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07-21-2019, 03:57 PM   #1
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Is Sony’s Pace of Innovation Actually Hurting the Photo Industry?

Is Sony's Pace of Innovation Actually Hurting the Photo Industry?

Something for the Ned Ludd fan base.





07-21-2019, 05:05 PM   #2
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Interesting point of view.
07-21-2019, 05:32 PM   #3
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No doubt,it helps to be making the sensors that the industry(apart from Canon) uses.

That's where there needs to be more competition.
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No doubt,it helps to be making the sensors that the industry(apart from Canon) uses.

That's where there needs to be more competition.
Hopefully the TowerJazz-Panasonic collaboration will result some some serious competition. Panasonic and Fuji have also been working together on sensor design (organic sensors). No doubt we need someone to catch or even pass Sony in terms of sensor technology and manufacturing.





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Samsung said they wanted a slice of the camera action too...but so far no one has bought their NX tech.
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Samsung said they wanted a slice of the camera action too...but so far no one has bought their NX tech.
Which is too bad, because that is a camera that was ahead of its time and impressive even by today's standards.



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[/COLOR]Only just been caught up by FUJI and $ony....very collectible and more expensive than on release
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You got sold on Sony pixel shift (Innovation copied from Pentax, made worse by Sony, BTW).

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You got sold on Sony pixel shift (Innovation copied from Pentax, made worse by Sony, BTW).
Who got sold on Sony Pixel-Shift?


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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
Who got sold on Sony Pixel-Shift?
Many customers get sold on anything Sony does or say. Customers also buy the idea that Sony innovate. Who was first with IBIS? Pentax. Who was first with pixel shift? Pentax. Who was first to offer a medium format crop DSLR? Pentax (Fuji and Hasselblad copied). Sony was for with eye-AF, so that's one innovation out of three. Why not write an article about Pentax being the top innovator in cameras?

Sony added bulb mode on the A7RIII via a firmware update. My K200D Pentax had bulb mode 13 years earlier. That's how Sony innovate , warfff.

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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Who was first with IBIS? Pentax.
what year was that?

QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Who was first to offer a medium format crop DSLR? Pentax (Fuji and Hasselblad copied).
Are Fuji and Hassy making Dslrs now?

QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
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QuoteOriginally posted by surfar Quote
what year was that?
May 22th 2006 Pentax (K100D). June 05th 2006 Sony (A100). Pentax was two weeks ahead of Sony

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QuoteOriginally posted by surfar Quote
Are Fuji and Hassy making Dslrs now?
Of course not, that doesn't mean Pentax wasn't first with the 645D.

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I think Sony hurt the industry in a way that many customers stop buying cameras when they see the Sony prices: $3500 for a camera, $2000 average price for one lens, that's not cheap.

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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
May 22th 2006 Pentax (K100D). June 05th 2006 Sony (A100). Pentax was two weeks ahead of Sony
WRONG, $$$ony,known in those days asMinolta,the DiMAGE A1 2003.....Pentax copied $$$ony only they were 3 years late to the party!




QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
that doesn't mean Pentax wasn't first with the 645D.
They were the last too,with the 645Z.
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The DiMAGE A1 is not an ILC, and has a very small 1/1.7" inch sensor (so it's, in comparison, trivial to mount a rudimentary IBIS). Panasonic was also making P&S cameras with IBIS in the days of "5MP is very high".
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QuoteOriginally posted by surfar Quote
WRONG, $$$ony,known in those days asMinolta,the DiMAGE A1 2003.....Pentax copied $$$ony only they were 3 years late to the party!
Minolta wasn't Sony. Minolta was a different company. By the way, Newton developed the law of gravity around 1687. The gyroscope was invented in 1852 by Leon Foucault. Both were way before Minolta.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Serkevan Quote
The DiMAGE A1 is not an ILC, and has a very small 1/1.7" inch sensor (so it's, in comparison, trivial to mount a rudimentary IBIS). Panasonic was also making P&S cameras with IBIS in the days of "5MP is very high".
My Canon A700 (compact) had IS already, not sure if it was optical or sensor, I think it was sensor based. But I think Pentax was one of the first, if not the first to use sensor stabilization in interchangeable lens cameras.
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