[braver]

Guys -- I know it will hurt your feelings, but truth is important. I've been Pentax user since K10D in 2007, and have just upgraded to K-3II, via K-7 in 2010 and K-5 in 2012 (a silver one with the tiniest 40mm lens).

In 2011 I got my first Fuji, X-100, and fell in love. X-Pro1 was a blast, and then X-T1 and X100T. I got almost all Fuji lenses in existence.

They are metal, have aperture rings, very small, and very fast. You get 35mm, 23mm, 16mm, all at f/1.4, 56mm at f/1.2, 90mm and 18mm both at f/2.0 and so on.

I had the FA 31mm and FA 77mm at respectable f/1.8.

Now, as I'm awaiting the FF and upgraded to K-3II meanwhile, I needed to catch up in the 14/16mm and 23mm departments. All I see is a 15mm and 21mm at ridiculously slow apertures. With the B&H deals they are a bit cheaper than Fuji counterparts, but much, much slower. Only 100mm at f/2.8 looks good in those deals, and perhaps 20-40mm at 2.8-4.0.

For those of you owning Fuji systems as well as Pentax, how can you justify Pentax investment?

Cheers,
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P.S. Obviously I'm a Pentaxian so the title is a bit overgeneralized and exaggerated for polemic purposes.

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Last edited by braver; 01-08-2016 at 06:13 PM.

[Imp]

Well Fuji is mirrorless... so their lenses can be smaller physically. Besides that obvious statement I don't know much

[luftfluss]

[braver]

Yeah, and their AF got really good with X-T1. I was startled to recall that Pentax 15mm is f/4.0 where I have a fantastic Fuji 16mm at f/1.4 I can carry day and night. A Pentax combo needs some real justification over Fuji's for wide angle.

On the bright side, K-3II sensitivity really improved, and SR helps, but still.

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[gnaztee]

I don't own a Fuji system, but there's more to a lens than speed. Different people prioritize different things. Fuji 16mm = Fast and expensive (moderately sized), Pentax 15mm = slow, 1/2 the price, tiny. There's an argument for both. I am actually really attracted to Fuji, used to own the original X100. But, the sensor in the X-T1 had too many early issues. Oh, and I bought an RX1r.

[braver]

Got to admit Fuji lenses are small compared to Canikon, and Pentax pancakes are smaller, except for Fuji's 27mm pancake. Still Fuji has a lineup which is very small and very overall, so I can pack like 6 of them and still be under f/2.0.

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[bertwert]

@luftfluss
You beat me to it

[Adam]

Mirrorless lenses can be made smaller (or at least shorter)

[redrockcoulee]

How small is a lens with a 67mm filter compared to one with a 49mm filter? Looking at the long end the current Fuji lenses do not seem that long nor that fast. If I was starting from scratch and was a street shooter I most likely would select the Fuji system but since I am neither I am happy staying with Pentax. I have used the original X100 and the X100S and really enjoyed them but my K-r and DA 15 costs less than it and if I was to get a Fuji it most likely would be a used X100S.

Plus I do not need to upgrade all the time. Almost all systems are great and have their strengths but also weaknesses.

[normhead]

What is the Fuji version of the A-400 like?

Inquiring Blue Jays are quite curious about this.

[Digitalis]

What is the Fuji version of the A-400 like?

Or the 250-600mm f/5.6 ED [IF]? is it small and light? Inquiring minds want to know!

[redrockcoulee]

OP why are you looking at the DA 15 and 21 if you are planning on FF and already have those focal lengths for your Fuji? Just trying to understand your reasoning.

[braver]

OP why are you looking at the DA 15 and 21 if you are planning on FF and already have those focal lengths for your Fuji? Just trying to understand your reasoning.

Well since I got K-3II and it's at least several months before FF, I want to see how I can complement my existing Pentax system to recreate my Fuji usage. I shoot landscapes and kids, so carry 12,14,16,18,23,27,32,35,56,60,90mm primes with Fuji, as well as a stationary 50-140mm f/2.8 for conference settings and a couple variable aperture zooms I don't really use.

Pentax has clearly more tele stuff, but Fuji will get a huge one soon too.

So all I wanted was a couple fast wide angle lenses, and Pentax had zero!

BTW I understand that Pentax mirror and mount make it hard to get very fast lenses. The question is why then you'd invest in Pentax at all vs Fuji or Sony or even Leica mirrorless systems... And how do you guys manage in wide angle in low light?!

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[luftfluss]

Well since I got K-3II and it's at least several months before FF, I want to see how I can complement my existing Pentax system to recreate my Fuji usage. I shoot landscapes and kids, so carry 12,14,16,18,23,27,32,35,56,60,90mm primes with Fuji, as well as a stationary 50-140mm f/2.8 for conference settings and a couple variable aperture zooms I don't really use.

Pentax has clearly more tele stuff, but Fuji will get a huge one soon too.

So all I wanted was a couple fast wide angle lenses, and Pentax had zero!

BTW I understand that Pentax mirror and mount make it hard to get very fast lenses. The question is why then you'd invest in Pentax at all vs Fuji or Sony or even Leica mirrorless systems... And how do you guys manage in wide angle in low light?!

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Why did you invest in a system whose sensor (X-Trans) limits you in the software you can use for RAW conversion?

[braver]

Adobe Lightroom does a very good job with X-Trans!

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