New quirky Yashica camera, "digital Holga"?

pingflood · 10-23-2009, 04:43 AM

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I suspect it will be full auto with exposure compensation. The top 1/2000 shutter speed and f/3.2 lens means that with a base ISO of 50-80 it can handle bright sunlight situations. If the aperture is fixed then the only variable is shutter speed and will most likely be controlled by the camera.

Dirk @ Japan Exposures is getting one of the early ones to review so we'll find out then.

Blue · 10-24-2009, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by lithos

Ooo, someone's been reading my Adult Match Maker page!

This camera's a good sign. Sure, it is, essentially, crap, but the idea's got potential.

I hope sensor design stagnates. Really, I do. Why? Because then maybe we can stop focusing on our cams are going to be out of date in two years and working on other stuff. Like manufacturing excellent sensors much more cheaply. Transistors and ICs were freaking expensive when they first came out. Few manufacturers could afford to make radios with transistors when they were starting out, and now every man and his factory staffed by intelligent dogs is crankin' 'em out. Tell people ten years ago that in 2009 you could fit an entire Nintendo 64 on single chip, and they'd laugh.

Well, not stagnate entirely, but to flatten out and relax. And then maybe some cheaper manufacturers - like this guy cranking out these Yashis - can have a crack at the market. Filled what could be called the high-end low-end: cameras that sacrifice the sundry bells and whistles for things like a decent lens (which I imagine is cheaper to produce than something like an LCD live-view system, AF and zooms.) Save money by not making fancy programmed modes, and stick with ASM. OVF's still cheaper than EVF. If it's a fixed prime lens, you're just masturbating by sticking an EVF in their.

Of course, labeling the poor thing a digital Holga might be killing it in the womb.

That is WTFMI.

I wonder if we can convert this thing to screw mount or to take M & K lenses by putting a mount on there.

K-9 · 10-24-2009, 09:08 AM

No thanks. My cell phone even has a better cam.

Blue · 10-24-2009, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by K-9

No thanks. My cell phone even has a better cam.

The yashica doesn't have a contract agreement hanging of the end of it . . .

lithos · 10-24-2009, 09:42 PM

Touché, Blue. (I'm one of those weird bastards who gets all funny about spending money he doesn't have.)

**ChrisPlatt** · 10-25-2009, 12:14 PM

Hey Yashica, lose the LCD and associated buttons and I'm in!

Chris

pingflood · 10-29-2009, 07:34 AM

Just tape 'em over.

Found out today that the menus are available in several languages (that wasn't certain). Good news.

**ChrisPlatt** · 10-29-2009, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by pingflood

Just tape 'em over.

No, that is unacceptable.

Chris

pingflood · 10-30-2009, 11:51 AM

First review is up... looks surprisingly "decent" but with personality.

A first look at the Yashica EZ F521 | japan exposures

(or via my blog, storpotaten: First Yashica F521 review is up! )

**tcbubbleleo** · 03-15-2012, 09:20 AM

haha, I am 3 years away! But if anyone has this and willing to sell it to me, please PM me, thanks!!

normhead · 03-15-2012, 09:31 AM

Hmmm. my instructor in photography was always going on about the advantages of cheap plastic lenses. Molded not ground so, usually superior aspherical characteristics and aberation correction, with fewer elements to get a good lens than a glass camera. That camera for that price looks like it could be a lot of fun. And who knows, it could even have decent optics. 5Mp though? What were they thinking?

eddie1960 · 03-15-2012, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by tcbubbleleo

haha, I am 3 years away! But if anyone has this and willing to sell it to me, please PM me, thanks!!

there are some clones on ebay from a guy on the flickr group

TAKASHI FX521 (Yashica EZF521 clone) Digital Holga INUK | eBay

and there is the even more pointless 12mp Joco VX5

Four Corner Store : Your store for all things Toy Camera — JOCO VX5 Digital Camera

these cameras would have been much more successful if hey could have got the lomography store to stock them

RioRico · 03-15-2012, 11:23 AM

One of my long-delayed projects is to adapt the New Optical Lens 50/5.6 that I scavenged from a US$1 Diana clone ('Akira'). Now that I have an M42 focusing helicoid, I can just mount the 'lens' on a thin macro tube for some hot plastic optical action, woo woo. Or I could just blow US$20 or whatever on a PK-mount Holga lens. But I'll try the Akira when I return to my home base in a month or three.

eddie1960 · 03-15-2012, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by RioRico

One of my long-delayed projects is to adapt the New Optical Lens 50/5.6 that I scavenged from a US$1 Diana clone ('Akira'). Now that I have an M42 focusing helicoid, I can just mount the 'lens' on a thin macro tube for some hot plastic optical action, woo woo. Or I could just blow US$20 or whatever on a PK-mount Holga lens. But I'll try the Akira when I return to my home base in a month or three.

i've been looking at those Holga lenses (we have a lomo store with a whole kit of them for $99) but when i do I just think to myself i could get so much better lenses for that $100 - heck $100 got me m28 3.5, 2x m50 1.7, m200 4.0, and change left over for a couple of coffee's - or anotehr lens

**tcbubbleleo** · 03-15-2012, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

there are some clones on ebay from a guy on the flickr group

TAKASHI FX521 (Yashica EZF521 clone) Digital Holga INUK | eBay

and there is the even more pointless 12mp Joco VX5

Four Corner Store : Your store for all things Toy Camera — JOCO VX5 Digital Camera

these cameras would have been much more successful if hey could have got the lomography store to stock them

thanks for the head's up, actually Ebay's still selling them for 'bout $99. I just want to snatch one up maybe taking it aparts enstuff. Since it's been out for 3 years, looking to buy an inexpensive used one

10-25-2009, 12:14 PM	#36
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,694	My digital Holga! Hey Yashica, lose the LCD and associated buttons and I'm in! Chris

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10-23-2009, 04:43 AM	#31
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169 Original Poster	Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. I suspect it will be full auto with exposure compensation. The top 1/2000 shutter speed and f/3.2 lens means that with a base ISO of 50-80 it can handle bright sunlight situations. If the aperture is fixed then the only variable is shutter speed and will most likely be controlled by the camera. Dirk @ Japan Exposures is getting one of the early ones to review so we'll find out then.

10-24-2009, 08:13 AM	#32
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by lithos Ooo, someone's been reading my Adult Match Maker page! This camera's a good sign. Sure, it is, essentially, crap, but the idea's got potential. I hope sensor design stagnates. Really, I do. Why? Because then maybe we can stop focusing on our cams are going to be out of date in two years and working on other stuff. Like manufacturing excellent sensors much more cheaply. Transistors and ICs were freaking expensive when they first came out. Few manufacturers could afford to make radios with transistors when they were starting out, and now every man and his factory staffed by intelligent dogs is crankin' 'em out. Tell people ten years ago that in 2009 you could fit an entire Nintendo 64 on single chip, and they'd laugh. Well, not stagnate entirely, but to flatten out and relax. And then maybe some cheaper manufacturers - like this guy cranking out these Yashis - can have a crack at the market. Filled what could be called the high-end low-end: cameras that sacrifice the sundry bells and whistles for things like a decent lens (which I imagine is cheaper to produce than something like an LCD live-view system, AF and zooms.) Save money by not making fancy programmed modes, and stick with ASM. OVF's still cheaper than EVF. If it's a fixed prime lens, you're just masturbating by sticking an EVF in their. Of course, labeling the poor thing a digital Holga might be killing it in the womb. That is WTFMI. I wonder if we can convert this thing to screw mount or to take M & K lenses by putting a mount on there.

10-24-2009, 09:08 AM	#33
K-9 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,971	No thanks. My cell phone even has a better cam.

10-24-2009, 02:29 PM	#34
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by K-9 No thanks. My cell phone even has a better cam. The yashica doesn't have a contract agreement hanging of the end of it . . .

10-24-2009, 09:42 PM	#35
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Touché, Blue. (I'm one of those weird bastards who gets all funny about spending money he doesn't have.)

10-29-2009, 07:34 AM	#37
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169 Original Poster	Just tape 'em over. Found out today that the menus are available in several languages (that wasn't certain). Good news.

10-29-2009, 05:06 PM	#38
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,694	Originally posted by pingflood Just tape 'em over. No, that is unacceptable. Chris

10-30-2009, 11:51 AM	#39
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169 Original Poster	First review is up... looks surprisingly "decent" but with personality. A first look at the Yashica EZ F521 \| japan exposures (or via my blog, storpotaten: First Yashica F521 review is up! )

03-15-2012, 09:20 AM	#40
tcbubbleleo Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Temple City CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 726	haha, I am 3 years away! But if anyone has this and willing to sell it to me, please PM me, thanks!!

03-15-2012, 09:31 AM	#41
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Hmmm. my instructor in photography was always going on about the advantages of cheap plastic lenses. Molded not ground so, usually superior aspherical characteristics and aberation correction, with fewer elements to get a good lens than a glass camera. That camera for that price looks like it could be a lot of fun. And who knows, it could even have decent optics. 5Mp though? What were they thinking?

03-15-2012, 09:36 AM	#42
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by tcbubbleleo haha, I am 3 years away! But if anyone has this and willing to sell it to me, please PM me, thanks!! there are some clones on ebay from a guy on the flickr group TAKASHI FX521 (Yashica EZF521 clone) Digital Holga INUK \| eBay and there is the even more pointless 12mp Joco VX5 Four Corner Store : Your store for all things Toy Camera — JOCO VX5 Digital Camera these cameras would have been much more successful if hey could have got the lomography store to stock them

03-15-2012, 11:23 AM	#43
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	One of my long-delayed projects is to adapt the New Optical Lens 50/5.6 that I scavenged from a US$1 Diana clone ('Akira'). Now that I have an M42 focusing helicoid, I can just mount the 'lens' on a thin macro tube for some hot plastic optical action, woo woo. Or I could just blow US$20 or whatever on a PK-mount Holga lens. But I'll try the Akira when I return to my home base in a month or three.

03-15-2012, 11:33 AM	#44
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by RioRico One of my long-delayed projects is to adapt the New Optical Lens 50/5.6 that I scavenged from a US$1 Diana clone ('Akira'). Now that I have an M42 focusing helicoid, I can just mount the 'lens' on a thin macro tube for some hot plastic optical action, woo woo. Or I could just blow US$20 or whatever on a PK-mount Holga lens. But I'll try the Akira when I return to my home base in a month or three. i've been looking at those Holga lenses (we have a lomo store with a whole kit of them for $99) but when i do I just think to myself i could get so much better lenses for that $100 - heck $100 got me m28 3.5, 2x m50 1.7, m200 4.0, and change left over for a couple of coffee's - or anotehr lens

03-15-2012, 03:28 PM	#45
tcbubbleleo Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Temple City CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 726	Originally posted by eddie1960 there are some clones on ebay from a guy on the flickr group TAKASHI FX521 (Yashica EZF521 clone) Digital Holga INUK \| eBay and there is the even more pointless 12mp Joco VX5 Four Corner Store : Your store for all things Toy Camera — JOCO VX5 Digital Camera these cameras would have been much more successful if hey could have got the lomography store to stock them thanks for the head's up, actually Ebay's still selling them for 'bout $99. I just want to snatch one up maybe taking it aparts enstuff. Since it's been out for 3 years, looking to buy an inexpensive used one