Am I crazy? Full Frame GAS... on the cheap.

**BigMackCam** · 01-08-2020, 12:50 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ChristianRock

To bring closure to this thread, I'm staying in APS-C. So for those who thought I was pretty set in my ways, I guess that proves I wasn't

I started selling off some things to get me some higher quality APS-C lenses, and a DA 35 Limited just showed up for a fantastic price that happened to be what I had already sold... so now that I bought that, after I sell the rest of the stuff I should be able to get a DA 21mm and have a great APS-C setup for my amateur needs

Maybe I need to put "long live APS-C" in my signature...

Congrats on the DA35 Limited. With its superb IQ and close focusing ability, it's a really versatile lens. I'm sure you'll love it... and should you manage to pick up the DA21 at some future date, I've no doubt you'll love that too

ChristianRock · 01-08-2020, 01:39 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Congrats on the DA35 Limited. With its superb IQ and close focusing ability, it's a really versatile lens. I'm sure you'll love it... and should you manage to pick up the DA21 at some future date, I've no doubt you'll love that too

Indeed. My justification was twofold: normal FOV is how I see the world, and I didn't have a 1:1 macro lens...

It amazes me to think I paid less for this lens than I paid for my DA 35 2.4 Plastic Fantastic back in 2013 - and I bought the 35 2.4 when it was on sale!

**BigMackCam** · 01-08-2020, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

Indeed. My justification was twofold: normal FOV is how I see the world, and I didn't have a 1:1 macro lens...

It amazes me to think I paid less for this lens than I paid for my DA 35 2.4 Plastic Fantastic back in 2013 - and I bought the 35 2.4 when it was on sale!

Really?!? Wow... what a bargain! That's even better. Nice catch - enjoy!

ChristianRock · 01-08-2020, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Really?!? Wow... what a bargain! That's even better. Nice catch - enjoy!

It amazes me to think I paid less for this lens than I paid for my DA 35 2.4 Plastic Fantastic back in 2013 - and I bought the 35 2.4 when it was on sale!

To be fair, the DA 35 2.4 is the only lens I ever bought new... paid 185 dollars for it and I was quite happy for the performance for the price paid. It was my first good prime other than the M 50 1.7

**bkpix** · 01-09-2020, 06:02 PM

I see the OP has stayed in the crop fold, which is probably sensible.

For future readers who might be tempted by cheap older Canon FF bodies, I'd rather shoot (and have shot) the old 1Ds body than the original 5D. It costs about the same -- $200ish -- and has real autofocus, unlike the old 5D. Amazing image quality at reasonably low ISO and is built like a tank. Another possibility for about the same price is the APS-H 1.3 crop 1D II, a real sports shooter.

I'd also pass on the Canon 50 1.4, which is kind of a dog in the Canon world. Get a cheap 50 1.8, or the pancake 40 2.8. Add in a used 85 1.8 and the world is your oyster.

**UncleVanya** · 01-10-2020, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by bkpix

For future readers who might be tempted by cheap older Canon FF bodies, I'd rather shoot (and have shot) the old 1Ds body than the original 5D. It costs about the same -- $200ish -- and has real autofocus, unlike the old 5D. Amazing image quality at reasonably low ISO and is built like a tank. Another possibility for about the same price is the APS-H 1.3 crop 1D II, a real sports shooter.

What do you mean by real autofocus, I'm not that familiar with those bodies.

**bkpix** · 01-10-2020, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

What do you mean by real autofocus, I'm not that familiar with those bodies.

The 1Ds has 45 autofocus points compared to nine in the 5D. The AF is faster and more reliable.

ihasa · 01-16-2020, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by gatorguy

Do those good Pentax lenses perform better on your Sony than the cameras they were designed for? Truly curious as you imply they do, "breathing new life" into them.

I don't own a Sony. However an older Sony FF mirrorless, as the OP discussed, is a logical and economic way of mounting that legacy 35mm glass to a FF sensor. With the EVF providing aids like peaking for manual focussing which is tricky on a DSLR's OVF.

**clackers** · 01-16-2020, 02:45 PM

I don't use my Sony A7 much now I have a K-1, but it still has its occasional uses for me.

**aslyfox** · 01-16-2020, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

To bring closure to this thread, I'm staying in APS-C. So for those who thought I was pretty set in my ways, I guess that proves I wasn't

I started selling off some things to get me some higher quality APS-C lenses, and a DA 35 Limited just showed up for a fantastic price that happened to be what I had already sold... so now that I bought that, after I sell the rest of the stuff I should be able to get a DA 21mm and have a great APS-C setup for my amateur needs

Maybe I need to put "long live APS-C" in my signature...

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01-08-2020, 02:01 PM	#48
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	Originally posted by ChristianRock Indeed. My justification was twofold: normal FOV is how I see the world, and I didn't have a 1:1 macro lens... It amazes me to think I paid less for this lens than I paid for my DA 35 2.4 Plastic Fantastic back in 2013 - and I bought the 35 2.4 when it was on sale! Really?!? Wow... what a bargain! That's even better. Nice catch - enjoy! Last edited by BigMackCam; 01-08-2020 at 02:30 PM.

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01-08-2020, 12:50 PM - 1 Like	#46
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	Originally posted by ChristianRock To bring closure to this thread, I'm staying in APS-C. So for those who thought I was pretty set in my ways, I guess that proves I wasn't I started selling off some things to get me some higher quality APS-C lenses, and a DA 35 Limited just showed up for a fantastic price that happened to be what I had already sold... so now that I bought that, after I sell the rest of the stuff I should be able to get a DA 21mm and have a great APS-C setup for my amateur needs Maybe I need to put "long live APS-C" in my signature... Congrats on the DA35 Limited. With its superb IQ and close focusing ability, it's a really versatile lens. I'm sure you'll love it... and should you manage to pick up the DA21 at some future date, I've no doubt you'll love that too

01-08-2020, 01:39 PM - 1 Like	#47
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,912 Original Poster	Originally posted by BigMackCam Congrats on the DA35 Limited. With its superb IQ and close focusing ability, it's a really versatile lens. I'm sure you'll love it... and should you manage to pick up the DA21 at some future date, I've no doubt you'll love that too Indeed. My justification was twofold: normal FOV is how I see the world, and I didn't have a 1:1 macro lens... It amazes me to think I paid less for this lens than I paid for my DA 35 2.4 Plastic Fantastic back in 2013 - and I bought the 35 2.4 when it was on sale!

01-08-2020, 02:25 PM	#49
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,912 Original Poster	Originally posted by BigMackCam Really?!? Wow... what a bargain! That's even better. Nice catch - enjoy! It amazes me to think I paid less for this lens than I paid for my DA 35 2.4 Plastic Fantastic back in 2013 - and I bought the 35 2.4 when it was on sale! To be fair, the DA 35 2.4 is the only lens I ever bought new... paid 185 dollars for it and I was quite happy for the performance for the price paid. It was my first good prime other than the M 50 1.7

01-09-2020, 06:02 PM	#50
bkpix Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Creswell, Oregon Photos: Albums Posts: 570	I see the OP has stayed in the crop fold, which is probably sensible. For future readers who might be tempted by cheap older Canon FF bodies, I'd rather shoot (and have shot) the old 1Ds body than the original 5D. It costs about the same -- $200ish -- and has real autofocus, unlike the old 5D. Amazing image quality at reasonably low ISO and is built like a tank. Another possibility for about the same price is the APS-H 1.3 crop 1D II, a real sports shooter. I'd also pass on the Canon 50 1.4, which is kind of a dog in the Canon world. Get a cheap 50 1.8, or the pancake 40 2.8. Add in a used 85 1.8 and the world is your oyster.

01-10-2020, 06:44 AM	#51
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,459	Originally posted by bkpix For future readers who might be tempted by cheap older Canon FF bodies, I'd rather shoot (and have shot) the old 1Ds body than the original 5D. It costs about the same -- $200ish -- and has real autofocus, unlike the old 5D. Amazing image quality at reasonably low ISO and is built like a tank. Another possibility for about the same price is the APS-H 1.3 crop 1D II, a real sports shooter. What do you mean by real autofocus, I'm not that familiar with those bodies.

01-10-2020, 08:27 AM	#52
bkpix Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Creswell, Oregon Photos: Albums Posts: 570	Originally posted by UncleVanya What do you mean by real autofocus, I'm not that familiar with those bodies. The 1Ds has 45 autofocus points compared to nine in the 5D. The AF is faster and more reliable.

01-16-2020, 02:36 PM	#53
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	Originally posted by gatorguy Do those good Pentax lenses perform better on your Sony than the cameras they were designed for? Truly curious as you imply they do, "breathing new life" into them. I don't own a Sony. However an older Sony FF mirrorless, as the OP discussed, is a logical and economic way of mounting that legacy 35mm glass to a FF sensor. With the EVF providing aids like peaking for manual focussing which is tricky on a DSLR's OVF.

01-16-2020, 02:45 PM	#54
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	I don't use my Sony A7 much now I have a K-1, but it still has its occasional uses for me.