$$$$$ony A7iii

**clackers** · 03-03-2018, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Hows this one Claka?....Shipsterns Bluff,Van Diemens Land!

Yeah, absolutely love it, Surfar!

It doesn't have rule of thirds composition and is all the better for it, BTW.

Last edited by clackers; 03-04-2018 at 12:39 AM.

surfar · 03-04-2018, 09:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by landofcourtness

Some people have mentioned a E-mount adapter, that allows for AF on K-mount adapted lenses... does anyone have a link to/for this??? I have been searching for what options might be out there.

Youtu.be

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This is new, no reference to K mount because most people buying into Sony and M43 are coming from caNik.

A small point from the Focal Reducer thing, its a 1.4x crop from FF lens to M43 sensor
Also, theres a few AF adapters for Fuji X mount that seem to work well with EF and Nikon glass.

mee · 03-04-2018, 10:46 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by surfar

Mirrorless Adapters 2018 Update (Metabones, Sigma, Commlite) - YouTube
....................................................................
This is new, no reference to K mount because most people buying into Sony and M43 are coming from caNik.

A small point from the Focal Reducer thing, its a 1.4x crop from FF lens to M43 sensor
Also, theres a few AF adapters for Fuji X mount that seem to work well with EF and Nikon glass.

Thanks for sharing that.. I went on a brief trip on the interwebs looking for something similar the other day. This is nice and tidy..

I think Canon might have been easier to crack? There seem to be a number of fairly matured and further maturing autofocus EF adapters... that or just the sheer number of potential buyers meant adapter manufacturers dedicated their efforts on Canon EF mount lens adapers for Sony bodies.

Strangely, to me, not many Nikon autofocus-enabled adapters.. actually that Commlite referenced might be the only one. There is a fotodiox fusion adapter too but that is just a rebranded commlite iirc. The original one appeared to have bricked at least 2 sony cameras during youtube reviews of the adapter. oops.

Between that and the review here, I think they still have a long way to go on F mount.

Culture · 03-05-2018, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by surfar

Just look at TechArt Pro....and Fotodiox....the adapters are the same,work with the same firmware.

They both natively work with Leica lenses but you just use a Leica to K mount as well.

Plenty of Youtube, both say not to use lenses heavier than 700g but theres a YT showing a Nikon 400mm f2.8 on a monopod,its 2.8kgs.

---------- Post added 03-04-18 at 02:40 PM ----------

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Some discussion here New Fotodiox PRONTO Leica M to Sony autofocus adapter: Sony Alpha Full Frame E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Apparently, the Fotodiox firmware cannot be updated. The Techart can.

If I was to buy the A7III I think will use it with three lenses that are below 700g.
It will be nice to see how my Samyang 85 f1.4 will do on that.

surfar · 03-05-2018, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by Culture

Apparently, the Fotodiox firmware cannot be updated. The Techart can.

They are the same adapter, Foto copied TAP exactly....version 5 of the TAP can be installed on Foto.Theres a youtube.

Originally posted by Culture

If I was to buy the A7III I think will use it with three lenses that are below 700g.

Thats recommended, however...

Youtu.be

This NIKON is 2.8kgs

surfar · 03-05-2018, 02:52 AM

Youtu.be

Nice if this one comes in K mount too.

Culture · 03-05-2018, 11:21 PM

A more extensive explanation.

You Tube

At this point I think my search is over. Too much trouble to go through for now.
But I will be sleeping with one eye open.

Culture.

surfar · 03-06-2018, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by Culture

But I will be sleeping with one eye open.

Thats a good review,for the time it was relevant.Since that review 3 $$$ony bodies have been revealed and the adapter has had a firmware update.

This discussion is interesting.

Youtu.be

Culture · 03-06-2018, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by surfar

Thats a good review,for the time it was relevant.Since that review 3 $$$ony bodies have been revealed and the adapter has had a firmware update.

This discussion is interesting.

Why you will LOVE the SONY A7 III - YouTube

So when are you going to by yours.
I think we all know that it a great camera.
The question is how to adapt it to the k-mount for it to work well.

reh321 · 03-06-2018, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by mee

Strangely, to me, not many Nikon autofocus-enabled adapters.. actually that Commlite referenced might be the only one. There is a fotodiox fusion adapter too but that is just a rebranded commlite iirc. The original one appeared to have bricked at least 2 sony cameras during youtube reviews of the adapter. oops.

Between that and the review here, I think they still have a long way to go on F mount.

Shouldn't be strange at all. F-mount is like K-mount. Only recent lenses have in-lens focus motor. To provide complete service, the adapter has to provide a focus motor, which is much more difficult that providing the contacts required by the EF-mount.

pinholecam · 03-06-2018, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Mirrorless Adapters 2018 Update (Metabones, Sigma, Commlite) - YouTube
....................................................................
This is new, no reference to K mount because most people buying into Sony and M43 are coming from caNik.

A small point from the Focal Reducer thing, its a 1.4x crop from FF lens to M43 sensor
Also, theres a few AF adapters for Fuji X mount that seem to work well with EF and Nikon glass.

There is a workaround for K mount AF.
People use the M-mount AF adapter and stack on a K mount adapter.
I don't know how well it works though.

surfar · 03-06-2018, 06:57 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pinholecam

I don't know how well it works though.

Heres how well Canon glass works.

Youtu.be

mee · 03-06-2018, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by reh321

Shouldn't be strange at all. F-mount is like K-mount. Only recent lenses have in-lens focus motor. To provide complete service, the adapter has to provide a focus motor, which is much more difficult that providing the contacts required by the EF-mount.

F-mount seems to be a generation ahead on development over K-mount.. at least in terms of introducing in-lens autofocus motors. Perhaps the stripping by Hoya and purchase by Ricoh is the reason. I think when Ricoh introduced HD revisions, is when we should have seen more in-lens motors. But they just didn't have time or the budget to complete such a monumental task.

Not sure any G series lenses are without a motor (AF-S primarily --- ultrasonic motor)

I think most of the older D series lenses, from the early to mid 90s, are closer to a lot of the K mount lenses still on the market (screwdriven).

So the adapter doesn't need to provide a focus motor for a very large amount of Nikon lenses on the market today. As a matter of fact, here is a handy dandy listing of all the available in-focus motor driven Nikon lenses: List of Nikon F-mount lenses with integrated autofocus motor - Wikipedia

I really just think it boils down to Canon having a stranglehold on the market with number of users (and thus potential buyers) and a large selection of desirable lenses. So you have Canon users wanting to adapt their lenses to use on mirrorless bodies (typically Sony) and maybe a few mirrorless users wanting to try out Canon lenses..

Edit: Did you mean electronically controlled aperture instead and not in-lens focus motor like you said? That might make more sense..

mee · 03-06-2018, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Heres how well Canon glass works.

The Sony A7iii will be the Reason Why Many Canon Shooters LEAVE Canon and Switch to Sony Mirrorless - YouTube

Very well from those brief examples. I'm not selling all my gear and getting a Sony, but I am keenly interested in mirrorless camera developments in the next few years. Hopefully someone other than Sony starts taking off with FF mirrorless... Nikon or Pentax preferably. But I doubt Pentax even considers it seriously.. at least in the same context that Sony does.

No autofocus microadjustments, viewfinder exposure representation, focusing aids in the viewfinder, wide focus point coverage, silent shutter.. some nice advantages I think.

surfar · 03-06-2018, 10:40 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

Hopefully someone other than Sony starts taking off with FF mirrorless

Its highly likely that the FF mirrorless war starts around Photokina time,Canon will fire the first shots and NIK will get it ON!

Both Sony and Fuji are into their third generation mirrorless with M43 hanging in with good product,the AF adapters are getting good and thats why M/L are producing positive sales figures.

03-06-2018, 09:22 PM	#58
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by reh321 Shouldn't be strange at all. F-mount is like K-mount. Only recent lenses have in-lens focus motor. To provide complete service, the adapter has to provide a focus motor, which is much more difficult that providing the contacts required by the EF-mount. F-mount seems to be a generation ahead on development over K-mount.. at least in terms of introducing in-lens autofocus motors. Perhaps the stripping by Hoya and purchase by Ricoh is the reason. I think when Ricoh introduced HD revisions, is when we should have seen more in-lens motors. But they just didn't have time or the budget to complete such a monumental task. Not sure any G series lenses are without a motor (AF-S primarily --- ultrasonic motor) I think most of the older D series lenses, from the early to mid 90s, are closer to a lot of the K mount lenses still on the market (screwdriven). So the adapter doesn't need to provide a focus motor for a very large amount of Nikon lenses on the market today. As a matter of fact, here is a handy dandy listing of all the available in-focus motor driven Nikon lenses: List of Nikon F-mount lenses with integrated autofocus motor - Wikipedia I really just think it boils down to Canon having a stranglehold on the market with number of users (and thus potential buyers) and a large selection of desirable lenses. So you have Canon users wanting to adapt their lenses to use on mirrorless bodies (typically Sony) and maybe a few mirrorless users wanting to try out Canon lenses.. Edit: Did you mean electronically controlled aperture instead and not in-lens focus motor like you said? That might make more sense.. Last edited by mee; 03-06-2018 at 09:45 PM.

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03-03-2018, 09:39 PM	#46
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by surfar Hows this one Claka?....Shipsterns Bluff,Van Diemens Land! Yeah, absolutely love it, Surfar! It doesn't have rule of thirds composition and is all the better for it, BTW. Last edited by clackers; 03-04-2018 at 12:39 AM.

03-04-2018, 10:46 PM - 1 Like	#48
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by surfar Mirrorless Adapters 2018 Update (Metabones, Sigma, Commlite) - YouTube .................................................................... This is new, no reference to K mount because most people buying into Sony and M43 are coming from caNik. A small point from the Focal Reducer thing, its a 1.4x crop from FF lens to M43 sensor Also, theres a few AF adapters for Fuji X mount that seem to work well with EF and Nikon glass. Thanks for sharing that.. I went on a brief trip on the interwebs looking for something similar the other day. This is nice and tidy.. I think Canon might have been easier to crack? There seem to be a number of fairly matured and further maturing autofocus EF adapters... that or just the sheer number of potential buyers meant adapter manufacturers dedicated their efforts on Canon EF mount lens adapers for Sony bodies. Strangely, to me, not many Nikon autofocus-enabled adapters.. actually that Commlite referenced might be the only one. There is a fotodiox fusion adapter too but that is just a rebranded commlite iirc. The original one appeared to have bricked at least 2 sony cameras during youtube reviews of the adapter. oops. Between that and the review here, I think they still have a long way to go on F mount.

03-05-2018, 12:34 AM	#49
Culture Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vaasa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 818	Originally posted by surfar Just look at TechArt Pro....and Fotodiox....the adapters are the same,work with the same firmware. They both natively work with Leica lenses but you just use a Leica to K mount as well. Plenty of Youtube, both say not to use lenses heavier than 700g but theres a YT showing a Nikon 400mm f2.8 on a monopod,its 2.8kgs. ---------- Post added 03-04-18 at 02:40 PM ---------- ................................................... Some discussion here New Fotodiox PRONTO Leica M to Sony autofocus adapter: Sony Alpha Full Frame E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review Apparently, the Fotodiox firmware cannot be updated. The Techart can. If I was to buy the A7III I think will use it with three lenses that are below 700g. It will be nice to see how my Samyang 85 f1.4 will do on that.

03-06-2018, 06:07 AM	#54
Culture Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vaasa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 818	Originally posted by surfar Thats a good review,for the time it was relevant.Since that review 3 $$$ony bodies have been revealed and the adapter has had a firmware update. This discussion is interesting. Why you will LOVE the SONY A7 III - YouTube So when are you going to by yours. I think we all know that it a great camera. The question is how to adapt it to the k-mount for it to work well.

03-06-2018, 05:58 PM	#55
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by mee Strangely, to me, not many Nikon autofocus-enabled adapters.. actually that Commlite referenced might be the only one. There is a fotodiox fusion adapter too but that is just a rebranded commlite iirc. The original one appeared to have bricked at least 2 sony cameras during youtube reviews of the adapter. oops. Between that and the review here, I think they still have a long way to go on F mount. Shouldn't be strange at all. F-mount is like K-mount. Only recent lenses have in-lens focus motor. To provide complete service, the adapter has to provide a focus motor, which is much more difficult that providing the contacts required by the EF-mount.

03-06-2018, 06:46 PM	#56
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	Originally posted by surfar Mirrorless Adapters 2018 Update (Metabones, Sigma, Commlite) - YouTube .................................................................... This is new, no reference to K mount because most people buying into Sony and M43 are coming from caNik. A small point from the Focal Reducer thing, its a 1.4x crop from FF lens to M43 sensor Also, theres a few AF adapters for Fuji X mount that seem to work well with EF and Nikon glass. There is a workaround for K mount AF. People use the M-mount AF adapter and stack on a K mount adapter. I don't know how well it works though.

03-06-2018, 09:42 PM	#59
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by surfar Heres how well Canon glass works. The Sony A7iii will be the Reason Why Many Canon Shooters LEAVE Canon and Switch to Sony Mirrorless - YouTube Very well from those brief examples. I'm not selling all my gear and getting a Sony, but I am keenly interested in mirrorless camera developments in the next few years. Hopefully someone other than Sony starts taking off with FF mirrorless... Nikon or Pentax preferably. But I doubt Pentax even considers it seriously.. at least in the same context that Sony does. No autofocus microadjustments, viewfinder exposure representation, focusing aids in the viewfinder, wide focus point coverage, silent shutter.. some nice advantages I think.

03-06-2018, 10:40 PM - 1 Like	#60
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141 Original Poster	Originally posted by mee Hopefully someone other than Sony starts taking off with FF mirrorless Its highly likely that the FF mirrorless war starts around Photokina time,Canon will fire the first shots and NIK will get it ON! Both Sony and Fuji are into their third generation mirrorless with M43 hanging in with good product,the AF adapters are getting good and thats why M/L are producing positive sales figures.