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tuco · 08-28-2021, 09:23 AM - **12 Likes**

My 6x7 is back from the camera repair shop. Whew, I got lucky and didn't need new parts. I took the camera off the tripod and set it on the ground. It had a cable release attached. I inadvertently had my foot on the cable release when I went to picked it up. The cable broke off where it mounts. The shutter button was loose after that and the camera didn't always fire when I pressed it.

henkvanzuylen · 08-28-2021, 12:44 PM - **1 Like**

What a beauty that 6x7

tuco · 08-30-2021, 06:41 PM - **3 Likes**

It was fun while it lasted. I was recently given this Polaroid and it lasted less than two boxes worth of instant film before it died.

stevebrot · 08-30-2021, 09:55 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by tuco

It was fun while it lasted. I was recently given this Polaroid and it lasted less than two boxes worth of instant film before it died.

A moment of silence for the valiant fallen...

That reminds me that I have a One Step in the other room that needs a good home.

Steve

Jonathan Mac · 08-31-2021, 08:12 AM - **5 Likes**

Minolta Hi-Matic 9 by Jonathan MacDonald, on Flickr

**tonyzoc** · 08-31-2021, 12:43 PM - **2 Likes**

while I have purchased some Pentax gear recently... including another Super Program and a 35-70/4 Pentax-A (not to mention a K-3iii)... I also added this beauty. I like the EL2 because it added AI lens mount, and has exposure lock and exposure compensation. The Nikkormat EL only has exposure lock.

**richard0170** · 08-31-2021, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by tonyzoc

while I have purchased some Pentax gear recently... including another Super Program and a 35-70/4 Pentax-A (not to mention a K-3iii)... I also added this beauty. I like the EL2 because it added AI lens mount, and has exposure lock and exposure compensation. The Nikkormat EL only has exposure lock.

I have an EL2. It is possibly the most exquisitely built camera I have ever seen. Trouble is there are two things that mean I do not love it. The first is the silly battery and its placement. The second is it just does not fit my hands as well as some of its contemporaries like the Minolta XE1/7, Canon EF or Pentax K2 (which has its own issues!). I can live with the battery thing but not the feel of the camera. If its fit you though, the EL or EL2 are certainly very desirable machines.

**tonyzoc** · 08-31-2021, 05:10 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by richard0170

I have an EL2. It is possibly the most exquisitely built camera I have ever seen. Trouble is there are two things that mean I do not love it. The first is the silly battery and its placement. The second is it just does not fit my hands as well as some of its contemporaries like the Minolta XE1/7, Canon EF or Pentax K2 (which has its own issues!). I can live with the battery thing but not the feel of the camera. If its fit you though, the EL or EL2 are certainly very desirable machines.

I've got a couple K2s and KXs and I like the feel but in the 1/2 case. The case front edges are like fingertip grips for me. The EL and EL2 I like with the winder on, not for the convenience but for the size in my hand. Also I prefer the Nikon with the soft release added. The higher release button is better for my hands. I also prefer exposure lock than exposure compensation, especially dislike the K2s. On the K2dmd at least there's an indicator in the viewfinder.

I actually like the battery in the mirror box... nothing to unscrew, I flip up the mirror lock and flip open the battery door and I can pull the battery with my fingertip. it's allot easier than finding a nickel.

I also dislike the winder lever out for power as I'm left-eyed although the ELs have a motor position on the shutter release that powers on without the winder out.

I really would like an FE2 but I want one in near mint condition so I'm looking at $200+. I have a really nice ELw and a chrome EL2 both with winders so I might sell them and see if I can cover the FE2 price.

tuco · 09-01-2021, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

A moment of silence for the valiant fallen...
Steve

I'm wondering if it wasn't the battery in the film pack that caused the problem. Because it died with a plastic burning smell after I loaded another pack of film and snapped the first picture. This camera gets its power supply from a battery they put in each film pack. I dunno about the wisdom of that design choice.

**richard0170** · 09-01-2021, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by tonyzoc

I really would like an FE2 but I want one in near mint condition so I'm looking at $200+. I have a really nice ELw and a chrome EL2 both with winders so I might sell them and see if I can cover the FE2 price.

I thought about a FE2, over the years, but on reflection I know I would really rather have the FM3a! Not a camera I can financially justify. Personally though, of all the "compact" F models my favourite is the FA. It does not look as classy, but I prefer the grip. It also has a nicer motordrive than the agricultural MD12. Not that I like using such things anymore with the price of film as it is.

**TwoUptons** · 09-01-2021, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by richard0170

I thought about a FE2, over the years, but on reflection I know I would really rather have the FM3a! Not a camera I can financially justify. Personally though, of all the "compact" F models my favourite is the FA. It does not look as classy, but I prefer the grip. It also has a nicer motordrive than the agricultural MD12. Not that I like using such things anymore with the price of film as it is.

I've always liked the FA, and it has a neat place in Nikon history, even if it was never popular...
And really, any of the FMs or FEs are good machines.

But honestly, I think my next Nikon needs to be another FG... for what I do with film, that would be plenty... and it's the closest Nikon I've come across to having ergonomics as good as contemporary Pentaxes...

I mean, I have plenty of fancy Pentaxes for the "real" work

-Eric

**richard0170** · 09-01-2021, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by TwoUptons

I've always liked the FA, and it has a neat place in Nikon history, even if it was never popular...
And really, any of the FMs or FEs are good machines.

But honestly, I think my next Nikon needs to be another FG... for what I do with film, that would be plenty... and it's the closest Nikon I've come across to having ergonomics as good as contemporary Pentaxes...

I mean, I have plenty of fancy Pentaxes for the "real" work

-Eric

Yeah, the FG's are pretty nice, though the meter can be hard to read, but mine broke down after a couple of rolls (I was on holiday at the time too and that was doubly annoying) and it was not economical to fix it. A dealer I know won't stock them as he considers them very unreliable and he prefers to stock the older less well specced EM for its greater reliability. Unfortunately (though not for me and my collection!) the price of Nikons has gone up quite a bit since I got mine - roughly double on all of my models. Still I would save up and get one of the more professionally constructed cameras. It should be more reliable than a FG and also be worth fixing if anything does go wrong. You are also unlikely to lose money in the long term with such a purchase. A quality Nikon does not need to usurp your fancy Pentaxes. It could just keep them company.

**RedRuff** · 09-01-2021, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by TwoUptons

I've always liked the FA, and it has a neat place in Nikon history, even if it was never popular...
And really, any of the FMs or FEs are good machines.

But honestly, I think my next Nikon needs to be another FG... for what I do with film, that would be plenty... and it's the closest Nikon I've come across to having ergonomics as good as contemporary Pentaxes...

I mean, I have plenty of fancy Pentaxes for the "real" work

-Eric

My FG came bundled with a broken ME Super... well, both were advertised as broken but the FG was resurrect-able by un-jamming it and it's been sweet ever since. Despite having a K1 and three F5's (and an unhealthy amount of ME Supers), the FG has a special place in my heart!

**richard0170** · 09-01-2021, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by RedRuff

... an unhealthy amount of ME Supers

How does one have an unhealthy amount of ME Supers? Surely there can be no such thing!

If one loves a particular model of camera one can never have too many (I have a similar fetish for Fujica ST801s).

**tonyzoc** · 09-01-2021, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by richard0170

I thought about a FE2, over the years, but on reflection I know I would really rather have the FM3a! Not a camera I can financially justify. Personally though, of all the "compact" F models my favourite is the FA. It does not look as classy, but I prefer the grip. It also has a nicer motordrive than the agricultural MD12. Not that I like using such things anymore with the price of film as it is.

I'd love to get a FM3a but I can't justify the expense either. Plus how much would it really add over the FE2...mechanical shutter...not something I care about anymore. I like the aperture preferred AE plus metered manual. My main interest in the FE2 (or FM2) is the shutter. It's not that I don't have one as fast or faster (MZ-3 and PZ-1p) but I just like that shutter on a film non-AF camera. The Nikon FA is also a possibility...everything the FE2 has plus matrix metering and programmed AE.

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08-28-2021, 09:23 AM - 12 Likes	#7966
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,024	My 6x7 is back from the camera repair shop. Whew, I got lucky and didn't need new parts. I took the camera off the tripod and set it on the ground. It had a cable release attached. I inadvertently had my foot on the cable release when I went to picked it up. The cable broke off where it mounts. The shutter button was loose after that and the camera didn't always fire when I pressed it.

08-28-2021, 12:44 PM - 1 Like	#7967
henkvanzuylen Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Netherlands, 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 457	What a beauty that 6x7

08-30-2021, 06:41 PM - 3 Likes	#7968
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,024	It was fun while it lasted. I was recently given this Polaroid and it lasted less than two boxes worth of instant film before it died.

08-30-2021, 09:55 PM - 1 Like	#7969
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by tuco It was fun while it lasted. I was recently given this Polaroid and it lasted less than two boxes worth of instant film before it died. A moment of silence for the valiant fallen... That reminds me that I have a One Step in the other room that needs a good home. Steve

08-31-2021, 08:12 AM - 5 Likes	#7970
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,894	Minolta Hi-Matic 9 by Jonathan MacDonald, on Flickr

08-31-2021, 12:43 PM - 2 Likes	#7971
tonyzoc Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 992	while I have purchased some Pentax gear recently... including another Super Program and a 35-70/4 Pentax-A (not to mention a K-3iii)... I also added this beauty. I like the EL2 because it added AI lens mount, and has exposure lock and exposure compensation. The Nikkormat EL only has exposure lock.

08-31-2021, 03:53 PM	#7972
richard0170 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,032	Originally posted by tonyzoc while I have purchased some Pentax gear recently... including another Super Program and a 35-70/4 Pentax-A (not to mention a K-3iii)... I also added this beauty. I like the EL2 because it added AI lens mount, and has exposure lock and exposure compensation. The Nikkormat EL only has exposure lock. I have an EL2. It is possibly the most exquisitely built camera I have ever seen. Trouble is there are two things that mean I do not love it. The first is the silly battery and its placement. The second is it just does not fit my hands as well as some of its contemporaries like the Minolta XE1/7, Canon EF or Pentax K2 (which has its own issues!). I can live with the battery thing but not the feel of the camera. If its fit you though, the EL or EL2 are certainly very desirable machines.

08-31-2021, 05:10 PM - 1 Like	#7973
tonyzoc Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 992	Originally posted by richard0170 I have an EL2. It is possibly the most exquisitely built camera I have ever seen. Trouble is there are two things that mean I do not love it. The first is the silly battery and its placement. The second is it just does not fit my hands as well as some of its contemporaries like the Minolta XE1/7, Canon EF or Pentax K2 (which has its own issues!). I can live with the battery thing but not the feel of the camera. If its fit you though, the EL or EL2 are certainly very desirable machines. I've got a couple K2s and KXs and I like the feel but in the 1/2 case. The case front edges are like fingertip grips for me. The EL and EL2 I like with the winder on, not for the convenience but for the size in my hand. Also I prefer the Nikon with the soft release added. The higher release button is better for my hands. I also prefer exposure lock than exposure compensation, especially dislike the K2s. On the K2dmd at least there's an indicator in the viewfinder. I actually like the battery in the mirror box... nothing to unscrew, I flip up the mirror lock and flip open the battery door and I can pull the battery with my fingertip. it's allot easier than finding a nickel. I also dislike the winder lever out for power as I'm left-eyed although the ELs have a motor position on the shutter release that powers on without the winder out. I really would like an FE2 but I want one in near mint condition so I'm looking at $200+. I have a really nice ELw and a chrome EL2 both with winders so I might sell them and see if I can cover the FE2 price.

09-01-2021, 09:25 AM	#7974
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,024	Originally posted by stevebrot A moment of silence for the valiant fallen... Steve I'm wondering if it wasn't the battery in the film pack that caused the problem. Because it died with a plastic burning smell after I loaded another pack of film and snapped the first picture. This camera gets its power supply from a battery they put in each film pack. I dunno about the wisdom of that design choice.

09-01-2021, 10:35 AM	#7975
richard0170 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,032	Originally posted by tonyzoc I really would like an FE2 but I want one in near mint condition so I'm looking at $200+. I have a really nice ELw and a chrome EL2 both with winders so I might sell them and see if I can cover the FE2 price. I thought about a FE2, over the years, but on reflection I know I would really rather have the FM3a! Not a camera I can financially justify. Personally though, of all the "compact" F models my favourite is the FA. It does not look as classy, but I prefer the grip. It also has a nicer motordrive than the agricultural MD12. Not that I like using such things anymore with the price of film as it is.

09-01-2021, 01:49 PM	#7976
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,212	Originally posted by richard0170 I thought about a FE2, over the years, but on reflection I know I would really rather have the FM3a! Not a camera I can financially justify. Personally though, of all the "compact" F models my favourite is the FA. It does not look as classy, but I prefer the grip. It also has a nicer motordrive than the agricultural MD12. Not that I like using such things anymore with the price of film as it is. I've always liked the FA, and it has a neat place in Nikon history, even if it was never popular... And really, any of the FMs or FEs are good machines. But honestly, I think my next Nikon needs to be another FG... for what I do with film, that would be plenty... and it's the closest Nikon I've come across to having ergonomics as good as contemporary Pentaxes... I mean, I have plenty of fancy Pentaxes for the "real" work -Eric

09-01-2021, 02:43 PM	#7977
richard0170 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,032	Originally posted by TwoUptons I've always liked the FA, and it has a neat place in Nikon history, even if it was never popular... And really, any of the FMs or FEs are good machines. But honestly, I think my next Nikon needs to be another FG... for what I do with film, that would be plenty... and it's the closest Nikon I've come across to having ergonomics as good as contemporary Pentaxes... I mean, I have plenty of fancy Pentaxes for the "real" work -Eric Yeah, the FG's are pretty nice, though the meter can be hard to read, but mine broke down after a couple of rolls (I was on holiday at the time too and that was doubly annoying) and it was not economical to fix it. A dealer I know won't stock them as he considers them very unreliable and he prefers to stock the older less well specced EM for its greater reliability. Unfortunately (though not for me and my collection!) the price of Nikons has gone up quite a bit since I got mine - roughly double on all of my models. Still I would save up and get one of the more professionally constructed cameras. It should be more reliable than a FG and also be worth fixing if anything does go wrong. You are also unlikely to lose money in the long term with such a purchase. A quality Nikon does not need to usurp your fancy Pentaxes. It could just keep them company.

09-01-2021, 03:06 PM	#7978
RedRuff Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 145	Originally posted by TwoUptons I've always liked the FA, and it has a neat place in Nikon history, even if it was never popular... And really, any of the FMs or FEs are good machines. But honestly, I think my next Nikon needs to be another FG... for what I do with film, that would be plenty... and it's the closest Nikon I've come across to having ergonomics as good as contemporary Pentaxes... I mean, I have plenty of fancy Pentaxes for the "real" work -Eric My FG came bundled with a broken ME Super... well, both were advertised as broken but the FG was resurrect-able by un-jamming it and it's been sweet ever since. Despite having a K1 and three F5's (and an unhealthy amount of ME Supers), the FG has a special place in my heart!

09-01-2021, 03:29 PM	#7979
richard0170 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,032	Originally posted by RedRuff ... an unhealthy amount of ME Supers How does one have an unhealthy amount of ME Supers? Surely there can be no such thing! If one loves a particular model of camera one can never have too many (I have a similar fetish for Fujica ST801s).

09-01-2021, 04:22 PM	#7980
tonyzoc Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 992	Originally posted by richard0170 I thought about a FE2, over the years, but on reflection I know I would really rather have the FM3a! Not a camera I can financially justify. Personally though, of all the "compact" F models my favourite is the FA. It does not look as classy, but I prefer the grip. It also has a nicer motordrive than the agricultural MD12. Not that I like using such things anymore with the price of film as it is. I'd love to get a FM3a but I can't justify the expense either. Plus how much would it really add over the FE2...mechanical shutter...not something I care about anymore. I like the aperture preferred AE plus metered manual. My main interest in the FE2 (or FM2) is the shutter. It's not that I don't have one as fast or faster (MZ-3 and PZ-1p) but I just like that shutter on a film non-AF camera. The Nikon FA is also a possibility...everything the FE2 has plus matrix metering and programmed AE.

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