Hybrid shooter?...just an opinion.

surfar · 03-06-2019, 01:41 AM

Youtu.be

biz-engineer · 03-06-2019, 02:29 AM - **1 Like**

The best would obviously to buy the 3 of them.

surfar · 03-06-2019, 03:29 AM

All 3 get updated firmware in next 2 months.EYE AF,i suppose that's the next YT involving these 3.

Originally posted by biz-engineer

buy the 3

ha ha

**NZ_Ross** · 03-06-2019, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Hybrid shooter?...just an opinion.

Thanks for posting the video. I am actually looking to buy a hybrid camera about May/June so this is really helpful.

I have a budget of about USD $4,000 for camera body and lens.

To future proof for video content creation while travelling I have decided a decent 4K spec is required, and at the moment that very sadly rules out Pentax, which would be my first preference given the number of Pentax lenses I have.

I am going to be interested to see what develops over the next few months in this space.

Winder · 03-06-2019, 12:22 PM

I think the GH5 is still king. The new S1 video specs are pretty amazing, but GH5 system is much more complete.

**NZ_Ross** · 03-06-2019, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Winder

I think the GH5 is still king. The new S1 video specs are pretty amazing, but GH5 system is much more complete.

I agree regarding the GH5. I am waiting until the S1 reviews with release firmware are in, and then see what there is to be seen. I suspect we will have another Sony iteration by May as well. My concern with M4/3 is it might becoming a dead end format in terms of future development. I am mulling over that issue.

For the work I will be doing a GH5 or even a G9 would be perfectly adequate.

Winder · 03-06-2019, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by NZ_Ross

I agree regarding the GH5. I am waiting until the S1 reviews with release firmware are in, and then see what there is to be seen. I suspect we will have another Sony iteration by May as well. My concern with M4/3 is it might becoming a dead end format in terms of future development. I am mulling over that issue.

For the work I will be doing a GH5 or even a G9 would be perfectly adequate.

I can't see it going anywhere anytime soon. The system is well established and if 4K is all you need then its about the best you can get at that price point. I question the need for 8K, but I haven't seen any 8K work yet. M4/3 has advantages in terms of heat build-up and power draw over FF and larger sensors and the video quality for documentary work is more than good enough.

The L-mount is interesting but when the 50mm F/1.4 costs $2,300 I don't have a lot of interest. Maybe the glass is amazing, but my Sony Zeiss 50mm F/1.4 at $1,300 is more than enough.

surfar · 03-06-2019, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by NZ_Ross

even a G9 would be perfectly adequate.

Yes,very capable...its a bet each way for still and moving pictures.An excellent reviewer uses it lots,however look at this

Youtu.be

Your budget will get you a great system whatever your final choice is.

**NZ_Ross** · 03-06-2019, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Yes,very capable...its a bet each way for still and moving pictures.An excellent reviewer uses it lots,however look at this

Thanks, I have been following Hugh's work for a while now, and enjoy his perspective on things.

The XT-3 seems to be a very good camera, and I really like the Fuji lens range and quality. The lack of IBIS and flip screen are my concerns with the XT-3. For what I am wanting to do IBIS is more important than the flip screen. Maybe the Fuji X-H1, when it gets upgraded to the XT-3 sensor. The answer of carrying a gimbal for the XT-3 as noted in the first video will not work for me, as I do a lot of international travel, and want to take gear that is small and relatively light for that travel, and making videos and vblogs while travelling.

Ideally, if Pentax were to make a hybrid camera they would just need to take the K-70 body and drop in a sensor that delivered 4K, and some better continuous AF tracking, and they would be there.

surfar · 03-06-2019, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by NZ_Ross

the Fuji X-H1, when it gets upgraded to the XT-3 sensor.

Lots are waiting for it,word is sometime in 2020.....maybe the first edition will be ok when you are ready to buy.Another brand could be better?The $$$ony A6700/7000(speculation on the designation) could be very good.Not a lot of crop sensor glass though.

**NZ_Ross** · 03-07-2019, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by surfar

Lots are waiting for it,word is sometime in 2020.....maybe the first edition will be ok when you are ready to buy.Another brand could be better?The $$$ony A6700/7000(speculation on the designation) could be very good.Not a lot of crop sensor glass though.

And therein lies all the choices

. I am considering Sony, but again there are a range of trade-offs.

The first project I intend to use the camera for is in August in Vanuatu, so I am giving myself until late May to see what is available - then give myself a couple of months to learn how to use the camera.

Normally when I travel, just for stills the K-3 and a few lenses is ideal. Adding video to the mix, where hybrid cameras shine, is a more complex question.

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03-06-2019, 02:29 AM - 1 Like	#2
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	The best would obviously to buy the 3 of them.

03-06-2019, 03:29 AM	#3
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,138 Original Poster	All 3 get updated firmware in next 2 months.EYE AF,i suppose that's the next YT involving these 3. Originally posted by biz-engineer buy the 3 ha ha

03-06-2019, 12:13 PM	#4
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	Originally posted by surfar Hybrid shooter?...just an opinion. Thanks for posting the video. I am actually looking to buy a hybrid camera about May/June so this is really helpful. I have a budget of about USD $4,000 for camera body and lens. To future proof for video content creation while travelling I have decided a decent 4K spec is required, and at the moment that very sadly rules out Pentax, which would be my first preference given the number of Pentax lenses I have. I am going to be interested to see what develops over the next few months in this space.

03-06-2019, 12:22 PM	#5
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	I think the GH5 is still king. The new S1 video specs are pretty amazing, but GH5 system is much more complete.

03-06-2019, 01:45 PM	#6
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	Originally posted by Winder I think the GH5 is still king. The new S1 video specs are pretty amazing, but GH5 system is much more complete. I agree regarding the GH5. I am waiting until the S1 reviews with release firmware are in, and then see what there is to be seen. I suspect we will have another Sony iteration by May as well. My concern with M4/3 is it might becoming a dead end format in terms of future development. I am mulling over that issue. For the work I will be doing a GH5 or even a G9 would be perfectly adequate.

03-06-2019, 03:44 PM	#7
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by NZ_Ross I agree regarding the GH5. I am waiting until the S1 reviews with release firmware are in, and then see what there is to be seen. I suspect we will have another Sony iteration by May as well. My concern with M4/3 is it might becoming a dead end format in terms of future development. I am mulling over that issue. For the work I will be doing a GH5 or even a G9 would be perfectly adequate. I can't see it going anywhere anytime soon. The system is well established and if 4K is all you need then its about the best you can get at that price point. I question the need for 8K, but I haven't seen any 8K work yet. M4/3 has advantages in terms of heat build-up and power draw over FF and larger sensors and the video quality for documentary work is more than good enough. The L-mount is interesting but when the 50mm F/1.4 costs $2,300 I don't have a lot of interest. Maybe the glass is amazing, but my Sony Zeiss 50mm F/1.4 at $1,300 is more than enough.

03-06-2019, 10:33 PM	#9
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	Originally posted by surfar Yes,very capable...its a bet each way for still and moving pictures.An excellent reviewer uses it lots,however look at this Thanks, I have been following Hugh's work for a while now, and enjoy his perspective on things. The XT-3 seems to be a very good camera, and I really like the Fuji lens range and quality. The lack of IBIS and flip screen are my concerns with the XT-3. For what I am wanting to do IBIS is more important than the flip screen. Maybe the Fuji X-H1, when it gets upgraded to the XT-3 sensor. The answer of carrying a gimbal for the XT-3 as noted in the first video will not work for me, as I do a lot of international travel, and want to take gear that is small and relatively light for that travel, and making videos and vblogs while travelling. Ideally, if Pentax were to make a hybrid camera they would just need to take the K-70 body and drop in a sensor that delivered 4K, and some better continuous AF tracking, and they would be there.

03-06-2019, 11:41 PM	#10
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,138 Original Poster	Originally posted by NZ_Ross the Fuji X-H1, when it gets upgraded to the XT-3 sensor. Lots are waiting for it,word is sometime in 2020.....maybe the first edition will be ok when you are ready to buy.Another brand could be better?The $$$ony A6700/7000(speculation on the designation) could be very good.Not a lot of crop sensor glass though.

03-07-2019, 12:37 AM	#11
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	Originally posted by surfar Lots are waiting for it,word is sometime in 2020.....maybe the first edition will be ok when you are ready to buy.Another brand could be better?The $$$ony A6700/7000(speculation on the designation) could be very good.Not a lot of crop sensor glass though. And therein lies all the choices . I am considering Sony, but again there are a range of trade-offs. The first project I intend to use the camera for is in August in Vanuatu, so I am giving myself until late May to see what is available - then give myself a couple of months to learn how to use the camera. Normally when I travel, just for stills the K-3 and a few lenses is ideal. Adding video to the mix, where hybrid cameras shine, is a more complex question.

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