Originally posted by BigMackCam Adobe, yes - but in all honesty I've never been especially keen on the OEM embedded profiles in my K-5, K-3 and K-3II either. They're pretty bland and not particularly accurate where HSL of blues and reds are concerned, IMHO. They're OK as a starting point, though, and it takes little effort to come up with a decent-looking preset for Lightroom (or other raw development tool of choice) that can be applied to images right at the point of import. It's a bit more work to create one or more custom profiles, especially if you're matching the results between two different camera + lens combos, but it only needs to be done once and is well worth the effort. Best of all, it costs nothing
I’ve had that impression as well. Generally it’s closer to the mark with the embedded profiles on my Nikon’s vs my Pentax gear and easier to get where I want faster with the Nikon. But I an get the same results with the Pentax/Olympus/Fuji gear or even my IPhone 12 now with ProRaw files. I do prefer my latest Z5 JPEG profiles more than any of the others currently and often they’re what I want OOC without any post processing which saves a lot of time, esp with the EVF making it very easy to nail highlights without any chimping on the first try.
It would be interesting to see some RAW files with a PK to Z adapter and shot with a K-1 body and Z-7 Body, then let everyone here play around in Adobe/DXO etc and see the results. Megadap already has one you can AF your PK lenses with the Z body. It’s probably a matter of time before all lenses can be well adapted to the Z body as NIkon went last and make the largest mount so they can all be adapted.
Maybe that’s Pentax’s mirrorless endgame, the K-wider. Which will then adapt Nikon Z and everything else lol.
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Originally posted by Serkevan I resemble that remark, -0.7EV unless the scene is very flat... and -1.3-1.7 EV in strong backlight
Same here, I set -.7 or a little more in really strong light. I’ve done that with the K7/5 and my 3.
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Originally posted by biz-engineer Geee, perhaps there is something interesting to get from those curves, raw container etc.., I'm don't understand all this. I look at DXO curves between Z7 and K1, the difference between the curves is what? 0.1 ev? The Z7 lower ISO, I think I can get it by dialing +0.3 exposure compensation on the K1. My base ISO images on the K1 are stunning, my problem isn't that I don't have ISO64, it's more like I don't have enough situation where I can use ISO100 handheld. A lot of available light situations, I haven't used ISO100 and I wouldn't have used ISO64 either. Performance of SR really helps here, and IMO SR on the K1 now lags behind Nikon and Canon. I've seen SR tests done with MILCs camera (Sony, Nikon, Canon , Pana), some cameras stabilize 6 stops, 7 stops, no way I get 6 stops of SR on my K1. Practically, the K1 SR gives me approx. 2 to 3 stops depending on the lens, and maybe best case 4 stops with a wide lens.
I think in the end all the differences are pretty negligible for final output between all of these cameras. It’s probably the ergonomics/feel/menus and button placements and tactile feel of the camera that works with the you the human that matters more.
Most of these things are now running the same sony sensors and the final differences are tiny. I doubt ISO 64 or ISO 100 on a Nikon or Pentax (both using a sony sensor) are going to mean much to a person looking at a final processed image on a wall. They won’t go “that was obviously this brand” Nobody can tell from the end result.
Ive got the IBIS+Lens VR (24-200) in the Z5 combo and it’s probably slightly better than the K-3. Doesn’t make much difference in end use to me honestly, they both stabilize enough to not be a hinderance. It would be cool to see Pentax do the same and combo the stabilization with the lens like most of the other brands do in some combination now. I think it was Olympus who started that. Ironically I can’t get a weather sealed super zoom for my Pentax and the Nikon is fully sealed, which is what led me to Pentax in the first place.
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