Fuji and Samsung Developing Sensor Tech Together

Winder · 06-28-2018, 05:41 PM

https://www.fujirumors.com/samsung-and-fujifilm-developed-new-cmos-image-sen...olor-fidelity/

surfar · 06-28-2018, 06:36 PM

Yes, Sammy stated earlier this year that they wanted a bigger slice of the "sensor action".

It was 2014ish that the superb NX-1 came on the market,closely followed by the NX 500(baby brother).

Its a waste of good tech for this stuff not to be utilised,Fuji is rumoured to be putting 26 or 28 mpx in the XT-3.I wonder where the sensor is coming from???

bobmaxja · 06-28-2018, 06:43 PM

This is for Smartphone for now.

Quote:

Samsung officially said they are developing a new CMOS sensor technology for mobile photography (smartphones) that allows better pixel isolation and hence improves light sensitivity and color fidelity. Samsung calles it the “ISOCELL Plus” technology.

**Mikesul** · 07-02-2018, 06:49 PM

How reliable is this report?

surfar · 09-07-2018, 02:55 PM

Rumour ONLY @ this stage

Its been bandied about that Samsung are making FF sensors and will sell to all the Japanese Camera makers commencing early 2019

No specific details at this stage.

It was also hinted the Fuji XT3 sensor is a result of the Fuji/Samsung collaboration.

Perhaps RI could source a lower cost/higher capability sensor than what $$$ony will provide?...I hope so.

disconnekt · 09-07-2018, 03:23 PM

If this is true maybe Ricoh can jump into the action with them (buy some sensors from them) & possibly do some collabs with them, especially since Pentax & Samsung did some work with each other not that long ago.

rawr · 09-07-2018, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by disconnekt

do some collabs with them, especially since Pentax & Samsung did some work with each other not that long ago.

But only if the Samsung sensors turn out to be equal to or better than Sony's. Last time Pentax hitched a ride with Samsung, the results were not impressive.

surfar · 09-07-2018, 03:48 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by rawr

Last time Pentax hitched a ride with Samsung, the results were not impressive.

Thats a while ago,plenty of water under the bridge...and wasnt it Sammy riding along doing the hitching?

Originally posted by rawr

But only if the Samsung sensors turn out to be equal to or better than Sony's

Yes,however...the sensors for the cameras evolve from the Smartphone sensors by $$$ony.Samsung has expertise there, as well as the Tech they developed for Apsc after they unhitched from Pentax.

I'd like to see Sammy involved...it would see $$$ony having competition in the camera and sensor fields.Competition breeds progress and thats a major positive for image makers.

disconnekt · 09-07-2018, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Thats a while ago,plenty of water under the bridge...and wasnt it Sammy riding along doing the hitching?

Yes,however...the sensors for the cameras evolve from the Smartphone sensors by $$$ony.Samsung has expertise there, as well as the Tech they developed for Apsc after they unhitched from Pentax.

I'd like to see Sammy involved...it would see $$$ony having competition in the camera and sensor fields.Competition breeds progress and thats a major positive for image makers.

Yeah, Im all for another company to come in & make dslr/mirrorless sensor's to compete against $ony.

surfar · 09-09-2018, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by disconnekt

Im all for another company to come in & make dslr/mirrorless sensor's to compete against $ony.

Looks like the sensor in the Panasonic FF is made by Samsung.

Winder · 09-17-2018, 08:01 AM

https://www.fujirumors.com/samsung-will-supply-aps-c-sensors-to-fujifilm-report-says/

The effective pixel is 28.2 million pixels and the crop sensor. You can shoot up to 6K when playing movie. Supports 10bit 120 frames. h.265 codec support.

In the case of Pentax, it is packaged up to isp. Fuji will receive only sensor …

It is said that the planned delivery price will be 70% of the equivalent Sony sensor.”

reh321 · 09-17-2018, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by rawr

But only if the Samsung sensors turn out to be equal to or better than Sony's.

Three years ago they had a better sensor than what Pentax could get from Sony

Pentax K-3 II vs Samsung NX500

Winder · 09-17-2018, 01:34 PM

Samsung getting back into the game would be huge. It's interesting that Panasonic and Fuji have been working on sensor technology together for a couple of years. It looks like Fuji and Samsung have been working together and Panasoinc and Samsung have been working together. I have not seen anything that suggests that all three are collaborating.

surfar · 09-17-2018, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Winder

I have not seen anything that suggests that all three are collaborating.

Not yet,but lets hope Apsc upgrade follows these rumours,then possibly the FF(but i wouldnt expect that till 2020).

06-28-2018, 05:41 PM	#1
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06-28-2018, 06:36 PM	#2
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,143	Yes, Sammy stated earlier this year that they wanted a bigger slice of the "sensor action". It was 2014ish that the superb NX-1 came on the market,closely followed by the NX 500(baby brother). Its a waste of good tech for this stuff not to be utilised,Fuji is rumoured to be putting 26 or 28 mpx in the XT-3.I wonder where the sensor is coming from???

06-28-2018, 06:43 PM	#3
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	This is for Smartphone for now. Quote: Samsung officially said they are developing a new CMOS sensor technology for mobile photography (smartphones) that allows better pixel isolation and hence improves light sensitivity and color fidelity. Samsung calles it the “ISOCELL Plus” technology.

07-02-2018, 06:49 PM	#4
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	How reliable is this report?

09-07-2018, 02:55 PM	#5
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,143	Rumour ONLY @ this stage Its been bandied about that Samsung are making FF sensors and will sell to all the Japanese Camera makers commencing early 2019 No specific details at this stage. It was also hinted the Fuji XT3 sensor is a result of the Fuji/Samsung collaboration. Perhaps RI could source a lower cost/higher capability sensor than what $$$ony will provide?...I hope so.

09-07-2018, 03:23 PM	#6
disconnekt Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SoCal/I.E. Photos: Albums Posts: 1,701	If this is true maybe Ricoh can jump into the action with them (buy some sensors from them) & possibly do some collabs with them, especially since Pentax & Samsung did some work with each other not that long ago.

09-07-2018, 03:34 PM	#7
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by disconnekt do some collabs with them, especially since Pentax & Samsung did some work with each other not that long ago. But only if the Samsung sensors turn out to be equal to or better than Sony's. Last time Pentax hitched a ride with Samsung, the results were not impressive.

09-07-2018, 03:48 PM - 1 Like	#8
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,143	Originally posted by rawr Last time Pentax hitched a ride with Samsung, the results were not impressive. Thats a while ago,plenty of water under the bridge...and wasnt it Sammy riding along doing the hitching? Originally posted by rawr But only if the Samsung sensors turn out to be equal to or better than Sony's Yes,however...the sensors for the cameras evolve from the Smartphone sensors by $$$ony.Samsung has expertise there, as well as the Tech they developed for Apsc after they unhitched from Pentax. I'd like to see Sammy involved...it would see $$$ony having competition in the camera and sensor fields.Competition breeds progress and thats a major positive for image makers.

09-07-2018, 09:28 PM	#9
disconnekt Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SoCal/I.E. Photos: Albums Posts: 1,701	Originally posted by surfar Thats a while ago,plenty of water under the bridge...and wasnt it Sammy riding along doing the hitching? Yes,however...the sensors for the cameras evolve from the Smartphone sensors by $$$ony.Samsung has expertise there, as well as the Tech they developed for Apsc after they unhitched from Pentax. I'd like to see Sammy involved...it would see $$$ony having competition in the camera and sensor fields.Competition breeds progress and thats a major positive for image makers. Yeah, Im all for another company to come in & make dslr/mirrorless sensor's to compete against $ony.

09-09-2018, 02:38 AM	#10
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,143	Originally posted by disconnekt Im all for another company to come in & make dslr/mirrorless sensor's to compete against $ony. Looks like the sensor in the Panasonic FF is made by Samsung.

09-17-2018, 08:01 AM	#11
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	https://www.fujirumors.com/samsung-will-supply-aps-c-sensors-to-fujifilm-report-says/ The effective pixel is 28.2 million pixels and the crop sensor. You can shoot up to 6K when playing movie. Supports 10bit 120 frames. h.265 codec support. In the case of Pentax, it is packaged up to isp. Fuji will receive only sensor … It is said that the planned delivery price will be 70% of the equivalent Sony sensor.”

09-17-2018, 12:49 PM	#12
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,184	Originally posted by rawr But only if the Samsung sensors turn out to be equal to or better than Sony's. Three years ago they had a better sensor than what Pentax could get from Sony Pentax K-3 II vs Samsung NX500

09-17-2018, 01:34 PM	#13
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	Samsung getting back into the game would be huge. It's interesting that Panasonic and Fuji have been working on sensor technology together for a couple of years. It looks like Fuji and Samsung have been working together and Panasoinc and Samsung have been working together. I have not seen anything that suggests that all three are collaborating.

09-17-2018, 02:21 PM	#14
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,143	Originally posted by Winder I have not seen anything that suggests that all three are collaborating. Not yet,but lets hope Apsc upgrade follows these rumours,then possibly the FF(but i wouldnt expect that till 2020).