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Urkeldaedalus · 04-12-2010, 06:39 AM

This is pretty cool. I've been wondering when companies would start releasing true camcorders with an interchangeable lens system, and since this a micro 4/3 mount it should be compatible with quite a few lenses.

Panasonic announces Micro Four-Thirds camcorder: Digital Photography Review

emr · 04-12-2010, 07:01 AM

The press release calls this a game changer, and who knows, it just might be true. That camera will be able to record natively a number of different resolutions and frame rates using the relatively big sensor and there is a huge amount of glass to use on it.

johnmflores · 04-13-2010, 06:32 AM

Just as importantly, this is built with video as the primary use and thus has features that video folks want and need, i.e., XLR audio inputs, peaking display, etc... Many video folks on the Intertubes are very excited about this camera...

mithrandir · 04-13-2010, 08:08 AM

I understand it will cost $6000.00 U.S. which could be a gamestopper for many who would like to move in this direction.

emr · 04-13-2010, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by mithrandir

I understand it will cost $6000.00 U.S. which could be a gamestopper for many who would like to move in this direction.

I believe their target customer isn't the average videocamera owner, who shoots birthday parties and soccer games, but indie film makers and advanced enthusiasts and for them that price (if that's what it's going to be) is not that excessive.

Blue · 04-13-2010, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by mithrandir

I understand it will cost $6000.00 U.S. which could be a gamestopper for many who would like to move in this direction.

. . . It would definitely slow the game down a bit!

Blue · 04-13-2010, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by emr

I believe their target customer isn't the average videocamera owner, who shoots birthday parties and soccer games, but indie film makers and advanced enthusiasts and for them that price (if that's what it's going to be) is not that excessive.

Its excessive it one has to come up with the funds whether a business expense, out of pocket or via a grant! (Maybe I'll stick to the S-VHS stuff a while longer)

jct us101 · 04-13-2010, 01:44 PM

I have absolutely no idea about anything related to movie cameras, but how big is the sensor usually on them? I guessed that it was full frame size, but I have no idea actually.

**boriscleto** · 04-13-2010, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by emr

I believe their target customer isn't the average videocamera owner, who shoots birthday parties and soccer games, but indie film makers and advanced enthusiasts and for them that price (if that's what it's going to be) is not that excessive.

The season finale of House was filmed entirely on a Canon 5D Mk II. I think it may be game over for dedicated video cameras.

House Season Finale Filmed Entirely with Canon 5D Mark II

Blue · 04-13-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

I have absolutely no idea about anything related to movie cameras, but how big is the sensor usually on them? I guessed that it was full frame size, but I have no idea actually.

This one has a micro-four thirds sensor . . . read the review.

Blue · 04-13-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

The season finale of House was filmed entirely on a Canon 5D Mk II. I think it may be game over for dedicated video cameras.

House Season Finale Filmed Entirely with Canon 5D Mark II

I guess it will ultimately come down to whether or not the dedicated video cameras can stay ahead of the pack.

emr · 04-13-2010, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

The season finale of House was filmed entirely on a Canon 5D Mk II. I think it may be game over for dedicated video cameras.

Well, not necessary. As video camera people have already commented on this camera, the multitude of different audio and other connectors and also the number of different frame rates and resolutions can make a difference. Also, while one can shoot video with a DSLR, the ergonomics are not planned for that kind of use.

But however this ends, I say that we're living very interesting times camera-wise. Every few months some manufacturer seems to bring some new evolutionary - if not revolutionary - camera type which changes the market.

jct us101 · 04-13-2010, 02:12 PM

I know that, but I'm saying what size sensor do camcorders usually have?

Blue · 04-13-2010, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

I know that, but I'm saying what size sensor do camcorders usually have?

What size do dSLR usually have?

jct us101 · 04-13-2010, 02:28 PM

What I'm talking about is the big professional movie style camcorders. What size sensor do they usually use? I wanted to know to know how much smaller the Micro Four Thirds version was from that and how it would affect editing and depth of field.

04-12-2010, 06:39 AM	#1
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369	Panasonic releases professional Micro 4/3 camcorder This is pretty cool. I've been wondering when companies would start releasing true camcorders with an interchangeable lens system, and since this a micro 4/3 mount it should be compatible with quite a few lenses. Panasonic announces Micro Four-Thirds camcorder: Digital Photography Review

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04-12-2010, 07:01 AM	#2
emr Guest	The press release calls this a game changer, and who knows, it just might be true. That camera will be able to record natively a number of different resolutions and frame rates using the relatively big sensor and there is a huge amount of glass to use on it.

04-13-2010, 06:32 AM	#3
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Just as importantly, this is built with video as the primary use and thus has features that video folks want and need, i.e., XLR audio inputs, peaking display, etc... Many video folks on the Intertubes are very excited about this camera...

04-13-2010, 08:08 AM	#4
mithrandir Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,895	I understand it will cost $6000.00 U.S. which could be a gamestopper for many who would like to move in this direction.

04-13-2010, 08:15 AM	#5
emr Guest	Originally posted by mithrandir I understand it will cost $6000.00 U.S. which could be a gamestopper for many who would like to move in this direction. I believe their target customer isn't the average videocamera owner, who shoots birthday parties and soccer games, but indie film makers and advanced enthusiasts and for them that price (if that's what it's going to be) is not that excessive.

04-13-2010, 12:41 PM	#6
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by mithrandir I understand it will cost $6000.00 U.S. which could be a gamestopper for many who would like to move in this direction. . . . It would definitely slow the game down a bit!

04-13-2010, 12:42 PM	#7
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by emr I believe their target customer isn't the average videocamera owner, who shoots birthday parties and soccer games, but indie film makers and advanced enthusiasts and for them that price (if that's what it's going to be) is not that excessive. Its excessive it one has to come up with the funds whether a business expense, out of pocket or via a grant! (Maybe I'll stick to the S-VHS stuff a while longer)

04-13-2010, 01:44 PM	#8
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	I have absolutely no idea about anything related to movie cameras, but how big is the sensor usually on them? I guessed that it was full frame size, but I have no idea actually.

04-13-2010, 01:52 PM	#9
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by emr I believe their target customer isn't the average videocamera owner, who shoots birthday parties and soccer games, but indie film makers and advanced enthusiasts and for them that price (if that's what it's going to be) is not that excessive. The season finale of House was filmed entirely on a Canon 5D Mk II. I think it may be game over for dedicated video cameras. House Season Finale Filmed Entirely with Canon 5D Mark II

04-13-2010, 01:59 PM	#10
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by jct us101 I have absolutely no idea about anything related to movie cameras, but how big is the sensor usually on them? I guessed that it was full frame size, but I have no idea actually. This one has a micro-four thirds sensor . . . read the review.

04-13-2010, 01:59 PM	#11
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by boriscleto The season finale of House was filmed entirely on a Canon 5D Mk II. I think it may be game over for dedicated video cameras. House Season Finale Filmed Entirely with Canon 5D Mark II I guess it will ultimately come down to whether or not the dedicated video cameras can stay ahead of the pack.

04-13-2010, 02:02 PM	#12
emr Guest	Originally posted by boriscleto The season finale of House was filmed entirely on a Canon 5D Mk II. I think it may be game over for dedicated video cameras. Well, not necessary. As video camera people have already commented on this camera, the multitude of different audio and other connectors and also the number of different frame rates and resolutions can make a difference. Also, while one can shoot video with a DSLR, the ergonomics are not planned for that kind of use. But however this ends, I say that we're living very interesting times camera-wise. Every few months some manufacturer seems to bring some new evolutionary - if not revolutionary - camera type which changes the market.

04-13-2010, 02:12 PM	#13
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	I know that, but I'm saying what size sensor do camcorders usually have?

04-13-2010, 02:25 PM	#14
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by jct us101 I know that, but I'm saying what size sensor do camcorders usually have? What size do dSLR usually have?

04-13-2010, 02:28 PM	#15
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	What I'm talking about is the big professional movie style camcorders. What size sensor do they usually use? I wanted to know to know how much smaller the Micro Four Thirds version was from that and how it would affect editing and depth of field.

Panasonic releases professional Micro 4/3 camcorder

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