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09-29-2009, 11:14 AM   #1
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Phase One introduces 645DF medium format camera

i just saw this announcement and thought it was very interesting....


Phase One introduces 645DF medium format camera: Digital Photography Review

MF digital camera body with interchangeable back for <$6000 sounds very impressive. Maybe this will be an indicator of the pricing for Pentax's 645 digital camera since everyone has been screaming how there is no way the MF camera will be <$10,000.


Shows how much technology has decreased the production costs for making cameras too. I wonder how long it will take for full frame cameras to be <$1,500 (a price point I bet Pentax would finally take the plunge, or limit themselves to making cheaper and cheaper APC-S?).

sorry if this has been posted before, but i didnt see it

09-29-2009, 12:29 PM   #2
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For 6000$ is looks like you would have to purchase an additional digital back.

Phase One digital backs start around 10,000$...
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QuoteOriginally posted by cyg Quote
For 6000$ is looks like you would have to purchase an additional digital back.

Phase One digital backs start around 10,000$...
That's what I was reading too. No way this is the "deal of the month" as the OP is suggesting
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guess it was just wishful thinking and fast scanning of the article .

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I don't think that it includes a digital back ...
Digital Camera Back for Mamiya 645AFD can set you back a couple of big ones !!
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Doesn't come with a lens, either, so, like I mentioned in an earlier thread, you're looking at a 20K system here. Definitely hope P645D will be in a different league pricewise :-)
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I hear that lenses are close to 25 grand each.
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QuoteOriginally posted by smc Robi Quote
I don't think that it includes a digital back ...
Digital Camera Back for Mamiya 645AFD can set you back a couple of big ones !!
Just checked the Vistek site for the price of a Phase One 30mp back ...$20K Canadian. Now Pentax are talking about bringing out the 645D at around $10K USD so that is closer to a 24X36 Canon or Nikon than a Phase One or Hassy.

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QuoteOriginally posted by MikePerham Quote
Just checked the Vistek site for the price of a Phase One 30mp back ...$20K Canadian. Now Pentax are talking about bringing out the 645D at around $10K USD so that is closer to a 24X36 Canon or Nikon than a Phase One or Hassy.
Close to $8000 is where they want it is what I heard..... Even better.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nubi Quote
I hear that lenses are close to 25 grand each.
What currency are you talking about? The same article says the new lenses start at $2490 MSRP. Just read info. from Phase One, not what you hear from somebody.

The Mamiya version takes regular Mamiya 645 lenses. The newly planned leaf shutter versions may be a bit more than the regular Mamiya lenses perhaps but not what you are talking about.
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QuoteOriginally posted by MikePerham Quote
Just checked the Vistek site for the price of a Phase One 30mp back ...$20K Canadian. Now Pentax are talking about bringing out the 645D at around $10K USD so that is closer to a 24X36 Canon or Nikon than a Phase One or Hassy.
I just have to note one thing here. People keep talking about $8k being the magical price point because that's the "price of full frame Canon". The full frame Canon this would be pit against is not the 1Ds III but the 5D II; the latter being used more for studio/landscape/portrait type work where the build quality and exceptional AF of the 1-series is not needed.

So the FF body it'll go up against is a sub-$3k one, not $8k.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pingflood Quote
So the FF body it'll go up against is a sub-$3k one, not $8k.
But the MF camera will it it for lunch so... Quite not the same market IMO.
The 5D2 is used for studio because there's nothing else (maybe Nikon D3) OK for studio with FF+ sensor and OK money. Just my thoughts.
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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
But the MF camera will it it for lunch so... Quite not the same market IMO.
The 5D2 is used for studio because there's nothing else (maybe Nikon D3) OK for studio with FF+ sensor and OK money. Just my thoughts.
I certainly hope the MF camera will "eat it for lunch" but my point was that people are talking about this full frame Canon price point using the 1Ds III pricing when the 5D II has the same IQ for a hell of a lot less money.
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As pro studio photographers use FF DSLRs more as their image quality increases and their price drops, I think that for some, these cameras will become increasingly seen as throwaway tools - good for a while, but not up to scratch two or three years on.

Though some would see a more future-proof, modular system as a better investment, even though it costs much more. But who knows what we'll see in the future, and what really will turn out to be good investments?

MF is only a realistic option for those who can justify the high price and make it pay for itself.
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ShutterBug just did a review on the Phase One 645 AF it only is 60mg pxl and 42,000.00 dollars.
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