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07-11-2018, 12:09 PM   #16
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Once Nikon deploy their new mirrorless system, you might want to sell your Sony system and invest into the Nikon system.
If they do it right..... I will be happy to. I'm not a huge fan of Sony the company. It just a matter of they are the company that best fits my needs at this time. The A9 is a phenomenal camera that gives me excellent results with very little post processing. Can Nikon do better? I hope so. Sony needs competition. Nikon makes some great glass.

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If they do it right..... I will be happy to. I'm not a huge fan of Sony the company. It just a matter of they are the company that best fits my needs at this time. The A9 is a phenomenal camera that gives me excellent results with very little post processing. Can Nikon do better? I hope so. Sony needs competition. Nikon makes some great glass.
But Nikon has the same problem Pentax does, only perhaps more so. Since their users expect every new camera to be compatible with all old lenses, and every new lens to be compatible with every old camera, they crept up, one step at a time, to equivalency with the EF-mount that Canon jumped to thirty years ago. Making an adapter for all that "great glass" could be a real issue
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By the way, why do you care if it generates clicks or not?
Perhaps because I was responding to a comment that mentioned clicks. By the way, why do you care if I care whether it generates clicks or not. You might also ask why I am commenting about your comment on my comment about ChristianRock's comment about the original post.

Perhaps I am bored. I also don't believe my comment was off-topic, though I don't know what the original post has to do with Sony's sensor division.


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My original post questioned the validity of the "leak".

I don't think it's a forbidden question... or that anyone should be offended by it... eventually, we'll see.

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But Nikon has the same problem Pentax does, only perhaps more so. Since their users expect every new camera to be compatible with all old lenses, and every new lens to be compatible with every old camera, they crept up, one step at a time, to equivalency with the EF-mount that Canon jumped to thirty years ago. Making an adapter for all that "great glass" could be a real issue
Nah.

They already had a dress rehearsal with the Nikon 1 series to F mount adapter. Nikon | Imaging Products | Compatible Lens List - Mount Adapter FT1
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My original post questioned the validity of the "leak".

I don't think it's a forbidden question... or that anyone should be offended by it... eventually, we'll see.
I don't know why the OP is sourcing sonyalpharumors when, even on that very article, they refer to the actual source which is nikonrumors. The site owner over there on NR (Peter) apparently got the news from his 'insiders', but he seems to only post news when he is rather confident on it... so it is possible he is right.. I doubt he just pulled the rumor out of the air. I cannot recall him ever doing that before..
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Nah.

They already had a dress rehearsal with the Nikon 1 series to F mount adapter. Nikon | Imaging Products | Compatible Lens List - Mount Adapter FT1
Did you read all the footnotes, all the exceptions?
They say it works "with more than 80 lenses" - but D7200 will work with 230 lenses.
To a diehard Nikon user that would be no more acceptable than eliminating half K-mount lenses would be to a diehard Pentax user.

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Did you read all the footnotes, all the exceptions?
They say it works "with more than 80 lenses" - but D7200 will work with 230 lenses.
To a diehard Nikon user that would be no more acceptable than eliminating half K-mount lenses would be to a diehard Pentax user.
Most of those not on the list are D series and older. Relics.


And from frequenting Nikon places it seems most folks stick to newer lenses (AF-S or better which are mostly supported)... The ones that value the older lenses are more niche... or just old. It seems in F mount a lot of the older glass is inferior to newer designs (example: my 35mm AI lens stopped down is junk compared to even my 24-120 at f/4, a lot of the D series optically weaker than G series).. plus the newer designs gained AF motors... which makes these adapters easier to support.


Also this was, like I said, along the lines of a rehearsal for them. The 1 series were a lower tier category of cameras... when you're launching dual bodies costing over 2 grand and maybe over 3 grand for the higher tier product it is safe to say their adapter will be improved over the one offered for 1 series.


I doubt AI lenses (kind of like A series pentax) actually index on the adapter but with it being mirrorless (and thus having a live view for your eye) it shouldn't be an issue to properly dial in the right settings.


Plus, this is just round one for them on serious DSLR-competitive mirrorless bodies. If they take off and upgrades come online in a few years it will be like the Canon lens to Sony body adapters -- they will improve with time. And we should see third parties too... maybe even a K mount lens to mirrorrless Nikon body adapter. That could be fun.


That said, I don't doubt for a minute that Nikon would love for everyone to rebuy their lenses in the new mirrorless mount... but I'm not concerned about my F mount lenses being adaptable to these upcoming mirrorless bodies. It is a non-issue to me... they'll work.


I'm more interested in if the touted 5-axis IBIS system really comes to fruition and if it is a hardware or a (cheesy) software application.. Canon touted IBIS for the 6d II release too and it ended up being a software system (clips the frame size to mimic stabilization) for video. Super cheese.
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My original post questioned the validity of the "leak".

I don't think it's a forbidden question... or that anyone should be offended by it... eventually, we'll see.
I thought the specs seemed pretty reasonable. If you look at the A7 III, that's about where it is. The only questions have more to do with price and who is making the sensors (and what sort of quality it is).

Lenses are a bit of an after thought for mirrorless cameras. It is understood that you can mount a plethora of lenses on them using an adapter and so folks buy in, even if there are only a few lenses that natively mount on the camera. Personally, I still don't enjoy using EVFs, but plenty of other folks seem to like them so I guess I'll have to figure out how not to get eye strain from them.
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I thought the specs seemed pretty reasonable. If you look at the A7 III, that's about where it is. The only questions have more to do with price and who is making the sensors (and what sort of quality it is).

Lenses are a bit of an after thought for mirrorless cameras. It is understood that you can mount a plethora of lenses on them using an adapter and so folks buy in, even if there are only a few lenses that natively mount on the camera. Personally, I still don't enjoy using EVFs, but plenty of other folks seem to like them so I guess I'll have to figure out how not to get eye strain from them.
The D850 sensor is made by Sony. I would expect that the Nikon mirrorless cameras will also have sensors made by Sony.
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I thought the specs seemed pretty reasonable. If you look at the A7 III, that's about where it is. The only questions have more to do with price and who is making the sensors (and what sort of quality it is).

Lenses are a bit of an after thought for mirrorless cameras. It is understood that you can mount a plethora of lenses on them using an adapter and so folks buy in, even if there are only a few lenses that natively mount on the camera. Personally, I still don't enjoy using EVFs, but plenty of other folks seem to like them so I guess I'll have to figure out how not to get eye strain from them.
We can be sure that this will be a Nikon. I will have Nikon-type controls, use Nikon lenses, and create Nikon 'raw' files.

Nikon users seem quite certain that the official announcement will be around July 23rd and released roughly a month longer. Now we can wait and see how this all works out {and some of us can wish it were a K-02 being announced by Pentax, instead}
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"The promo materials should include dancers."

Oh thank god they kept that feature..
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Price rumours are...45mp @ $4700ish so over a 100 per mp!

....24mp @$2900 so even more

Native lenses??? 24-70mm ...35 and 50mm primes.

Official news around a week away(if ya wanta believe rumours,ha ha ha)!
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Price rumours are...45mp @ $4700ish so over a 100 per mp!

....24mp @$2900 so even more

Native lenses??? 24-70mm ...35 and 50mm primes.

Official news around a week away(if ya wanta believe rumours,ha ha ha)!
Wow that will really pressure Sony to drop their prices...

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The "rumour" always was that the 24mp model was in direct competition with A7iii.

Also a "rumour" is about that says NO canon announcement this year for FF M/L,there will be the M5ii Apsc announcement soon though.
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