After Nikon D600 rumor, Canon entry level FF camera rumor ...

**Rondec** · 05-16-2012, 06:59 AM

Well, I think that Pentax has had plans for a full frame camera for a long time, just waiting for the right time. I don't think they will have much choice if cheaper options are coming out, although I don't think that the days of APS-C are quite past either. That said, I wouldn't see a full frame camera before spring of next year.

As to the people who "need" full frame already having them, the market isn't a fixed thing. People really do sell gear, move between brands, move up, move down and move side ways on a regular basis. At the same time, Pentax would need to have a compelling product. Hopefully it would include (a) in-body stabilization (b) smaller size (not sure how much smaller than the D800 it could really go and (c) smaller lenses than competitors. I think there is market space for such a camera right now.

jogiba · 05-16-2012, 08:40 AM

Now that the $3k D800 took the wind out of the 645D sails I think it's time for a FF K-mount camera.

Alizarine · 05-16-2012, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Rondec

Well, I think that Pentax has had plans for a full frame camera for a long time, just waiting for the right time.

The right time is probably somewhere always closer to the present. In the near-future FF will probably be commonplace in the enthusiast level and up and APS-C will be the new low-end. I just hope they won't be as late in entering the market like the LX and MZ-S did.

Originally posted by jogiba

Now that the $3k D800 took the wind out of the 645D sails I think it's time for a FF K-mount camera.

That is probably what Nikon wanted to kick at Pentax: They make a 35mm camera which they can market as "enough" to de-stabilize the emerging 645D market. Kill the bud before it blossoms. Big problem for 645D - unless Pentax comes up with a "full" MF sensor, and better everything. A $2000 brand-new price drop may not even be enough as it will still cost twice more than a D800.

And yes, kick it to Canon, who's been too busy lately improving video in their cameras for some reason... Sony... nah, I doubt the top A850 successor will make that big a splash.

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05-16-2012, 06:59 AM	#16
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Well, I think that Pentax has had plans for a full frame camera for a long time, just waiting for the right time. I don't think they will have much choice if cheaper options are coming out, although I don't think that the days of APS-C are quite past either. That said, I wouldn't see a full frame camera before spring of next year. As to the people who "need" full frame already having them, the market isn't a fixed thing. People really do sell gear, move between brands, move up, move down and move side ways on a regular basis. At the same time, Pentax would need to have a compelling product. Hopefully it would include (a) in-body stabilization (b) smaller size (not sure how much smaller than the D800 it could really go and (c) smaller lenses than competitors. I think there is market space for such a camera right now.

05-16-2012, 08:40 AM	#17
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Now that the $3k D800 took the wind out of the 645D sails I think it's time for a FF K-mount camera.

05-16-2012, 08:41 PM	#18
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	Originally posted by Rondec Well, I think that Pentax has had plans for a full frame camera for a long time, just waiting for the right time. The right time is probably somewhere always closer to the present. In the near-future FF will probably be commonplace in the enthusiast level and up and APS-C will be the new low-end. I just hope they won't be as late in entering the market like the LX and MZ-S did. Originally posted by jogiba Now that the $3k D800 took the wind out of the 645D sails I think it's time for a FF K-mount camera. That is probably what Nikon wanted to kick at Pentax: They make a 35mm camera which they can market as "enough" to de-stabilize the emerging 645D market. Kill the bud before it blossoms. Big problem for 645D - unless Pentax comes up with a "full" MF sensor, and better everything. A $2000 brand-new price drop may not even be enough as it will still cost twice more than a D800. And yes, kick it to Canon, who's been too busy lately improving video in their cameras for some reason... Sony... nah, I doubt the top A850 successor will make that big a splash.