assume Sony suddenly found out how to build cameras, which are not a pathetic joke.

**BigMackCam** · 04-19-2017, 10:41 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by beholder3

Everything. Its a Sony Alpha. It's a camera with a crappy viewfinder surrogate. There is no basis to assume Sony suddenly found out how to build cameras, which are not a pathetic joke.

LOL

Thanks for that balanced appraisal

**mattb123** · 04-19-2017, 10:43 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by beholder3

Everything. Its a Sony Alpha. It's a camera with a crappy viewfinder surrogate. There is no basis to assume Sony suddenly found out how to build cameras, which are not a pathetic joke.

Yet it's "funny" how well they seem to do with these jokes!

biz-engineer · 04-19-2017, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

5.300 EUR is a lot for a toy.

Marketing flash is successful. Being a proud owner of a9 to show off, yes, that's what it's about if you see that the A9 uses USH II SD cards, at 20 FPS it's going to clog at some point.
It's a marketing company, marketing works.

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normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Winder Sony?s new A9 announced! \| sonyalpharumors Looks like an awesome piece of equipment, if you are into that kind of thing. 20 FPS at 24 MP, they just don't seem to be able to break that 24 MP barrier for a high frame rate. If it can really do 60 AF/AE calculations per second and fire off 20 frames while doing it, that will be quite impressive. To bad about the EVF. The price puts it in 1Dx /D4 country without the lenses. AN impressive piece of technology, but, it's market is high end Canon and Nikon users, and they're going to have to offer an awful lot more than one body and a 100-400 lens to get those guys to switch. They are aiming at a very small part of a very small market. Last edited by normhead; 04-19-2017 at 08:28 AM.

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04-19-2017, 08:18 AM	#2
HarisF1 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 543	I really like the sound of that 24MP full frame sensor - Can we borrow it?

04-19-2017, 08:48 AM	#4
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Originally posted by normhead it's market is high end Canon and Nikon users ...and Minolta Dynax/Maxxum film shooters still longing for the glory days (does this remind you of anyone?).

04-19-2017, 08:48 AM - 1 Like	#5
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	Originally posted by normhead Looks like an awesome piece of equipment, if you are into that kind of thing. 20 FPS at 24 MP, they just don't seem to be able to break that 24 MP barrier for a high frame rate. If it can really do 60 AF/AE calculations per second and fire off 20 frames while doing it, that will be quite impressive. To bad about the EVF. The price puts it in 1Dx /D4 country without the lenses. AN impressive piece of technology, but, it's market is high end Canon and Nikon users, and they're going to have to offer an awful lot more than one body and a 100-400 lens to get those guys to switch. They are aiming at a very small part of a very small market. Its good to see they type of technology that will trickle down to K-mount users in 10 years.

04-19-2017, 09:40 AM	#6
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	This is waaaaaaaaaaay too expensive for me, but it does look very impressive. I highly doubt that the majority of heavily invested Canon & Nikon shooters will migrate to the A9, but this could be a game changer in the entire imaging business as far as the performance between DSLR & mirrorless cameras go. Sony is really pushing the mirrorless limits to the extreme here.

04-19-2017, 10:02 AM	#7
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by normhead they're going to have to offer an awful lot more than one body and a 100-400 lens to get those guys to switch. Don't forget that Sony offers the LA-EA3 and 4 A-mount to E-mount adapters, and there's still a good amount of very good A-mount / Minolta AF glass available. Depending on how well the A9 integrates with those adapters, and if it offers the same or similar performance when using them, that offers a much wider choice of glass over and above native E-mount. I use quite a bit of A-mount glass on my A7II... the performance and handling are good.

04-19-2017, 10:05 AM	#8
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia Sony is really pushing the mirrorless limits to the extreme here. They are and that is good. I have an A7II and will probably sell it and buy the A9. I need to see more, but it looks like Sony had listened to their users and checked all the boxes.

04-19-2017, 10:15 AM	#9
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by normhead Looks like an awesome piece of equipment, if you are into that kind of thing. 20 FPS at 24 MP, they just don't seem to be able to break that 24 MP barrier for a high frame rate. If it can really do 60 AF/AE calculations per second and fire off 20 frames while doing it, that will be quite impressive. To bad about the EVF. The price puts it in 1Dx /D4 country without the lenses. AN impressive piece of technology, but, it's market is high end Canon and Nikon users, and they're going to have to offer an awful lot more than one body and a 100-400 lens to get those guys to switch. They are aiming at a very small part of a very small market. It's a technology show off, sensor/processor centered, the rest of the camera system having flaws and who wants to pay this price? This is very good news, it's raising the bar in terms of speed of sensors and image processing, going to stir the performance of lower priced camera bodies into the territory of 10 FPS for our enjoyment. Nikon, Canon being challenged, (Pentax? maybe if they haven't dropped the ball in the meantime). Originally posted by Winder it looks like Sony had listened to their users and checked all the boxes. Did Sony users ask for 20 FPS ?

04-19-2017, 10:31 AM	#10
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by normhead 20 FPS at 24 MP, they just don't seem to be able to break that 24 MP barrier for a high frame rate. They are just 3 years behind the curve for these types of viewfinderless cameras. Samsung had that type of processing with 28 MPx / 15 FPS in 2014. And they have to pay the price with a meagre 480 shots per new large battery, which has more than twice the capacity of the old thingies. 5.300 EUR is a lot for a toy.

04-19-2017, 10:34 AM	#11
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by beholder3 a toy. What makes it a toy, do you think?

04-19-2017, 10:37 AM	#12
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by BigMackCam What makes it a toy, do you think? Everything. Its a Sony Alpha. It's a camera with a crappy viewfinder surrogate. There is no basis to assume Sony suddenly found out how to build cameras, which are not a pathetic joke.

04-19-2017, 10:41 AM - 3 Likes	#13
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by beholder3 Everything. Its a Sony Alpha. It's a camera with a crappy viewfinder surrogate. There is no basis to assume Sony suddenly found out how to build cameras, which are not a pathetic joke. LOL Thanks for that balanced appraisal

04-19-2017, 10:43 AM - 1 Like	#14
mattb123 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado High Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,872	Originally posted by beholder3 Everything. Its a Sony Alpha. It's a camera with a crappy viewfinder surrogate. There is no basis to assume Sony suddenly found out how to build cameras, which are not a pathetic joke. Yet it's "funny" how well they seem to do with these jokes!

04-19-2017, 10:47 AM	#15
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by beholder3 5.300 EUR is a lot for a toy. Marketing flash is successful. Being a proud owner of a9 to show off, yes, that's what it's about if you see that the A9 uses USH II SD cards, at 20 FPS it's going to clog at some point. It's a marketing company, marketing works.