Sony 135mm F/1.8 GM announced

Winder · 03-01-2019, 10:49 PM

LOL. I didn't trot him out as anything. I just said do what he is doing with a MF and see how many keepers you get from a single pass. I realize that if you have a sit there and shoot enough images over multiple passes you will get a good shot eventually.

normhead · 03-02-2019, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Winder

Shoot some BiF like this manual focus. He is shooting birds in flight with the 400mm GM around the 9 minute mark. If you had enough time and enough passes you could get some shots, but when you only get one chance to get the shot, I'll take AF every time.

And I'll take the chance of getting the shot every now and then and saving a lot of money, unless I'm getting paid for the image. After all, the enjoyment of nature or sport or whatever is why I'm out there. Getting great images is secondary. I'm happy if I get them, i don't fret much if i don't. And in any case, as noted in another post, no camera guarantees you get every shot. They just increase your odds. You can have every AF advantage ever made, and still miss shots. It's all about what's needed for the subject at hand. SO who do you think might be happier. Someone with a relatively cheap MF lens who missed all their shots, or someone with the most expensive AF lens out there that missed all their shots? I suspect having the best kit and missing would be a lot more disappointing. And in the case where no one gets a good image, faster AF isn't better. IN the situation where everyone gets good images faster AF isn't better. IN the case where only the AF on your camera gets images and others don't, one of the three scenarios proposed, then faster AF is better. I know some of us live in that little window, but most of us don't.

Winder · 03-02-2019, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by normhead

And I'll take the chance of getting the shot every now and then and saving a lot of money, unless I'm getting paid for the image. After all, the enjoyment of nature or sport or whatever is why I'm out there. Getting great images is secondary. I'm happy if I get them, i don't fret much if i don't. And in any case, as noted in another post, no camera guarantees you get every shot. They just increase your odds. You can have every AF advantage ever made, and still miss shots. It's all about what's needed for the subject at hand. SO who do you think might be happier. Someone with a relatively cheap MF lens who missed all their shots, or someone with the most expensive AF lens out there that missed all their shots? I suspect having the best kit and missing would be a lot more disappointing. And in the case where no one gets a good image, faster AF isn't better. IN the situation where everyone gets good images faster AF isn't better. IN the case where only the AF on your camera gets images and others don't, one of the three scenarios proposed, then faster AF is better. I know some of us live in that little window, but most of us don't.

All GM series lenses are designed for people who are getting paid. It's pretty obvious that this is not a lens for those casual enthusiasts who don't NEED to get the shot the first time every time.

normhead · 03-02-2019, 12:59 PM

It would then be a good thing if there was a separate forum for professionals.

Winder · 03-02-2019, 01:45 PM

135mm f/1.8 G Master: The First Photos | Sony | Alpha Universe

Winder · 03-04-2019, 08:40 PM

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Winder · 03-10-2019, 07:22 AM

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Winder · 03-10-2019, 07:49 PM

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**Digitalis** · 03-10-2019, 08:44 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

the Zeiss 135mm f/2 APO Sonar lens

I work with this lens myself, I can vouch for it superb optical qualities. One thing to keep in mind with AF lens Vs a manual focus lens, the dedicated MF lens will always have a better feel to its focus mechanism. Manual focusing with AF lenses is nearly always a compromise, especially regarding tactile responsiveness if by-wire mechanisms are involved.

Winder · 03-11-2019, 02:42 PM

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These results are insanely good. At 100 lp/mm the Sony 135mm f/1.8 GM has a higher MTF than most excellent primes do at 50 lp / mm. If you don’t speak MTF, basically that means this lens can resolve fine details that would be a blur on excellent lenses. This is the sharpest lens we’ve tested. Period.

Winder · 04-04-2019, 11:08 AM

FM Rolling Review: Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM - FM Forums

Pentax_WA · 04-21-2019, 07:54 PM

Pre-ordered it. One of the sharpest lenses ever tested.

Winder · 04-22-2019, 06:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Pentax_WA

Pre-ordered it. One of the sharpest lenses ever tested.

Yes. I ordered a day or two after they opened up pre-orders. I hope Sony follows with a 100mm F/1.4. AF speed is amazing for a lens this size and its basically free of CA.

Pentax_WA · 04-22-2019, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Winder

Yes. I ordered a day or two after they opened up pre-orders. I hope Sony follows with a 100mm F/1.4. AF speed is amazing for a lens this size and its basically free of CA.

What Sony system do you shoot with?

Winder · 04-23-2019, 06:22 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Pentax_WA

What Sony system do you shoot with?

I have 2 Sony A9 bodies.

03-11-2019, 02:42 PM	#25
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	Lens Rentals \| Blog These results are insanely good. At 100 lp/mm the Sony 135mm f/1.8 GM has a higher MTF than most excellent primes do at 50 lp / mm. If you don’t speak MTF, basically that means this lens can resolve fine details that would be a blur on excellent lenses. This is the sharpest lens we’ve tested. Period.

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03-01-2019, 10:49 PM	#16
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	LOL. I didn't trot him out as anything. I just said do what he is doing with a MF and see how many keepers you get from a single pass. I realize that if you have a sit there and shoot enough images over multiple passes you will get a good shot eventually.

03-02-2019, 09:53 AM	#17
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Winder Shoot some BiF like this manual focus. He is shooting birds in flight with the 400mm GM around the 9 minute mark. If you had enough time and enough passes you could get some shots, but when you only get one chance to get the shot, I'll take AF every time. And I'll take the chance of getting the shot every now and then and saving a lot of money, unless I'm getting paid for the image. After all, the enjoyment of nature or sport or whatever is why I'm out there. Getting great images is secondary. I'm happy if I get them, i don't fret much if i don't. And in any case, as noted in another post, no camera guarantees you get every shot. They just increase your odds. You can have every AF advantage ever made, and still miss shots. It's all about what's needed for the subject at hand. SO who do you think might be happier. Someone with a relatively cheap MF lens who missed all their shots, or someone with the most expensive AF lens out there that missed all their shots? I suspect having the best kit and missing would be a lot more disappointing. And in the case where no one gets a good image, faster AF isn't better. IN the situation where everyone gets good images faster AF isn't better. IN the case where only the AF on your camera gets images and others don't, one of the three scenarios proposed, then faster AF is better. I know some of us live in that little window, but most of us don't.

03-02-2019, 11:54 AM	#18
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	Originally posted by normhead And I'll take the chance of getting the shot every now and then and saving a lot of money, unless I'm getting paid for the image. After all, the enjoyment of nature or sport or whatever is why I'm out there. Getting great images is secondary. I'm happy if I get them, i don't fret much if i don't. And in any case, as noted in another post, no camera guarantees you get every shot. They just increase your odds. You can have every AF advantage ever made, and still miss shots. It's all about what's needed for the subject at hand. SO who do you think might be happier. Someone with a relatively cheap MF lens who missed all their shots, or someone with the most expensive AF lens out there that missed all their shots? I suspect having the best kit and missing would be a lot more disappointing. And in the case where no one gets a good image, faster AF isn't better. IN the situation where everyone gets good images faster AF isn't better. IN the case where only the AF on your camera gets images and others don't, one of the three scenarios proposed, then faster AF is better. I know some of us live in that little window, but most of us don't. All GM series lenses are designed for people who are getting paid. It's pretty obvious that this is not a lens for those casual enthusiasts who don't NEED to get the shot the first time every time.

03-02-2019, 12:59 PM	#19
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	It would then be a good thing if there was a separate forum for professionals.

03-02-2019, 01:45 PM	#20
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	135mm f/1.8 G Master: The First Photos \| Sony \| Alpha Universe

03-10-2019, 07:22 AM	#22
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	Mark Galer Photography - Photos \| Facebook

03-10-2019, 08:44 PM - 1 Like	#24
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by Fenwoodian the Zeiss 135mm f/2 APO Sonar lens I work with this lens myself, I can vouch for it superb optical qualities. One thing to keep in mind with AF lens Vs a manual focus lens, the dedicated MF lens will always have a better feel to its focus mechanism. Manual focusing with AF lenses is nearly always a compromise, especially regarding tactile responsiveness if by-wire mechanisms are involved.

04-04-2019, 11:08 AM	#26
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	FM Rolling Review: Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM - FM Forums

04-21-2019, 07:54 PM	#27
Pentax_WA Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Seattle Posts: 307	Pre-ordered it. One of the sharpest lenses ever tested.

04-22-2019, 06:34 AM - 1 Like	#28
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	Originally posted by Pentax_WA Pre-ordered it. One of the sharpest lenses ever tested. Yes. I ordered a day or two after they opened up pre-orders. I hope Sony follows with a 100mm F/1.4. AF speed is amazing for a lens this size and its basically free of CA.

04-22-2019, 12:48 PM	#29
Pentax_WA Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Seattle Posts: 307	Originally posted by Winder Yes. I ordered a day or two after they opened up pre-orders. I hope Sony follows with a 100mm F/1.4. AF speed is amazing for a lens this size and its basically free of CA. What Sony system do you shoot with?

04-23-2019, 06:22 PM - 1 Like	#30
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617 Original Poster	Originally posted by Pentax_WA What Sony system do you shoot with? I have 2 Sony A9 bodies.