The future of Olympus

tokyoscape · 10-03-2019, 07:00 AM

I hear many good thing about the camera but after look at the E-M1 II price... I can't find a good reason to pay that much for a smaller size sensor than my K3... If I want to pay that much, I would go with a larger FF sensor size. That's just me.

**Rondec** · 10-03-2019, 07:08 AM

The problem is that I don't think Olympus is growing. Their lens line up is nice but hard to sell new lenses to a clientele that is satisfied with what they have. Their cameras are very nice, but once again other than bumping frame rate up a huge amount or adding a bunch of focus points (none of which seem to be big sellers), not sure where they take micro four thirds.

The biggest chance I would see for them would be if they joined the L mount group. That would give them opportunity to bring their expertise to a larger sensor size and they could begin to launch new lenses and cameras for a different mount. If they stick with micro four thirds only, I think things will be poor going forward.

bdery · 10-03-2019, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by StephenHampshire

You need to stay away from that other Photographic forum, the one that rhymes with See Three Aaah......

I'm not understanding which rhyme that is...

shaolen · 10-03-2019, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by bdery

I'm not understanding which rhyme that is...

I'm not sure what that's referring to either

The Squirrel Mafia · 10-03-2019, 09:21 AM

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**luftfluss** · 10-03-2019, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by tokyoscape

I hear many good thing about the camera but after look at the E-M1 II price... I can't find a good reason to pay that much for a smaller size sensor than my K3... If I want to pay that much, I would go with a larger FF sensor size. That's just me.

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**Serkevan** · 10-03-2019, 10:18 AM

So, for almost twice the cost of a K-3 you get a very similarly-performing sensor*.

Right now, you could get a new K-1 and have 300€ to spend on lenses... or you can get the OM-D M1 ii (German prices, new). I'm sorry but it's ridiculous.

...

*I know that the Oly is great because of the ridiculous burst rate, but if we're talking subjects that don't need SIXTY fps...

repaap · 10-03-2019, 10:38 AM - **1 Like**

I was just using my OLY E5MII last weekend for video in one event where I was shooting video with it and pictures with K-1. Was looking at results and I have to admit that I was thinking of uprgading to O E1MII. Just for video. I did shoot video also with K-1 when I needed shallow Dof, and it was okay.

Now I'm not going to. If I will shoot more video, that could change. I know that GH4/5 would be even better for that, but some how Olympus is quite nice too. WR and cold resistance plays big role in my shooting too( I live in Finland after all).

I don't think that Oly is going down.

**luftfluss** · 10-03-2019, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

So, for almost twice the cost of a K-3 you get a very similarly-performing sensor*.

Right now, you could get a new K-1 and have 300€ to spend on lenses... or you can get the OM-D M1 ii (German prices, new). I'm sorry but it's ridiculous.

My graphic is showing the Oly OM-D E-M1 Mkii, which here in the USA is somewhat cheaper than a Pentax K-1/K-1 II.

The Oly has some great features - amazing (better than Pentax) IBIS, in-camera focus stacking (super neat), pixel shift that creates higher-res files than Pentax. Each camera has its own set of benefits compared with the other.

But if you read the post to which I was responding, I was simply demonstrating that just because the sensor in the Oly is smaller than the Pentax, it is not necessarily inferior.

**ffking** · 10-03-2019, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

amazing (better than Pentax) IBIS

might be true, but it gets easier the smaller the sensor is...

**Serkevan** · 10-03-2019, 10:57 AM

Ah of course, and as I say the camera is great, but in Germany it goes for 1600€ (body only!), while a K-1 new is 1200€ and a K-1ii is 1800 or so. That's mind-boggling to me.

How's the IBIS? The new 5-axis one in the K-1 is superb, I could reliably go to 1/25-1/40 on a 135mm lens.

The Squirrel Mafia · 10-03-2019, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

How's the IBIS? The new 5-axis one in the K-1 is superb, I could reliably go to 1/25-1/40 on a 135mm lens.

Depending on the lens, one could hand-hold the camera for almost 5 seconds & still get a very good shot. I think Olympus is the king of IBIS followed by Panasonic. The E-M1X IBIS is supposedly even better.

bdery · 10-03-2019, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

Donkey Pee Review.

I figured as much, but could not understand the inference.

shaolen · 10-03-2019, 11:27 AM

If E-M1 II was cheaper I might have had one by now

---------- Post added 10-03-19 at 10:28 AM ----------

The K-1's 5 axis is real good but yeah Olympus' is crazy

**Serkevan** · 10-03-2019, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

Depending on the lens, one could hand-hold the camera for almost 5 seconds & still get a very good shot. I think Olympus is the king of IBIS followed by Panasonic. The E-M1X IBIS is supposedly even better.

Okay wow, that's incredible. I know the M43 sensor is easier to stabilize but Jesus...

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tokyoscape Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,256	I hear many good thing about the camera but after look at the E-M1 II price... I can't find a good reason to pay that much for a smaller size sensor than my K3... If I want to pay that much, I would go with a larger FF sensor size. That's just me.

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Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	The problem is that I don't think Olympus is growing. Their lens line up is nice but hard to sell new lenses to a clientele that is satisfied with what they have. Their cameras are very nice, but once again other than bumping frame rate up a huge amount or adding a bunch of focus points (none of which seem to be big sellers), not sure where they take micro four thirds. The biggest chance I would see for them would be if they joined the L mount group. That would give them opportunity to bring their expertise to a larger sensor size and they could begin to launch new lenses and cameras for a different mount. If they stick with micro four thirds only, I think things will be poor going forward.

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bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by StephenHampshire You need to stay away from that other Photographic forum, the one that rhymes with See Three Aaah...... I'm not understanding which rhyme that is...

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shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047 Original Poster	Originally posted by bdery I'm not understanding which rhyme that is... I'm not sure what that's referring to either

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10-03-2019, 10:18 AM	#22
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	So, for almost twice the cost of a K-3 you get a very similarly-performing sensor. Right now, you could get a new K-1 and have 300€ to spend on lenses... or you can get the OM-D M1 ii (German prices, new). I'm sorry but it's ridiculous. ... I know that the Oly is great because of the ridiculous burst rate, but if we're talking subjects that don't need SIXTY fps...

10-03-2019, 10:38 AM - 1 Like	#23
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	I was just using my OLY E5MII last weekend for video in one event where I was shooting video with it and pictures with K-1. Was looking at results and I have to admit that I was thinking of uprgading to O E1MII. Just for video. I did shoot video also with K-1 when I needed shallow Dof, and it was okay. Now I'm not going to. If I will shoot more video, that could change. I know that GH4/5 would be even better for that, but some how Olympus is quite nice too. WR and cold resistance plays big role in my shooting too( I live in Finland after all). I don't think that Oly is going down.

10-03-2019, 10:52 AM	#24
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,618	Originally posted by Serkevan So, for almost twice the cost of a K-3 you get a very similarly-performing sensor*. Right now, you could get a new K-1 and have 300€ to spend on lenses... or you can get the OM-D M1 ii (German prices, new). I'm sorry but it's ridiculous. My graphic is showing the Oly OM-D E-M1 Mkii, which here in the USA is somewhat cheaper than a Pentax K-1/K-1 II. The Oly has some great features - amazing (better than Pentax) IBIS, in-camera focus stacking (super neat), pixel shift that creates higher-res files than Pentax. Each camera has its own set of benefits compared with the other. But if you read the post to which I was responding, I was simply demonstrating that just because the sensor in the Oly is smaller than the Pentax, it is not necessarily inferior.

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ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by luftfluss amazing (better than Pentax) IBIS might be true, but it gets easier the smaller the sensor is...

10-03-2019, 10:57 AM	#26
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Ah of course, and as I say the camera is great, but in Germany it goes for 1600€ (body only!), while a K-1 new is 1200€ and a K-1ii is 1800 or so. That's mind-boggling to me. How's the IBIS? The new 5-axis one in the K-1 is superb, I could reliably go to 1/25-1/40 on a 135mm lens.

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10-03-2019, 11:01 AM	#27
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,053	Originally posted by Serkevan How's the IBIS? The new 5-axis one in the K-1 is superb, I could reliably go to 1/25-1/40 on a 135mm lens. Depending on the lens, one could hand-hold the camera for almost 5 seconds & still get a very good shot. I think Olympus is the king of IBIS followed by Panasonic. The E-M1X IBIS is supposedly even better.

10-03-2019, 11:26 AM	#28
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia Donkey Pee Review. I figured as much, but could not understand the inference.

10-03-2019, 11:27 AM	#29
shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047 Original Poster	If E-M1 II was cheaper I might have had one by now ---------- Post added 10-03-19 at 10:28 AM ---------- The K-1's 5 axis is real good but yeah Olympus' is crazy

10-03-2019, 11:35 AM	#30
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia Depending on the lens, one could hand-hold the camera for almost 5 seconds & still get a very good shot. I think Olympus is the king of IBIS followed by Panasonic. The E-M1X IBIS is supposedly even better. Okay wow, that's incredible. I know the M43 sensor is easier to stabilize but Jesus...