Did I fall for a scam?

**UncleVanya** · 03-07-2017, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Davidparis

I'd have a seriously bad feeling on that one, having to deal regularly with the Chinese in my work (strictly don't care if I get flamed for that). However, you're only in for 29USD so damage is limited in case it's a sour deal. Hope it's OK for you.

The paypal and ebay protections would provide cushion against problems. I do not think there is much risk here except for those services. (And time value of money)

**shardulm** · 03-07-2017, 11:56 AM

Scam. For $29 that trunk full of stuff won't get shipped or the carrier will keep it as against the shipping costs.
Don't fall for these things... If they are too good to be true then they very likely are scams.

**Baard-Einar** · 03-07-2017, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Davidparis

I'd have a seriously bad feeling on that one, having to deal regularly with the Chinese in my work (strictly don't care if I get flamed for that). However, you're only in for 29USD so damage is limited in case it's a sour deal. Hope it's OK for you.

I knew that the risk is high. But paying with PayPal and the fact that we are talking about 29$ I will not go bankrupt.

And if you add the fact that part of the text is German and 0 feedback! It has to fail. Risky stuff.

Nessie · 03-07-2017, 12:33 PM - **1 Like**

It's a scam.

I found the original ebay listing Asahi Pentax Kamera mit 4 Ojektiven und Zubehör | eBay

**Baard-Einar** · 03-07-2017, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Nessie

It's a scam.

I found the original ebay listing Asahi Pentax Kamera mit 4 Ojektiven und Zubehör | eBay

Oops.
Maybe I can pull out. Do you know how?

CarlH · 03-07-2017, 12:59 PM

go to ebay help page and click cancel a order if the scammer hasn't recorded he has shipped the item yet, you should be able to cancel it

stevebrot · 03-07-2017, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Nessie

It's a scam.

I found the original ebay listing Asahi Pentax Kamera mit 4 Ojektiven und Zubehör | eBay

Damn! They cloned the listing! I have seen photos reused, but never a full clone.

Excellent detective work

Steve

**UncleVanya** · 03-07-2017, 01:17 PM

File a scam report with Ebay and/or paypal.
eBay Security Center: Welcome

**yucatanPentax** · 03-07-2017, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by Baard-Einar

I did get a confirmation now that they would ship within 48 hours. And that I just should get in contact if I have questions .
Estimated delivery is between March 21 and April 19.

Exiting small experiment.

I appreciate you sharing your experience with us. And I hope you do end up with that 35mm. Maybe you'll sell it to me for $49 US? Almost double what you paid for the whole case? What a great deal for you, right?

Update: Well, my post was a bit premature, as I see it's been uncovered to be a copied listing?

**Baard-Einar** · 03-07-2017, 01:27 PM - **1 Like**

Thanks guys.
I'll do that.

---------- Post added 03-07-2017 at 09:29 PM ----------

Originally posted by yucatanPentax

I appreciate you sharing your experience with us. And I hope you do end up with that 35mm. Maybe you'll sell it to me for $49 US? Almost double what you paid for the whole case? What a great deal for you, right?

I can sell it for 29 including shipping!

Nessie · 03-07-2017, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Damn! They cloned the listing! I have seen photos reused, but never a full clone.

Excellent detective work

Steve

Took one minute. The typo in the title (Ojektiven instead of Objektive) made it a very easy find.

**UncleVanya** · 03-07-2017, 03:07 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Nessie

Took one minute. The typo in the title (Ojektiven instead of Objektive) made it a very easy find.

Knowing the typo was there certainly was a bonus. Good work even if it was easy it was smart and helpful to the OP.

**loveisageless** · 03-07-2017, 10:56 PM

My thought was that if it wasn't a scam, the goods were most likely stolen and the thieves not very knowledgable about what they were fencing.

**Baard-Einar** · 03-08-2017, 01:11 AM

News:

This morning an e-mail arrived that made me much more assured

Really cool that there is no tracking number, but they can check where it is

Hi, dear
Thank you for your purchase,.
Very glad you have got the products.
This product is very good,
I believe that will bring happiness to you.
Product from % 100 original,
You know I very cheap sale,
So I can't use expensive shipping shipping,
I have to use CHINA POST shipping,
We can't provide tracking number. ,
But we can investigate the product to arrive at any time any place,
Any time you need to know the product to any position, please contact us.
We guarantee that you will receive the product in the 25 to 35 days, and happy use.
I believe that you will buy my products again in the future.
Thank you for your

robiles · 03-08-2017, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Did you notice the German language user guide too?

Steve

That was the first thing i noticed, which made me look a bit better at the pic. thats when i saw saw the öamtc sign.

P.S. I also noticed your name, stevebread

03-07-2017, 01:27 PM	#39
yucatanPentax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas / Yucatan Posts: 1,839	Originally posted by Baard-Einar I did get a confirmation now that they would ship within 48 hours. And that I just should get in contact if I have questions . Estimated delivery is between March 21 and April 19. Exiting small experiment. I appreciate you sharing your experience with us. And I hope you do end up with that 35mm. Maybe you'll sell it to me for $49 US? Almost double what you paid for the whole case? What a great deal for you, right? Update: Well, my post was a bit premature, as I see it's been uncovered to be a copied listing? Last edited by yucatanPentax; 03-07-2017 at 02:47 PM. Reason: other posts before mine provided new information!

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03-07-2017, 11:51 AM	#31
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,385	Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. Originally posted by Davidparis I'd have a seriously bad feeling on that one, having to deal regularly with the Chinese in my work (strictly don't care if I get flamed for that). However, you're only in for 29USD so damage is limited in case it's a sour deal. Hope it's OK for you. The paypal and ebay protections would provide cushion against problems. I do not think there is much risk here except for those services. (And time value of money)

03-07-2017, 11:56 AM	#32
shardulm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 793	Scam. For $29 that trunk full of stuff won't get shipped or the carrier will keep it as against the shipping costs. Don't fall for these things... If they are too good to be true then they very likely are scams.

03-07-2017, 12:08 PM	#33
Baard-Einar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oslo Photos: Gallery Posts: 964 Original Poster	Originally posted by Davidparis I'd have a seriously bad feeling on that one, having to deal regularly with the Chinese in my work (strictly don't care if I get flamed for that). However, you're only in for 29USD so damage is limited in case it's a sour deal. Hope it's OK for you. I knew that the risk is high. But paying with PayPal and the fact that we are talking about 29$ I will not go bankrupt. And if you add the fact that part of the text is German and 0 feedback! It has to fail. Risky stuff.

03-07-2017, 12:33 PM - 1 Like	#34
Nessie Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Ticino, Switzerland Posts: 45	It's a scam. I found the original ebay listing Asahi Pentax Kamera mit 4 Ojektiven und Zubehör \| eBay

03-07-2017, 12:43 PM	#35
Baard-Einar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oslo Photos: Gallery Posts: 964 Original Poster	Originally posted by Nessie It's a scam. I found the original ebay listing Asahi Pentax Kamera mit 4 Ojektiven und Zubehör \| eBay Oops. Maybe I can pull out. Do you know how?

03-07-2017, 12:59 PM	#36
CarlH Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Carlisle, Cumbria Posts: 58	go to ebay help page and click cancel a order if the scammer hasn't recorded he has shipped the item yet, you should be able to cancel it

03-07-2017, 01:16 PM	#37
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Nessie It's a scam. I found the original ebay listing Asahi Pentax Kamera mit 4 Ojektiven und Zubehör \| eBay Damn! They cloned the listing! I have seen photos reused, but never a full clone. Excellent detective work Steve

03-07-2017, 01:17 PM	#38
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,385	File a scam report with Ebay and/or paypal. eBay Security Center: Welcome

03-07-2017, 01:27 PM - 1 Like	#40
Baard-Einar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oslo Photos: Gallery Posts: 964 Original Poster	Thanks guys. I'll do that. ---------- Post added 03-07-2017 at 09:29 PM ---------- Originally posted by yucatanPentax I appreciate you sharing your experience with us. And I hope you do end up with that 35mm. Maybe you'll sell it to me for $49 US? Almost double what you paid for the whole case? What a great deal for you, right? I can sell it for 29 including shipping!

03-07-2017, 01:57 PM	#41
Nessie Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Ticino, Switzerland Posts: 45	Originally posted by stevebrot Damn! They cloned the listing! I have seen photos reused, but never a full clone. Excellent detective work Steve Took one minute. The typo in the title (Ojektiven instead of Objektive) made it a very easy find.

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03-07-2017, 03:07 PM - 1 Like	#42
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,385	Originally posted by Nessie Took one minute. The typo in the title (Ojektiven instead of Objektive) made it a very easy find. Knowing the typo was there certainly was a bonus. Good work even if it was easy it was smart and helpful to the OP.

03-07-2017, 10:56 PM	#43
loveisageless Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oakland, California Photos: Albums Posts: 1,250	My thought was that if it wasn't a scam, the goods were most likely stolen and the thieves not very knowledgable about what they were fencing.

03-08-2017, 01:11 AM	#44
Baard-Einar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oslo Photos: Gallery Posts: 964 Original Poster	News: This morning an e-mail arrived that made me much more assured Really cool that there is no tracking number, but they can check where it is Hi, dear Thank you for your purchase,. Very glad you have got the products. This product is very good, I believe that will bring happiness to you. Product from % 100 original, You know I very cheap sale, So I can't use expensive shipping shipping, I have to use CHINA POST shipping, We can't provide tracking number. , But we can investigate the product to arrive at any time any place, Any time you need to know the product to any position, please contact us. We guarantee that you will receive the product in the 25 to 35 days, and happy use. I believe that you will buy my products again in the future. Thank you for your

03-08-2017, 01:30 AM	#45
robiles Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Deva Posts: 311	Originally posted by stevebrot Did you notice the German language user guide too? Steve That was the first thing i noticed, which made me look a bit better at the pic. thats when i saw saw the öamtc sign. P.S. I also noticed your name, stevebread