Hasselblad takes off.

surfar · 07-30-2018, 04:22 PM - **1 Like**

...This is a drone video 6.55 mins...dont watch if its of no interest.

Youtu.be

**UncleVanya** · 07-30-2018, 08:19 PM

This is very confusing. Hasselblad doesn't make sensors. They use Sony sensors. And a 1" sensor isn't a 100mp sensor - what are these folks confused about? Here's an article that confirms Sony makes the companys sensors: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/6/16977522/hasselblad-camera-factory-tour

surfar · 07-31-2018, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Hasselblad doesn't make sensors. They use Sony sensors.

I'd assume its DJI marketing spin, they bought Hasselblad and are using a "camera brand" they own to help sell their flying cameras.

These drones are not actually announced yet i dont think? Maybe Photokina could reveal a bit more.

**UncleVanya** · 07-31-2018, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by surfar

I'd assume its DJI marketing spin, they bought Hasselblad and are using a "camera brand" they own to help sell their flying cameras.

These drones are not actually announced yet i dont think? Maybe Photokina could reveal a bit more.

Correct on both accounts I expect, but I'm not sure what DJI has actually said. I went back a year ago and the rumor was that this was going to be the Hassleblad MF 100mp sensor and lenses in a gimbal. That's obviously not what this one is.

serothis · 07-31-2018, 07:21 AM

Is it possible that they're using Hassleblad engineers to design the optics?

**UncleVanya** · 07-31-2018, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by serothis

Is it possible that they're using Hassleblad engineers to design the optics?

It seems unlikely as they have literally no experience with 1" sensors and the glass that would entail. But more importantly the video specifies a Hassleblad sensor, not optics. Frankly it seems to me the video is a bit more speculative than it ought to be but he's generated hits so who am I to say.

UserAccessDenied · 08-29-2018, 10:02 AM

from what I've heard and read, the old dated Phantom 4 Pro actually has better IQ than the Mavic 2 Pro (Hasselblad version)

UserAccessDenied · 08-29-2018, 10:03 AM

Which is a shame, because for the most part these two UAVs have very similar specs... and the P4P is almost 2 years old now

UserAccessDenied · 08-29-2018, 10:04 AM

Here's a video I just watched. You can compare the two:

You Tube

UserAccessDenied · 08-29-2018, 10:04 AM

I personally think the Mavis 2 pro is a little over-saturated (though the guy in the video says it was closer to actual color.)
But the P4P is definitely clearer/sharper.

UserAccessDenied · 08-29-2018, 10:05 AM

Will also just note how AWESOME that train shot is in the video... Makes me want to go take my drone out and find a train to follow lol

rawr · 08-29-2018, 10:13 AM

I think the Mavic 2 Pro will probably see the P4 Pro discontinued.
Hard to justify paying extra for the P4 Pro now that the MP2 Pro is out.

UserAccessDenied · 08-29-2018, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by rawr

I think the Mavic 2 Pro will probably see the P4 Pro discontinued.
Hard to justify paying extra for the P4 Pro now that the MP2 Pro is out.

I would disagree for the following reasons:

The 2 year old P4P is arguably a better camera than the M2P... I'm spending $1500 on a high-end consumer drone, I'm more worried about image quality and function than how portable it is.

Yes the M2P is MUCH more portable than the P4P, but I'm not looking for a $1500 drone to toss in my backpack. These aren't the point-and-shoots of the drone world.
There are other options for that.

I will say the specs of the M2P, like flight time additional 1 minute, cheaper batteries, operating at lower temps, etc. These are desirable.
But for a 2-year old P4P, there are huge improvements than could be made that would likely exceed the M2P simply because you have more space to work with internally.

When the M2P was announced I thought I was going to sell my P4P and buy one on release. But after seeing footage comparing the two, I don't think the M2P is at the image quality to justify the swap.

Maybe in another year or two, but the P4P larger internals will always allow for better components and capability compared to the compact sibling.

Also, 4k 60fps... and Cinema 4k...

But maybe the mass market feels different.

UserAccessDenied · 08-29-2018, 10:29 AM

And the P4P and the M2P are the same price...

If the M2P was $500 cheaper, then I would agree with you. But at the same price, you're paying for the Hasselblad sticker and that means nothing when comparing actual image quality...

rawr · 08-29-2018, 11:01 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by UserAccessDenied

But maybe the mass market feels different.

?

Both drones seem practically equivalent for video, except for a few small pros and cons that apply to each one.

Aside from everything else re portability, I like the quietness of the M2P, a very practical benefit for droning almost anywhere.

All academic for me - I'm not planning to upgrade my current MP to anything yet. I'll wait a year or so for prices to drop some more before thinking of an upgrade. Should see quite a few DJI refurbed M2P's turning up about a year after release.

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07-30-2018, 08:19 PM	#2
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,394	This is very confusing. Hasselblad doesn't make sensors. They use Sony sensors. And a 1" sensor isn't a 100mp sensor - what are these folks confused about? Here's an article that confirms Sony makes the companys sensors: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/6/16977522/hasselblad-camera-factory-tour

07-31-2018, 01:02 AM	#3
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,137 Original Poster	Originally posted by UncleVanya Hasselblad doesn't make sensors. They use Sony sensors. I'd assume its DJI marketing spin, they bought Hasselblad and are using a "camera brand" they own to help sell their flying cameras. These drones are not actually announced yet i dont think? Maybe Photokina could reveal a bit more.

07-31-2018, 07:20 AM	#4
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,394	Originally posted by surfar I'd assume its DJI marketing spin, they bought Hasselblad and are using a "camera brand" they own to help sell their flying cameras. These drones are not actually announced yet i dont think? Maybe Photokina could reveal a bit more. Correct on both accounts I expect, but I'm not sure what DJI has actually said. I went back a year ago and the rumor was that this was going to be the Hassleblad MF 100mp sensor and lenses in a gimbal. That's obviously not what this one is.

07-31-2018, 07:21 AM	#5
serothis Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 538	Is it possible that they're using Hassleblad engineers to design the optics?

07-31-2018, 07:25 AM	#6
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,394	Originally posted by serothis Is it possible that they're using Hassleblad engineers to design the optics? It seems unlikely as they have literally no experience with 1" sensors and the glass that would entail. But more importantly the video specifies a Hassleblad sensor, not optics. Frankly it seems to me the video is a bit more speculative than it ought to be but he's generated hits so who am I to say.

08-29-2018, 10:02 AM	#7
UserAccessDenied Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,677	from what I've heard and read, the old dated Phantom 4 Pro actually has better IQ than the Mavic 2 Pro (Hasselblad version)

08-29-2018, 10:03 AM	#8
UserAccessDenied Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,677	Which is a shame, because for the most part these two UAVs have very similar specs... and the P4P is almost 2 years old now

08-29-2018, 10:04 AM	#10
UserAccessDenied Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,677	I personally think the Mavis 2 pro is a little over-saturated (though the guy in the video says it was closer to actual color.) But the P4P is definitely clearer/sharper.

08-29-2018, 10:05 AM	#11
UserAccessDenied Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,677	Will also just note how AWESOME that train shot is in the video... Makes me want to go take my drone out and find a train to follow lol

08-29-2018, 10:13 AM	#12
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	I think the Mavic 2 Pro will probably see the P4 Pro discontinued. Hard to justify paying extra for the P4 Pro now that the MP2 Pro is out.

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08-29-2018, 10:27 AM	#13
UserAccessDenied Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,677	Originally posted by rawr I think the Mavic 2 Pro will probably see the P4 Pro discontinued. Hard to justify paying extra for the P4 Pro now that the MP2 Pro is out. I would disagree for the following reasons: The 2 year old P4P is arguably a better camera than the M2P... I'm spending $1500 on a high-end consumer drone, I'm more worried about image quality and function than how portable it is. Yes the M2P is MUCH more portable than the P4P, but I'm not looking for a $1500 drone to toss in my backpack. These aren't the point-and-shoots of the drone world. There are other options for that. I will say the specs of the M2P, like flight time additional 1 minute, cheaper batteries, operating at lower temps, etc. These are desirable. But for a 2-year old P4P, there are huge improvements than could be made that would likely exceed the M2P simply because you have more space to work with internally. When the M2P was announced I thought I was going to sell my P4P and buy one on release. But after seeing footage comparing the two, I don't think the M2P is at the image quality to justify the swap. Maybe in another year or two, but the P4P larger internals will always allow for better components and capability compared to the compact sibling. Also, 4k 60fps... and Cinema 4k... But maybe the mass market feels different.

08-29-2018, 10:29 AM	#14
UserAccessDenied Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,677	And the P4P and the M2P are the same price... If the M2P was $500 cheaper, then I would agree with you. But at the same price, you're paying for the Hasselblad sticker and that means nothing when comparing actual image quality...

08-29-2018, 11:01 AM - 1 Like	#15
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by UserAccessDenied But maybe the mass market feels different. ? Both drones seem practically equivalent for video, except for a few small pros and cons that apply to each one. Aside from everything else re portability, I like the quietness of the M2P, a very practical benefit for droning almost anywhere. All academic for me - I'm not planning to upgrade my current MP to anything yet. I'll wait a year or so for prices to drop some more before thinking of an upgrade. Should see quite a few DJI refurbed M2P's turning up about a year after release.