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**Tas** · 10-06-2020, 02:02 PM

No doubt it weighs less than the equivalent pro DSLR, but the hype around a comparatively diminutive camera body compared to one with a mirror has some limitations if you want functionality and for people to be able to get their mitts around the thing.

Nikon Z9 mirrorless camera rumored specifications - Photo Rumors

I wonder which way Sony and Canon will go in this market point?

Tas

photoptimist · 10-06-2020, 02:43 PM - **3 Likes**

So is it a flagship or a boat anchor???

It's bigger-is-better "pro" designs like that which caused me to pick Pentax over Canikon in the first place.

Maybe it's a subjective/personal Goldilocks issue: some cameras are too small for comfort and ease of use of pro-level control layouts (Sony/Fuji/MFT); some cameras are just too big (the top-of-line Canikons); and some cameras (the K-1) are just right.

**JensE** · 10-06-2020, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Tas

... if you want functionality and for people to be able to get their mitts around the thing

or simply need to use large glass hand-held

surfar · 10-06-2020, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Tas

I wonder which way Sony and Canon will go in this market point?

No idea of $ony but the Canon R1 is in development,i wonder if Nikon will be around or with JIP when the Z9 is ready.

Its over 2 years since Nikon "realigned mirrorless" down to 1 card slot and substandard AF,I suppose their devotees can wait as well.

stevebrot · 10-06-2020, 03:00 PM

For scale, the lens is 77.5mm diameter x 88.5mm long.

I would estimate the height at maybe 11cm and width the same (yes, it is square). That makes its size somewhat smaller than a K-P with grip.

Steve

stevebrot · 10-06-2020, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by photoptimist

and some cameras (the K-1) are just right.

FWIW, I think it is probably a little smaller (volume-wise) than the K-1 sans grip.

Steve

**PJ1** · 10-07-2020, 01:10 AM - **1 Like**

Yesterday the question was asked who would pay $6K for the new Zeiss camera? I guess we could ask the same of the Z9. It seems there is a market in the photographic stratosphere (just not for me).

Mistral75 · 10-07-2020, 01:49 AM

'Look at the size of this thing'

Hmm... Look at what 'this thing' is:

Originally posted by Nikon Rumors:

A reader sent me these amazing renderings of a hypothetical Nikon Z9 top-of-the-line mirrorless camera (of course we are not sure if the Z9 will have a built-in grip or not).

Nikon Z9 mirrorless camera mockups - Nikon Rumors

stevebrot · 10-07-2020, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

'Look at the size of this thing'

Hmm... Look at what 'this thing' is:

Nikon Z9 mirrorless camera mockups - Nikon Rumors

Ha! Ha! Photo Rumors quotes Nikon Rumors (same people) on phony photo! It must be a slow week for rumors over in Nikon land as well. First the "tip" of a second APS-C body from Pentax, now the fake Z9 from Nikon. Aren't you a stringer for those people?

Steve

**boriscleto** · 10-07-2020, 08:43 AM

Canon is pushing a small R series FF mirrorless paired with a 24-105 f4-7.1...

Mistral75 · 10-07-2020, 09:18 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stevebrot

Ha! Ha! Photo Rumors quotes Nikon Rumors (same people) on phony photo! It must be a slow week for rumors over in Nikon land as well. First the "tip" of a second APS-C body from Pentax, now the fake Z9 from Nikon. (...)

Three in a row actually: New rumors about two upcoming Sony cameras - Photo Rumors

Money is scarce...

**Tas** · 03-09-2021, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Hmm... Look at what 'this thing' is:

Originally posted by stevebrot

Ha! Ha! Photo Rumors quotes Nikon Rumors (same people) on phony photo! It must be a slow week for rumors over in Nikon land as well. First the "tip" of a second APS-C body from Pentax, now the fake Z9 from Nikon. Aren't you a stringer for those people?Steve

Can't really tell if the latest articles are using the same or different images to the mock up but they sure look similar.

Nikon Z9 professional mirrorless camera development officially announced - Nikon Rumors

Tas

surfar · 03-10-2021, 04:37 AM

...........................

Youtu.be

**Serkevan** · 03-10-2021, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by surfar

...........................
https://youtu.be/iKSRD1zaNgY

And here it is:Z 9 is Coming | Nikon Flagship Mirrorless Camera

Sandy Hancock · 03-10-2021, 05:15 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by surfar

...........................

Can someone explain to me what the repeated references to the Pentax K-01 at the end of that video are actually inferring? Are they just the desperately cheap anti-Pentax shot they seemed like to me, or am I missing something?

DPR have been dead to me for a log time, and now I feel a little dirty for having watched this....

10-06-2020, 02:02 PM	#1
Tas Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Brisbane, QLD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,202	Look at the size of this thing No doubt it weighs less than the equivalent pro DSLR, but the hype around a comparatively diminutive camera body compared to one with a mirror has some limitations if you want functionality and for people to be able to get their mitts around the thing. Nikon Z9 mirrorless camera rumored specifications - Photo Rumors I wonder which way Sony and Canon will go in this market point? Tas

10-07-2020, 08:36 AM	#9
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Mistral75 'Look at the size of this thing' Hmm... Look at what 'this thing' is: Nikon Z9 mirrorless camera mockups - Nikon Rumors Ha! Ha! Photo Rumors quotes Nikon Rumors (same people) on phony photo! It must be a slow week for rumors over in Nikon land as well. First the "tip" of a second APS-C body from Pentax, now the fake Z9 from Nikon. Aren't you a stringer for those people? Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 10-07-2020 at 09:48 AM.

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photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,129	So is it a flagship or a boat anchor??? It's bigger-is-better "pro" designs like that which caused me to pick Pentax over Canikon in the first place. Maybe it's a subjective/personal Goldilocks issue: some cameras are too small for comfort and ease of use of pro-level control layouts (Sony/Fuji/MFT); some cameras are just too big (the top-of-line Canikons); and some cameras (the K-1) are just right.

10-06-2020, 02:46 PM	#3
JensE Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Leipzig Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,977	Originally posted by Tas ... if you want functionality and for people to be able to get their mitts around the thing or simply need to use large glass hand-held

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surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,147	Originally posted by Tas I wonder which way Sony and Canon will go in this market point? No idea of $ony but the Canon R1 is in development,i wonder if Nikon will be around or with JIP when the Z9 is ready. Its over 2 years since Nikon "realigned mirrorless" down to 1 card slot and substandard AF,I suppose their devotees can wait as well.

10-06-2020, 03:00 PM	#5
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	For scale, the lens is 77.5mm diameter x 88.5mm long. I would estimate the height at maybe 11cm and width the same (yes, it is square). That makes its size somewhat smaller than a K-P with grip. Steve

10-06-2020, 03:05 PM	#6
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by photoptimist and some cameras (the K-1) are just right. FWIW, I think it is probably a little smaller (volume-wise) than the K-1 sans grip. Steve

10-07-2020, 01:10 AM - 1 Like	#7
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,487	Yesterday the question was asked who would pay $6K for the new Zeiss camera? I guess we could ask the same of the Z9. It seems there is a market in the photographic stratosphere (just not for me).

10-07-2020, 01:49 AM	#8
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	'Look at the size of this thing' Hmm... Look at what 'this thing' is: Originally posted by Nikon Rumors: A reader sent me these amazing renderings of a hypothetical Nikon Z9 top-of-the-line mirrorless camera (of course we are not sure if the Z9 will have a built-in grip or not). Nikon Z9 mirrorless camera mockups - Nikon Rumors

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boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Canon is pushing a small R series FF mirrorless paired with a 24-105 f4-7.1...

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Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by stevebrot Ha! Ha! Photo Rumors quotes Nikon Rumors (same people) on phony photo! It must be a slow week for rumors over in Nikon land as well. First the "tip" of a second APS-C body from Pentax, now the fake Z9 from Nikon. (...) Three in a row actually: New rumors about two upcoming Sony cameras - Photo Rumors Money is scarce...

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Tas Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Brisbane, QLD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,202 Original Poster	Originally posted by Mistral75 Hmm... Look at what 'this thing' is: Originally posted by stevebrot Ha! Ha! Photo Rumors quotes Nikon Rumors (same people) on phony photo! It must be a slow week for rumors over in Nikon land as well. First the "tip" of a second APS-C body from Pentax, now the fake Z9 from Nikon. Aren't you a stringer for those people?Steve Can't really tell if the latest articles are using the same or different images to the mock up but they sure look similar. Nikon Z9 professional mirrorless camera development officially announced - Nikon Rumors Tas

03-10-2021, 05:15 AM	#14
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by surfar ........................... https://youtu.be/iKSRD1zaNgY And here it is:Z 9 is Coming \| Nikon Flagship Mirrorless Camera

03-10-2021, 05:15 AM - 1 Like	#15
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,276	Originally posted by surfar ........................... Can someone explain to me what the repeated references to the Pentax K-01 at the end of that video are actually inferring? Are they just the desperately cheap anti-Pentax shot they seemed like to me, or am I missing something? DPR have been dead to me for a log time, and now I feel a little dirty for having watched this....