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biz-engineer · 08-03-2018, 12:10 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by photoptimist

There's been a lot of nice camera introduced in the last 3 years, but none of them have actually changed the game.

What changed the game was full frame camera for under $2K, only a few years before introduction of the K1. There was a lot of adoption of digital full frame since then. Mirrorless has been there for a very long time: 20 years ago I had a compact camera that was mirrorless, I still have it and it still works, but at that time, having a "reflex" was highly regarded, it's funny how marketing folks can turn things around to make people buy.

That say, I'm still interested to see what Nikon have done in terms of camera capability: ergonomics, battery life, image quality from the sensor and the lenses available. With or without a mirror is not really my concern, as I'm interest to know what photographs can be taken and how much the system costs.

surfar · 08-03-2018, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

I'm interest to know what photographs can be taken and how much the system costs.

Yes, that has my interest too.As well as the moving picture capability???

Whats funny is the HYPE that Nikon are creating with the "teaser" videos.Their body better be GOOD or they will fall flat.Mind you it will sell instead of some $$$onys and some Nikon Dslrs,so there will be some cannibalisation.

rawr · 08-03-2018, 05:30 PM

Judging by the potential size of the new Nikon mirrorless - it looks just about as big as a D850 - many people will ask: what's the point?

At least Sony A-mount to Sony E mount gives you a clear choice about which is the more compact option. E-mount continues to offer [smaller and lighter] APS-C too.

surfar · 08-03-2018, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by rawr

it looks just about as big as a D850

The cardboard one doesn't!

Pentikonian · 08-05-2018, 10:02 AM

The rumor site is reporting a new "leaked" image.

Another Nikon mirrorless camera picture leaked | Nikon Rumors

**Mikesul** · 08-05-2018, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Pentikonian

The rumor site is reporting a new "leaked" image.

Another Nikon mirrorless camera picture leaked | Nikon Rumors

Thanks for putting leaked in quotation marks. Leak my ....

**RobA_Oz** · 08-05-2018, 11:17 PM

On Nikon’s teaser website, they’re fairly explicit about the lens mount – it’s all new with new lenses, of course, but they emphasise that they have an adapter to take their DSLR lenses. Now, that’s something people here have been decrying loudly for some time. I wonder if current Nikon DSLR users feel the same?

surfar · 08-06-2018, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

I wonder if current Nikon DSLR users feel the same?

They are feeling wonderful,the company they support is getting modern technology.

**Rondec** · 08-06-2018, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Sony is Minolta. Not really late. Also modern cameras are small computers with attached optics. Sony has plenty of electronics experience.

I've always wondered how much Minolta DNA is left in any current Sony cameras. Not much I would say. There may have been a couple of alpha mount cameras right after Sony bought KM that had some, but it seemed as though they left that pretty quickly to churn out tech monsters.

beholder3 · 08-06-2018, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by Pentikonian

The rumor site is reporting a new "leaked" image.

Small size is definitely not something why anyone would buy this camera or the lenses.

**RobA_Oz** · 08-06-2018, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by surfar

They are feeling wonderful,the company they support is getting modern technology.

...including the adapter, which was my point.

According to Cameraville’s review of the D FA*50/1.4, Nikon needs to up their modern lens technology game, too.

D1N0 · 08-06-2018, 03:20 AM

Nikon would have to launch a few lenses with the camera too. Does anybody recognize the lens in the latest leaked pics? Is it an adapted DSLR lens or a new mirrorless one? Looks like a zoom to me.

surfar · 08-06-2018, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

According to Cameraville’s review of the D FA*50/1.4, Nikon needs to up their modern lens technology game, too.

Well Nikonians dont always buy the native lenses,Sigma has been a reasonable choice but i heard on the grapevine that Tokina might be giving the Sigma some competition!

Thanks RobA for the heads up on that Vid(i bet RobB suggested it).

---------- Post added 08-06-18 at 10:25 PM ----------

Originally posted by D1N0

Looks like a zoom to me.

My guess is the 24-70 .

Originally posted by D1N0

Nikon would have to launch a few lenses with the camera too

The zoom and 35/50 @ launch,then 3 more in 2019 is what ive seen reported.

**RobA_Oz** · 08-06-2018, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Well Nikonians dont always buy the native lenses,Sigma has been a reasonable choice but i heard on the grapevine that Tokina might be giving the Sigma some competition!

Too true, on both counts. Tokina is the sort of partner that Ricoh would be well-advised to stick with, if they can bring more revenue to the table.

Originally posted by surfar

Thanks RobA for the heads up on that Vid(i bet RobB suggested it).

We* are glad to be of service.

* – royal prerogative, of course.

surfar · 08-06-2018, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

* – royal prerogative

I thought that was reserved for Jacki Jacki?...Queen of Apples,shame she had to Abdicate,i suppose now shes out looking for that big package?

08-06-2018, 04:18 AM	#118
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by RobA_Oz According to Cameraville’s review of the D FA50/1.4, Nikon needs to up their modern lens technology game, too. Well Nikonians dont always buy the native lenses,Sigma has been a reasonable choice but i heard on the grapevine that Tokina might be giving the Sigma some competition! Thanks RobA for the heads up on that Vid(i bet RobB suggested it). ---------- Post added 08-06-18 at 10:25 PM ---------- Originally posted by D1N0 Looks like a zoom to me. My guess is the 24-70 . Originally posted by D1N0 Nikon would have to launch a few lenses with the camera too The zoom and 35/50 @ launch,then 3 more in 2019 is what ive seen reported. Last edited by surfar; 08-06-2018 at 04:26 AM.*

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08-03-2018, 12:10 PM - 1 Like	#106
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,248	Originally posted by photoptimist There's been a lot of nice camera introduced in the last 3 years, but none of them have actually changed the game. What changed the game was full frame camera for under $2K, only a few years before introduction of the K1. There was a lot of adoption of digital full frame since then. Mirrorless has been there for a very long time: 20 years ago I had a compact camera that was mirrorless, I still have it and it still works, but at that time, having a "reflex" was highly regarded, it's funny how marketing folks can turn things around to make people buy. That say, I'm still interested to see what Nikon have done in terms of camera capability: ergonomics, battery life, image quality from the sensor and the lenses available. With or without a mirror is not really my concern, as I'm interest to know what photographs can be taken and how much the system costs.

08-03-2018, 04:31 PM	#107
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by biz-engineer I'm interest to know what photographs can be taken and how much the system costs. Yes, that has my interest too.As well as the moving picture capability??? Whats funny is the HYPE that Nikon are creating with the "teaser" videos.Their body better be GOOD or they will fall flat.Mind you it will sell instead of some $$$onys and some Nikon Dslrs,so there will be some cannibalisation.

08-03-2018, 05:30 PM	#108
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Judging by the potential size of the new Nikon mirrorless - it looks just about as big as a D850 - many people will ask: what's the point? At least Sony A-mount to Sony E mount gives you a clear choice about which is the more compact option. E-mount continues to offer [smaller and lighter] APS-C too.

08-03-2018, 05:51 PM	#109
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by rawr it looks just about as big as a D850 The cardboard one doesn't!

08-05-2018, 10:02 AM	#110
Pentikonian Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 780	The rumor site is reporting a new "leaked" image. Another Nikon mirrorless camera picture leaked \| Nikon Rumors

08-05-2018, 11:16 AM	#111
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by Pentikonian The rumor site is reporting a new "leaked" image. Another Nikon mirrorless camera picture leaked \| Nikon Rumors Thanks for putting leaked in quotation marks. Leak my ....

08-05-2018, 11:17 PM	#112
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	On Nikon’s teaser website, they’re fairly explicit about the lens mount – it’s all new with new lenses, of course, but they emphasise that they have an adapter to take their DSLR lenses. Now, that’s something people here have been decrying loudly for some time. I wonder if current Nikon DSLR users feel the same?

08-06-2018, 12:40 AM	#113
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by RobA_Oz I wonder if current Nikon DSLR users feel the same? They are feeling wonderful,the company they support is getting modern technology.

08-06-2018, 02:46 AM	#114
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	Originally posted by Mikesul Sony is Minolta. Not really late. Also modern cameras are small computers with attached optics. Sony has plenty of electronics experience. I've always wondered how much Minolta DNA is left in any current Sony cameras. Not much I would say. There may have been a couple of alpha mount cameras right after Sony bought KM that had some, but it seemed as though they left that pretty quickly to churn out tech monsters.

08-06-2018, 03:06 AM	#115
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by Pentikonian The rumor site is reporting a new "leaked" image. Small size is definitely not something why anyone would buy this camera or the lenses.

08-06-2018, 03:07 AM	#116
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by surfar They are feeling wonderful,the company they support is getting modern technology. ...including the adapter, which was my point. According to Cameraville’s review of the D FA*50/1.4, Nikon needs to up their modern lens technology game, too.

08-06-2018, 03:20 AM	#117
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Nikon would have to launch a few lenses with the camera too. Does anybody recognize the lens in the latest leaked pics? Is it an adapted DSLR lens or a new mirrorless one? Looks like a zoom to me.

08-06-2018, 06:54 PM	#119
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by surfar Well Nikonians dont always buy the native lenses,Sigma has been a reasonable choice but i heard on the grapevine that Tokina might be giving the Sigma some competition! Too true, on both counts. Tokina is the sort of partner that Ricoh would be well-advised to stick with, if they can bring more revenue to the table. Originally posted by surfar Thanks RobA for the heads up on that Vid(i bet RobB suggested it). We* are glad to be of service. * – royal prerogative, of course.

08-06-2018, 07:30 PM	#120
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by RobA_Oz * – royal prerogative I thought that was reserved for Jacki Jacki?...Queen of Apples,shame she had to Abdicate,i suppose now shes out looking for that big package?

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