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07-16-2019, 12:32 PM   #16
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it sounds great. Now where have I seen a grip like tha...oh yes. my K-1. It took them, how many yrs to come up with something like that?

Now put this to straight competition of on going MP war.

I agree with Ron, I seriously thought that 36 is almos too much, 42 is too much. 60, no 61 yes that is ... why. Other than that, it is looking great. Technically. A machine.

EVF seems to develope in good speed too. Don’t have to believe your own eyes anymore.

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QuoteOriginally posted by SteveinSLC Quote
There's also a quick blurb in that press release about improved dust and moisture sealing. If they indeed did execute on that, it may shift as many Canon, Nikon and Pentax users as some of the tech specs do.
Plus they seem to have gotten some of the things that Canikon didn't with their new mirrorless releases. IBIS and dual card slots for example.
They’ve had both of those in the previous a7 bodies
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10 fps with 61MP, lul. If anything, I'd be reluctant to hold the shutter button merely on the basis of how much time it will take to go through all those dang pictures in post.
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Must be a hell of a machine. ��

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Wait 3 months after the marketing splash. The specs won't look that impressive after all, when factoring in things like lens sharpness, using a tripod, using electronic shutter because the mechanical shutter will blur it all.
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It looks like this is cut from the same wafer as the sensor for the Fuji GFX 100. The numbers work out I think.
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We will see soon same tubers going about Fuji GFX how amazing it is => was. Now this.

Interesting times, yes, seems like this here is now maximum of pixel density on those sensors. (hoping that next pentax FF will not be with this sensor...)

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I suppose it will be fine. Looking at the images on DP Review, I'm not seeing anything particularly special. At the same time, as plenty of other have said, 36 megapixels is plenty for me and I don't need something like this. And a super resolution mode with 16 61 megapixel images sounds like something designed to give my computer a headache.

I still imagine they'll sell some of them, but I imagine the interest in higher and higher megapixels has to be slowing a bit.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
It looks like this is cut from the same wafer as the sensor for the Fuji GFX 100. The numbers work out I think.
That also was my thought, I bet they made a multi-project wafer, different sensors such as apsc 26Mp, full frame 61Mp and medium format 102Mp on the same photo litho reticle, so that to divide R&D costs under the GFX100 NRE paid by Fuji. Image sensors , like memories, are highly generic design patterns, once the basic block is designed, it's populated over a matrix, on top is added clock trees and power network.

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At the same time, as plenty of other have said, 36 megapixels is plenty for me and I don't need something like this.
At f11 with any lens, on the K1, with electronic shutter and tripod, pixels ain't fully sharp already, the max sharpness I can achieve on a flat subject is at f5.6. That means, on that Sony A7r4, I'd almost never get true 60Mpixel resolution.
When Ricoh Imaging introduced pixel shift, they said something like they tried several methods with pixel shift but they kept it at 4 files because otherwise it led to huge files without more resolution. I would need to find where they said this.

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Joke aside, if I screw my K1 onto my K1 II, I get 72Mpixels, it beats the Sony

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Wouldn't the advantage of a camera like this be more for people who are carrying both an aps-c camera and full-frame now being able to just use a full-frame camera and have the extra pixels to crop? Sort of a D850 and D500 wrapped into one. You would think this would hurt Sony's higher end aps-c cameras.
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Wouldn't the advantage of a camera like this be more for people who are carrying both an aps-c camera and full-frame now being able to just use a full-frame camera and have the extra pixels to crop? Sort of a D850 and D500 wrapped into one. You would think this would hurt Sony's higher end aps-c cameras.
Basically you describe a handful of super-nerds. This handful will not even register in sales figures.

For the majority the price alone is a complete let-down. APSC guys want APSC prices. That is maxed out at $1000 - $1400.
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I’d say itis this so called cropability what is going on. That and trying to sell latest of latest to ones who has it all already. And too much of cash. As some tubers said, I don’t want to be using dated gear. There will be some with too much of money. Or tube guys who want to get subscriptions ’I’m not sponsored by...this is why you need to hear me out -guys-’
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QuoteOriginally posted by beholder3 Quote
Basically you describe a handful of super-nerds. This handful will not even register in sales figures.

For the majority the price alone is a complete let-down. APSC guys want APSC prices. That is maxed out at $1000 - $1400.
The mix of camera's costing more then 2500 euro for a body only.......well that is a small part of the market. Very different from Leica, m4/3th, GFX 100, 645z and many models from Canon, Nikon and Sony. I don't think it is 10 % of the market.....
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I just saw a movie company or TV station people (I guess) with around 10 or more a7III (I guess it is the III version, since I see it from the other side of the road) with ultrawide lens attach to each of them line up on tripods close to my office (with a lot more equipment in the area).
I guess Sony rather target professional and imaging businesses with their pro-level body than target one unit sale to amateur rich kids.
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Sounds like a fantastic machine. I hope the EVF is a (big) step up from the A7iii.
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