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07-14-2020, 12:23 AM   #166
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Certainly in some circumstances the warning light will appear,it indicates its getting to a certain heat level.

I cant see a major problem for what I use video for,short clips of wave riding.4K 120 will be great for tuberiding and aerials.8K screen grabs 35mp wont be shabby.



At the moment Canon doesnt have a 8K cine camera but RED has,its only 80grand U$.So any pro video team can get 20 R5s...no overheating problems and its a brilliant stills device too.

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Yes, But for that 4K or even 6K(which lso is quite plenty) you can have a real videoapparatus for cheaper(Canon C100 line is not really one of those'affordable ones' it is still cheaper than that RED, LOL).
For short clips it should be fine, if one is after 8K now. I suppose -and this is just a hunch- that when others are alos joining 8K party, they will also need a bitstream and all for that, it'll be more and more of it. Hope to see panasonic doing 6/8K with actual fan inside the camera. Heating up will always degrade video quality. Not that it would matter for small clips, but yea. I suppose, if companys can survive 2021-2022 there will be some beasts on the market. 8K has been knocking on the door, as you said yor self that Fuji 100 might have already 8K down scaled to 4K and could be changed to 8K just like that.

I'm still happy with my 4K Thinking of getting perhaps 6K in future. That is plenty already.

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Yes, But for that 4K or even 6K(which lso is quite plenty) you can have a real videoapparatus for cheaper(Canon C100 line is not really one of those'affordable ones' it is still cheaper than that RED, LOL).
For short clips it should be fine, if one is after 8K now. I suppose -and this is just a hunch- that when others are alos joining 8K party, they will also need a bitstream and all for that, it'll be more and more of it. Hope to see panasonic doing 6/8K with actual fan inside the camera. Heating up will always degrade video quality. Not that it would matter for small clips, but yea. I suppose, if companys can survive 2021-2022 there will be some beasts on the market. 8K has been knocking on the door, as you said yor self that Fuji 100 might have already 8K down scaled to 4K and could be changed to 8K just like that.

I'm still happy with my 4K Thinking of getting perhaps 6K in future. That is plenty already.
For this kind of work (see the below video) I think Canon R5 is suited, rather than weddings. It's not productive due to cost involved to use R5 for regular weddings. Only the memory cards will cost you 3000$ and you need to invest at least 2000$ in your computer in order to handle 8k files.

For production work like the one from the video you can't beat the 8k video of R5 without spending much more in video cameras.

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For this kind of work (see the below video) I think Canon R5 is suited, rather than weddings. It's not productive due to cost involved to use R5 for regular weddings. Only the memory cards will cost you 3000$ and you need to invest at least 2000$ in your computer in order to handle 8k files.

For production work like the one from the video you can't beat the 8k video of R5 without spending much more in video cameras.

Canon EOS R5 - Footage !!! // Futuristic Films - YouTube

Yea, That is what it is made for. And they really nailed that part. I'v just spend 4000€ for a computer which can handle 6K I don't have access to 8K monitor, but I think this could work with that much of data still. it is not cheap thou. (I did buy this computer to handle 4K DCI RAW with out any problem).


That video has been done just to market R5, they did deliberatelly bring in biger camera to show how agile this new thing is. And it is on par with some other cameras With IBIS, even little past with the right lens. it looks good, but so does correctly done 4K material. Not saying this to undermine this machine. Bravo for Canon and ones that can and want to afford it(and that lens lineup. WIth normal EF lenses it is same as others)..
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A good way to cool down the R5!



Matt reviews lots of different brands,he owns a Canon R and has ordered the R5.

This video is a silly way to approach a couple of the negatives that may concern some people.

The bottom line is,Canon improved their bodies with IBIS,dual slots,better battery and uncropped 4K(30fps) video that goes a long time.

They added useable options of short time 120fps 4K and 8K video that adds 35mp screen grabs.




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A little creepy how easily it locks on and then keeps the lock on the eye. Imagine this tech on a drone with some AI to follow the subject. Would need to carry sunglasses all the time
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A little creepy how easily it locks on
Have you seen the footage where it tracks an animal that goes behind a tree and re emerges,it truly sticks to the eyes/head.Saw one that it was tracking the eyes of fish too.

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Have you seen the footage where it tracks an animal that goes behind a tree and re emerges,it truly sticks to the eyes/head.Saw one that it was tracking the eyes of fish too.
It's remarkable. Not only is the initial lock on in being able to analyze objects for faces, then from faces to eyes quickly, remarkable but the logic behind predicting where the object is moving and keeping focus on it is too.
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Matt reviews lots of different brands,he owns a Canon R and has ordered the R5.

This video is a silly way to approach a couple of the negatives that may concern some people.

The bottom line is,Canon improved their bodies with IBIS,dual slots,better battery and uncropped 4K(30fps) video that goes a long time.

They added useable options of short time 120fps 4K and 8K video that adds 35mp screen grabs.




CANON R5 OVERHEATING & IBIS "WOBBLES" - How bad is it? - YouTube
So, it can be a wedding video camera after all since most of the video is taken usualy at 24fps or 30fps where R5 doesn't overheat at all and since most wedding photographers or videographers have 2 bodies, 8k or 4k at 120fps can be a bonus for short special moments.

Video aside, the eye af is insane from what I saw on Youtube. I can't wait to rent both R5 and R6 like I did with RP and R and play with them with the RF 28-70mm f2L and with the RF 85mm f1.2L mounted on them.
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So, it can be a wedding video camera after all since most of the video is taken usualy at 24fps or 30fps where R5 doesn't overheat at all and since most wedding photographers or videographers have 2 bodies, 8k or 4k at 120fps can be a bonus for short special moments.
Yes,of course.An expensive one when the price of the card(s) is considered.Whereas a R6 buyer already has cards.Its a 2499 versus 5000ish decision.

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Video aside, the eye af is insane from what I saw on Youtube.
And it just keeps coming,most of the "independent" reviewers have it now.$ony SouthDrop said he thinks the AF surpasses Sony.

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I can't wait to rent both R5 and R6 like I did with RP and R and play with them with the RF 28-70mm f2L and with the RF 85mm f1.2L mounted on them.
I'll look forward to your reports!
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An interesting rumour?



Just emerged that 3 more adapters are coming next month?

A OEM speedbooster,so that eliminates most of the crop on R and RP.aswell as a couple of cinemas lens adapters.
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I still find eye AF dubious. In many of the videos the subject is so far away eye AF makes no sense. Depth of field isnt that shallow. Following the head or body is enough when the subject is such a small part of the frame. The viewfinder graphics arent the actual focus either. The lens elements still have to move. I know the actual focus is amazing as well but the are two different things.
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Seems like Sony's earlier sensor advantage is mostly history now:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=lowlight&attr13_0=sony_a7sii&attr13_1=nikon_d5&attr13_2=canon_eosr6&attr13_3=canon_eosr5&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=25600&attr16_1=25600&attr16_2=25600&attr16_3=25600&attr126_0=1&attr126_1=1&attr126_2=1&attr171_0=1&attr171_1=1&attr171_2=1&normalization=print&widget=772&x=-0.5413271539292104&y=-0.7947268332765659
Why make do with severly limiting 12 MPx if the noise performance is as good on 45 MPx and image quality overall is better.

A7s style cameras seem completely obsolete by today.
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This is COOL(ing)!



Well if anyone has watched any or all of the vast amount of YT footage about R5/6,then the cooling aspect has been blown out of propoportion.CANON have patented a cooling device but the thirdparty accessory people are active as well.Cages and cooling devices make a dual body system just a matter of switching cameras in a shoot(the assistant gets first body cool).Link shows cage and cooling fan.


Tiltaing Camera Cage for Canon R5 | Tilta
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