Sony A6400

Winder · 01-20-2019, 07:34 AM

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The Squirrel Mafia · 01-20-2019, 09:48 AM

^ Very impressive AF technology.

Culture · 01-20-2019, 10:58 PM

My question when I watched this was does this make up for the lack of IBIS.

aurele · 01-21-2019, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Culture

My question when I watched this was does this make up for the lack of IBIS.

IBIS won't make your subject still. It will only prevent the sensor to be moved. Great for low light landscape, not much with kids moving around.

Winder · 01-21-2019, 06:19 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Culture

My question when I watched this was does this make up for the lack of IBIS.

At its price point it's a pretty good value. The A7000 is still coming and that will have IBIS.

The Squirrel Mafia · 01-21-2019, 07:43 AM

^ That camera will be very impressive. If it comes with IBIS & that impressive AF, I might bite, only if they really do put out some more APS-C lenses.

mee · 01-21-2019, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

^ That camera will be very impressive. If it comes with IBIS & that impressive AF, I might bite, only if they really do put out some more APS-C lenses.

Depends on price though no? I'm guessing this will be around A7II price or higher, depending on features.

I also wonder if Canon and Nikon will get more involved in Dx MILC, in the same way they did with Fx? That is, if/when Sony start to pick it up more..

The Squirrel Mafia · 01-21-2019, 10:22 AM

^ Yes. The price will be a factor. If it gets too close to FF cost, there's really no point in me buying it. I'd rather go A7III instead.

But yeah, as far as I can see, for the price you pay, nothing comes close to the AF performance of this new a6400. I've seen a few videos showing the AF capabilities & I'm very impressed.

Dan Rentea · 01-21-2019, 11:10 AM

How come that a year ago A6500 was close to 70% when comes to eye af performance and now is under 40%?

Oh wait, there is a new camera that need some promotion.

Tony Northrup and his marketing style...

biz-engineer · 01-21-2019, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by aurele

IBIS won't make your subject still. It will only prevent the sensor to be moved. Great for low light landscape, not much with kids moving around.

I think you missed the point of Culture. He mean't that AF improvement wasn't compensating for lack of IBIS feature. AF can be as good as ever, but the use still need to carry a tripod around for static shots.

Sliver-Surfer · 01-21-2019, 12:06 PM

So what if it doesn't have Ibis? Almost all Sony E mount lenses have Optical Steady Shot.

mee · 01-21-2019, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

^ Yes. The price will be a factor. If it gets too close to FF cost, there's really no point in me buying it. I'd rather go A7III instead.

But yeah, as far as I can see, for the price you pay, nothing comes close to the AF performance of this new a6400. I've seen a few videos showing the AF capabilities & I'm very impressed.

I suspect their goal is to upsell people into FF.

But yes the a6400 looks really nice for a Dx MILC. I just wish it had IBIS.

If anything though, it shows where the technology is heading.

mee · 01-21-2019, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Sliver-Surfer

So what if it doesn't have Ibis? Almost all Sony E mount lenses have Optical Steady Shot.

One might mount more than just native E mount lenses to it.

Sliver-Surfer · 01-21-2019, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by mee

One might mount more than just native E mount lenses to it.

Not enough of those lenses to justify raising the cost of this camera. It is meant as a middle/high end mirrorless aps-c .Sony likely has a camera about ready for those people soon.

rawr · 01-21-2019, 10:09 PM

I note that the DPR 6400 review now claims over-heating is no longer a problem with the A6400, a problem that was widely reported in it's immediate predecessor the A6300.

DPReview TV: Sony a6400 review: Digital Photography Review

This is despite the introduction of un-limited video recording time in the A6400, and an apparently more powerful system CPU too ("an upgraded BIONZ X processor", but still the same Bionz X chip as the A6300).

I wonder what Sony did to achieve better heat management in the A6400, since the camera body shape, sensor/EVF/rear display specifications and even body materials ('robust, magnesium alloy design') don't seem different between the A6300 & A6400. CIPA battery life is also practically the same (A6300: 400, A6400: 410), so the A6400 is using about the same amount of power as the A6300 too, all within the same little confined camera body.

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01-20-2019, 09:48 AM	#17
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	^ Very impressive AF technology.

01-20-2019, 10:58 PM	#18
Culture Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vaasa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 818 Original Poster	My question when I watched this was does this make up for the lack of IBIS.

01-21-2019, 01:46 AM	#19
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	Originally posted by Culture My question when I watched this was does this make up for the lack of IBIS. IBIS won't make your subject still. It will only prevent the sensor to be moved. Great for low light landscape, not much with kids moving around.

01-21-2019, 06:19 AM - 1 Like	#20
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by Culture My question when I watched this was does this make up for the lack of IBIS. At its price point it's a pretty good value. The A7000 is still coming and that will have IBIS.

01-21-2019, 07:43 AM	#21
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	^ That camera will be very impressive. If it comes with IBIS & that impressive AF, I might bite, only if they really do put out some more APS-C lenses.

01-21-2019, 09:40 AM	#22
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia ^ That camera will be very impressive. If it comes with IBIS & that impressive AF, I might bite, only if they really do put out some more APS-C lenses. Depends on price though no? I'm guessing this will be around A7II price or higher, depending on features. I also wonder if Canon and Nikon will get more involved in Dx MILC, in the same way they did with Fx? That is, if/when Sony start to pick it up more..

01-21-2019, 10:22 AM	#23
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	^ Yes. The price will be a factor. If it gets too close to FF cost, there's really no point in me buying it. I'd rather go A7III instead. But yeah, as far as I can see, for the price you pay, nothing comes close to the AF performance of this new a6400. I've seen a few videos showing the AF capabilities & I'm very impressed.

01-21-2019, 11:10 AM	#24
Dan Rentea Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bucharest Posts: 1,716	How come that a year ago A6500 was close to 70% when comes to eye af performance and now is under 40%? Oh wait, there is a new camera that need some promotion. Tony Northrup and his marketing style...

01-21-2019, 11:51 AM	#25
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by aurele IBIS won't make your subject still. It will only prevent the sensor to be moved. Great for low light landscape, not much with kids moving around. I think you missed the point of Culture. He mean't that AF improvement wasn't compensating for lack of IBIS feature. AF can be as good as ever, but the use still need to carry a tripod around for static shots.

01-21-2019, 12:06 PM	#26
Sliver-Surfer Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,558	So what if it doesn't have Ibis? Almost all Sony E mount lenses have Optical Steady Shot.

01-21-2019, 03:20 PM	#27
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia ^ Yes. The price will be a factor. If it gets too close to FF cost, there's really no point in me buying it. I'd rather go A7III instead. But yeah, as far as I can see, for the price you pay, nothing comes close to the AF performance of this new a6400. I've seen a few videos showing the AF capabilities & I'm very impressed. I suspect their goal is to upsell people into FF. But yes the a6400 looks really nice for a Dx MILC. I just wish it had IBIS. If anything though, it shows where the technology is heading.

01-21-2019, 03:40 PM	#28
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Sliver-Surfer So what if it doesn't have Ibis? Almost all Sony E mount lenses have Optical Steady Shot. One might mount more than just native E mount lenses to it.

01-21-2019, 05:25 PM	#29
Sliver-Surfer Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,558	Originally posted by mee One might mount more than just native E mount lenses to it. Not enough of those lenses to justify raising the cost of this camera. It is meant as a middle/high end mirrorless aps-c .Sony likely has a camera about ready for those people soon.

01-21-2019, 10:09 PM	#30
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	I note that the DPR 6400 review now claims over-heating is no longer a problem with the A6400, a problem that was widely reported in it's immediate predecessor the A6300. DPReview TV: Sony a6400 review: Digital Photography Review This is despite the introduction of un-limited video recording time in the A6400, and an apparently more powerful system CPU too ("an upgraded BIONZ X processor", but still the same Bionz X chip as the A6300). I wonder what Sony did to achieve better heat management in the A6400, since the camera body shape, sensor/EVF/rear display specifications and even body materials ('robust, magnesium alloy design') don't seem different between the A6300 & A6400. CIPA battery life is also practically the same (A6300: 400, A6400: 410), so the A6400 is using about the same amount of power as the A6300 too, all within the same little confined camera body.