Canon EOS R Mirrorless Launch Line-up Leaked

JPT · 08-31-2018, 03:40 AM

Here at Nokishita - a reliable source

【?】?????「EOS R」???????|?????????

Compared to Nikon - less hype, more lenses

EOS R Body
EOS R 24105 Kit
RF 35mm F1.8M IS
RF 50mm F1.2L USM
RF 28-70mm F2L USM
RF 24-105mm F4L USM

ogl · 08-31-2018, 03:53 AM

A bit cooler line of first lenses than Nikon.

RF 50mm F1.2L USM
RF 28-70mm F2L USM

28MP full frame sensor
Dual Pixel Auto Focus
IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation)
10fps shooting
4k@30fps
1080p@60fps
Priced $1,900

biz-engineer · 08-31-2018, 04:06 AM

Nikon will drop prices on the Z series, its a trap for Sony who will thing they have arrived. Guess why they have fitted only one card slot...

---------- Post added 31-08-18 at 13:08 ----------

Ah yeah but keep in mind that the Canon might still have their legendary sensor dynamic range.

---------- Post added 31-08-18 at 13:11 ----------

I expect that a number of people will sell their dslr gear at a discount and rush to a milc system and have nothing more after than before except they spent a ton of new money on their milc system.

robiles · 08-31-2018, 05:03 AM

Shots fired... i wonder who will be the victim...

That 28-70 F2 sounds like a real beast (if not misspelled)

jnd · 08-31-2018, 05:15 AM

Canon R? I guess that's not similar in any way to Canonflex and Canomatic lenses in R mount from around 1960

RF also sounds like rangefinder. The one that stands out is the F2 zoom. If it's true, Sigma got some competition!

What I'm afraid that the new mount will have new incompatible protocol to prevent 3rd party products and with that Canon will kill much needed adoption rate like Nikon did with the Z.

ogl · 08-31-2018, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by jnd

What I'm afraid that the new mount will have new incompatible protocol to prevent 3rd party products and with that Canon will kill much needed adoption rate like Nikon did with the Z.

Canon - I doubt.

reh321 · 08-31-2018, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by JPT

Here at Nokishita - a reliable source

【?】?????「EOS R」???????|?????????

Compared to Nikon - less hype, more lenses

EOS R Body
EOS R 24105 Kit
RF 35mm F1.8M IS
RF 50mm F1.2L USM
RF 28-70mm F2L USM
RF 24-105mm F4L USM

I expected that. They've been doing a fine job on the EF USM line for 30 years now, and converting from 'EF' to 'RF' is probably straight-forward.

reh321 · 08-31-2018, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by jnd

What I'm afraid that the new mount will have new incompatible protocol to prevent 3rd party products and with that Canon will kill much needed adoption rate like Nikon did with the Z.

With 30 years of EF lenses to adopt or adapt, Canon doesn't need third-party help. They have the capability to have a native lens catalog larger than Sony's "in no time".

Dan Rentea · 08-31-2018, 06:11 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

[/COLOR]Ah yeah but keep in mind that the Canon might still have their legendary sensor dynamic range.

Yet, Canon, Sony, Nikon, etc. photographers manage/prefer to use ND gradual filters and all sort of techniques so that they don't have to abuse on the dynamic range. Yet, it seems that photography exist in your opinion only because of dynamic range.

Originally posted by biz-engineer

I expect that a number of people will sell their dslr gear at a discount and rush to a milc system and have nothing more after than before except they spent a ton of new money on their milc system.

These are called options. Some will jump to the new mirrorless due to some futures like eye af or silent shutter. Others will keep their DSLRs. It's better to have a lot of options rather than just a few.

D1N0 · 08-31-2018, 06:15 AM

Lets see what the mount is like, there is some speculation about that. A hypothesis concerning the RF mount - Canon Rumors | Canon Rumors Forum

CarlJF · 08-31-2018, 07:05 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Dan Rentea

These are called options. Some will jump to the new mirrorless due to some futures like eye af or silent shutter. Others will keep their DSLRs. It's better to have a lot of options rather than just a few.

And it's the conclusion we should all have in mind regarding these annoucements from Nikon and Canon. People wanting to move toward FF MILC will now have way more options than going to Sony. It will also increase pressure toward lower prices, which is good for everyone.

I don't plan to buy a FF MILC anytime soon. But these annoucements certainly make the field interesting to watch!

---------- Post added 08-31-18 at 10:10 AM ----------

Originally posted by D1N0

Lets see what the mount is like, there is some speculation about that. A hypothesis concerning the RF mount - Canon Rumors | Canon Rumors Forum

I wonder what will be the compatibility with EOS-M. If not, it means the EOS-M will became a deadend system not worthing investing it...

reh321 · 08-31-2018, 07:15 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by CarlJF

I wonder what will be the compatibility with EOS-M. If not, it means the EOS-M will became a deadend system not worthing investing it...

That depends on who you are. For those of us who purchased Rebels, the EOS-M line may remain a perfectly reasonable choice as long as Canon supports it; their market has always been large enough to support multiple mounts, and right now, EOS-M is the largest MILC line in Japan.

Dan Rentea · 08-31-2018, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by CarlJF

I wonder what will be the compatibility with EOS-M. If not, it means the EOS-M will became a deadend system not worthing investing it...

The upcoming EOS-M 32mm f1.4 lens suggest that the M mount will be supported. I'm not interested in a full frame mirrorless because I already have a wonderful 5D Mark IV, but I'm interested to see how the M5 Mark II will look like because I do need a small camera for vacation. The only problem I have with mirrorless in general is that I'm not comfortable with the electronic viewfinder. It gives me headaches.

reh321 · 08-31-2018, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Dan Rentea

The upcoming EOS-M 32mm f1.4 lens suggest that the M mount will be supported. I'm not interested in a full frame mirrorless because I already have a wonderful 5D Mark IV, but I'm interested to see how the M5 Mark II will look like because I do need a small camera for vacation. The only problem I have with mirrorless in general is that I'm not comfortable with the electronic viewfinder. It gives me headaches.

How much time do you spend looking through the viewfinder before you take a picture?

**filoxophy** · 08-31-2018, 08:51 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by reh321

How much time do you spend looking through the viewfinder before you take a picture?

As much time as he needs to. If EVFs don’t work for him, why worry about it?

08-31-2018, 03:40 AM	#1
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Canon EOS R Mirrorless Launch Line-up Leaked Here at Nokishita - a reliable source 【?】?????「EOS R」???????\|????????? Compared to Nikon - less hype, more lenses EOS R Body EOS R 24105 Kit RF 35mm F1.8M IS RF 50mm F1.2L USM RF 28-70mm F2L USM RF 24-105mm F4L USM

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08-31-2018, 03:53 AM	#2
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	A bit cooler line of first lenses than Nikon. RF 50mm F1.2L USM RF 28-70mm F2L USM 28MP full frame sensor Dual Pixel Auto Focus IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation) 10fps shooting 4k@30fps 1080p@60fps Priced $1,900

08-31-2018, 04:06 AM	#3
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	Nikon will drop prices on the Z series, its a trap for Sony who will thing they have arrived. Guess why they have fitted only one card slot... ---------- Post added 31-08-18 at 13:08 ---------- Ah yeah but keep in mind that the Canon might still have their legendary sensor dynamic range. ---------- Post added 31-08-18 at 13:11 ---------- I expect that a number of people will sell their dslr gear at a discount and rush to a milc system and have nothing more after than before except they spent a ton of new money on their milc system.

08-31-2018, 05:03 AM	#4
robiles Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Deva Posts: 311	Shots fired... i wonder who will be the victim... That 28-70 F2 sounds like a real beast (if not misspelled)

08-31-2018, 05:15 AM	#5
jnd Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 49	Canon R? I guess that's not similar in any way to Canonflex and Canomatic lenses in R mount from around 1960 RF also sounds like rangefinder. The one that stands out is the F2 zoom. If it's true, Sigma got some competition! What I'm afraid that the new mount will have new incompatible protocol to prevent 3rd party products and with that Canon will kill much needed adoption rate like Nikon did with the Z.

08-31-2018, 05:54 AM	#6
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by jnd What I'm afraid that the new mount will have new incompatible protocol to prevent 3rd party products and with that Canon will kill much needed adoption rate like Nikon did with the Z. Canon - I doubt.

08-31-2018, 05:56 AM	#7
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by JPT Here at Nokishita - a reliable source 【?】?????「EOS R」???????\|????????? Compared to Nikon - less hype, more lenses EOS R Body EOS R 24105 Kit RF 35mm F1.8M IS RF 50mm F1.2L USM RF 28-70mm F2L USM RF 24-105mm F4L USM I expected that. They've been doing a fine job on the EF USM line for 30 years now, and converting from 'EF' to 'RF' is probably straight-forward.

08-31-2018, 06:02 AM	#8
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by jnd What I'm afraid that the new mount will have new incompatible protocol to prevent 3rd party products and with that Canon will kill much needed adoption rate like Nikon did with the Z. With 30 years of EF lenses to adopt or adapt, Canon doesn't need third-party help. They have the capability to have a native lens catalog larger than Sony's "in no time".

08-31-2018, 06:11 AM - 2 Likes	#9
Dan Rentea Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bucharest Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by biz-engineer [/COLOR]Ah yeah but keep in mind that the Canon might still have their legendary sensor dynamic range. Yet, Canon, Sony, Nikon, etc. photographers manage/prefer to use ND gradual filters and all sort of techniques so that they don't have to abuse on the dynamic range. Yet, it seems that photography exist in your opinion only because of dynamic range. Originally posted by biz-engineer I expect that a number of people will sell their dslr gear at a discount and rush to a milc system and have nothing more after than before except they spent a ton of new money on their milc system. These are called options. Some will jump to the new mirrorless due to some futures like eye af or silent shutter. Others will keep their DSLRs. It's better to have a lot of options rather than just a few.

08-31-2018, 06:15 AM	#10
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Lets see what the mount is like, there is some speculation about that. A hypothesis concerning the RF mount - Canon Rumors \| Canon Rumors Forum

08-31-2018, 07:05 AM - 1 Like	#11
CarlJF Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,185	Originally posted by Dan Rentea These are called options. Some will jump to the new mirrorless due to some futures like eye af or silent shutter. Others will keep their DSLRs. It's better to have a lot of options rather than just a few. And it's the conclusion we should all have in mind regarding these annoucements from Nikon and Canon. People wanting to move toward FF MILC will now have way more options than going to Sony. It will also increase pressure toward lower prices, which is good for everyone. I don't plan to buy a FF MILC anytime soon. But these annoucements certainly make the field interesting to watch! ---------- Post added 08-31-18 at 10:10 AM ---------- Originally posted by D1N0 Lets see what the mount is like, there is some speculation about that. A hypothesis concerning the RF mount - Canon Rumors \| Canon Rumors Forum I wonder what will be the compatibility with EOS-M. If not, it means the EOS-M will became a deadend system not worthing investing it...

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08-31-2018, 07:15 AM - 1 Like	#12
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by CarlJF I wonder what will be the compatibility with EOS-M. If not, it means the EOS-M will became a deadend system not worthing investing it... That depends on who you are. For those of us who purchased Rebels, the EOS-M line may remain a perfectly reasonable choice as long as Canon supports it; their market has always been large enough to support multiple mounts, and right now, EOS-M is the largest MILC line in Japan.

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Dan Rentea Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bucharest Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by CarlJF I wonder what will be the compatibility with EOS-M. If not, it means the EOS-M will became a deadend system not worthing investing it... The upcoming EOS-M 32mm f1.4 lens suggest that the M mount will be supported. I'm not interested in a full frame mirrorless because I already have a wonderful 5D Mark IV, but I'm interested to see how the M5 Mark II will look like because I do need a small camera for vacation. The only problem I have with mirrorless in general is that I'm not comfortable with the electronic viewfinder. It gives me headaches.

08-31-2018, 08:10 AM	#14
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by Dan Rentea The upcoming EOS-M 32mm f1.4 lens suggest that the M mount will be supported. I'm not interested in a full frame mirrorless because I already have a wonderful 5D Mark IV, but I'm interested to see how the M5 Mark II will look like because I do need a small camera for vacation. The only problem I have with mirrorless in general is that I'm not comfortable with the electronic viewfinder. It gives me headaches. How much time do you spend looking through the viewfinder before you take a picture?

08-31-2018, 08:51 AM - 1 Like	#15
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,132	Originally posted by reh321 How much time do you spend looking through the viewfinder before you take a picture? As much time as he needs to. If EVFs don’t work for him, why worry about it?