Originally posted by boriscleto For a student using a camera for a school year, yes the Cosina (i.e. Vivitar 3800N) is a better choice. 1/2000s max shutter, 1/125 flash sync. DoF preview & multi-exposure button. And no need for new light seals...
I think I have to disagree with you on this one Ben. I own three V3800n cameras that were purchased for my grandchildren to use. Although you are right about the shutter speed and the flash synch (and it also includes a timer that lifts the mirror 10 seconds before the shutter fires.) The light diodes for the metering is also a bit easier to see then the needle at night. But there is more to consider in a student camera than just features, nice as they seem.
Two of the cameras have broken strap lugs which happens to be a common fault with this camera (and a few others that Cosina built.) One of the cameras fell from my granddaughter's shoulder and hit the ground lens down. The UV filter was smashed and though the lens did survive, it has a very stiff focus now since I suspect the helical is slightly jammed. For me this is not really terrific performance for the money spent.
Say what you will, the K1000 is quite a bit tougher than this, it had to be to put up with students over its very long production run. If the K1000 had been this fragile it certainly would not have lasted in production as long as it did, and it would not have built up the reputation it enjoys.
Personally I would have been further ahead buying a couple of K1000s, replacing the seals, and letting them use them. At least I would have something to sell once they moved on. Even broken K1000 cameras have some resale value. V3800ns...not so much. But, you spend your money and you take your chances.