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04-17-2019, 09:12 PM   #1
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Small sensors still lead MILC sales in Japan

QuoteOriginally posted by Canon Rumors:
Japan is the only country in which we get pretty good data on sales figures in the camera industry. BCN has completed their mirrorless camera rankings for March of 2019, and the Canon EOS M50 leads the way with nearly 20% market share. Canon also had another camera in the top 10, the entry-level EOS M100.
- and only one FF camera, the Sony A7iii, is in the top ten; the Canon EOS RP was 11th..


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Interesting to see Olympus up there. Hardly see many in and around Tokyo.
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It's a bit like pasta, rice and everything else, the premium products sell in less quantities.
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Interesting... and yet, if we consider the Pentax Q series, perhaps not all that surprising. Outside of Japan, the market was quite limited. But the domestic market loved it, from what I can tell...

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It's a bit like pasta, rice and everything else, the premium products sell in less quantities.
Unless you are in Italy or China...
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We don't have the breakdown male/female owner. Female would tend to buy cameras with smaller sensors, because the smaller cameras fit better in their hands? In the US, males would tend to prefer full frame camera because of the relative grip fitting with their hand? I've handled the M5, but it was definitely too small for me.
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Canon Rumours are lousy journalists and even worse researchers.

BCN can never be used to make assessments of Japanese marketshare. As discussed in the past, it is a voluntary index of certain stores, usually minor.

It is like trying to assess nationwide record sales by listening to your town's radio station.

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Of course - large sensors are an overkill to most of hobby/amateur photographers and even some pros. There are of course some applications that can benefit from large sensors, but for the most of us APS-C is more than enough. Even tho the marketing guys from all over the world (and those who buy the crap they say) will try to convince you otherwise.
The benefit of smaller sensors is also lighter gear... and for the cameras that use it - IBIS is easier to implement and more effective on smaller sensors. Then there is the faster readout of smaller sensors, less heat and yada yada yada....

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QuoteOriginally posted by Trickortreat Quote
There are of course some applications that can benefit from large sensors, but for the most of us APS-C is more than enough.
Printing is a revelation of what sensor formats would be appropriate. There isn't enough difference between apsc and ff to make a difference in the kind of prints sizes we do. In an ideal world (not defined by marketing), full frame digital shouldn't exist and medium format digital should be more popular and better designed than it currently is.

But, the Pentax K1 sits between the two formats, that's great. Any one who didn't use a Pentax K1 yet, I highly recommend.
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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Printing is a revelation of what sensor formats would be appropriate. There isn't enough difference between apsc and ff to make a difference in the kind of prints sizes we do. In an ideal world (not defined by marketing), full frame digital shouldn't exist and medium format digital should be more popular and better designed than it currently is.
Yup... and the majority of people who use ILCs these days dont even print - they just upload the photos on social media or websites. There is really no need for those to buy FF. But of course marketing guys and "experts" will try to convince you otherwise.
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Yup... and the majority of people who use ILCs these days dont even print - they just upload the photos on social media or websites.
I never did print.
In the days of film, I had an organized collection of slides.
Today, I have organized collection of folders of JPEG files.
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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
We don't have the breakdown male/female owner. Female would tend to buy cameras with smaller sensors, because the smaller cameras fit better in their hands? In the US, males would tend to prefer full frame camera because of the relative grip fitting with their hand? I've handled the M5, but it was definitely too small for me.
Have to disagree. From observation , with the every day shooters Phones rule. You go a step up and low end canikons fill in. For us Gals that take Photography serious, size doesn't enter in. Quality of output does. A FB group I'm in for Pentax Woman is filled with K-1 users. I'm one of the few still shooting APS-C
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
I never did print.In the days of film, I had an organized collection of slides.Today, I have organized collection of folders of JPEG files.
Oh, yes, you've bought a Pentax KP and be reassured that you made the right decision.

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Quality of output does. A FB group I'm in for Pentax Woman is filled with K-1 users. I'm one of the few still shooting APS-C
Oh , thanks for sharing this insight, I didn't know.
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
I never did print.
In the days of film, I had an organized collection of slides.
Today, I have organized collection of folders of JPEG files.
Projectors were fun. I miss those things
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