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**clickclick** · 07-21-2018, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by timw4mail

But E-6 processing is pretty rare these days. Unless you live in a a major city, chances are it would need to be mailed out.

Yep, doing my own darkroom work, I forget this. I guess ordering from Freestyle is my equivalent of mailing it out.

normhead · 07-21-2018, 07:24 AM

SO, people are always talking about taking one lens out for a month and working solely with "the look" and parameters defined by that lens. I'm not seeing how working with one set of PP parameters is any different.

You could run "single for the month" with different cartridges.

**cdd29** · 07-21-2018, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by awscreo

Next stop - digi-cassette tapes, fairly simple - connect the "cassette" to your computer via usb, transfer strictly 90 minutes of music onto it, put the tape into the player and enjoy your music!

I saw something similar to this in the toy section of Target. It was a digital recorder that looked like a tape deck that uses fake tapes.

awscreo · 07-21-2018, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by cdd29

I saw something similar to this in the toy section of Target. It was a digital recorder that looked like a tape deck that uses fake tapes.

I'm behind the "stoooopid" timeline

**Kerrowdown** · 07-21-2018, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by dsmithhfx

Faux film is here

I actually think this a pretty cool and fun they've done here, I did check it's not 1st April mind before I posted this.

Numptyism... comes thick and fast to the old Kerrowdown these days.

**ChrisPlatt** · 07-22-2018, 07:41 AM

I saw this months ago on another photo forum, but haven't heard a peep since.
I'm not sure the associated Kickstarter campaign ever got off the ground.
I suspect we weren't the only ones groaning "Oh no, not this again"...

Chris

**UncleVanya** · 07-22-2018, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by redbirdpete

Their business. Now if someone would invent a digital recording media that could be inserted like a 35mm roll film THAT would be worth while!

There have been a few projects in that vein in kickstarter, but nothing with enough appeal and quality.

Helios 1984 · 07-25-2018, 05:36 AM

Lets say they'd re-launch the Minister D for a short time, would it sell more than this thing?

victormeldrew · 07-26-2018, 07:02 AM

There is a higher quality alternative with more or less the same idea:

Details // Leica M-D // Leica M-System // Photography - Leica Camera AG

Only real difference is the ISO is changed with a dial rather than a 'film' canister. Oh...and the price.

**gofour3** · 07-26-2018, 07:36 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by victormeldrew

Oh...and the price.

Yep, how much film you could buy for the cost of this camera? Probably a few years worth..........

Phil.

**UncleVanya** · 07-26-2018, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by victormeldrew

There is a higher quality alternative with more or less the same idea:

Details // Leica M-D // Leica M-System // Photography - Leica Camera AG

Only real difference is the ISO is changed with a dial rather than a 'film' canister. Oh...and the price.

To be fair there is more than just ISO involved in changing the "film" in the Yashica. It is changing the overall JPG processing including color vs. B&W etc. It is a set of predefined choices. A simple dial would have worked BUT this method does offer them the option of creating new profiles (ongoing sales) to expand the options.

victormeldrew · 07-26-2018, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

To be fair there is more than just ISO involved in changing the "film" in the Yashica.

That's true...and like I said earlier, I quite like the idea of the (so-called) Yashica. If it had limited image storage and it was actually stored on the film, it would do a great job of being 'filmish' without the hassle of film.

But, the way it is (proposed) at the moment, it's more-or-less a digital camera with no screen (I like that bit) but where you pay extra to change settings (I don't like that bit so much). The only difference with the Leica is that you pay upfront for the ability to change the settings yourself. Oh, and it's a Leica.

At that price it's either the Leica or a new kitchen, mind you...

**UncleVanya** · 07-26-2018, 11:55 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by victormeldrew

That's true...and like I said earlier, I quite like the idea of the (so-called) Yashica. If it had limited image storage and it was actually stored on the film, it would do a great job of being 'filmish' without the hassle of film.

But, the way it is (proposed) at the moment, it's more-or-less a digital camera with no screen (I like that bit) but where you pay extra to change settings (I don't like that bit so much). The only difference with the Leica is that you pay upfront for the ability to change the settings yourself. Oh, and it's a Leica.

At that price it's either the Leica or a new kitchen, mind you...

Right but my point is that you can't add new dial points on the Lecia. Yashica can add as many new "films" as they want. The externalization is a nice model in that respect. Of course a SCN mode and firmware can probably make the same impact but you'd have to charge for new SCENE mode presets and have a firmware that allowed adding new ones if you wanted the same marketing potential.

**WillWeaverRVA** · 07-26-2018, 12:00 PM

This is still a thing?

victormeldrew · 07-26-2018, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

you'd have to charge for new SCENE mode presets and have a firmware that allowed adding new ones if you wanted the same marketing potential.

Not so much if you're charging $6k for the body! Their lenses then add the future revenue.

It's clearly not a serious alternative, not just price-wise. But I thought it was funny that they came out with a similar philosophy at a similar time.
And also put it into production, which I doubt we'd ever see from the Yashica.

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07-21-2018, 07:20 AM	#31
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,904	Originally posted by timw4mail But E-6 processing is pretty rare these days. Unless you live in a a major city, chances are it would need to be mailed out. Yep, doing my own darkroom work, I forget this. I guess ordering from Freestyle is my equivalent of mailing it out.

07-21-2018, 07:24 AM	#32
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	SO, people are always talking about taking one lens out for a month and working solely with "the look" and parameters defined by that lens. I'm not seeing how working with one set of PP parameters is any different. You could run "single for the month" with different cartridges.

07-21-2018, 07:30 AM	#33
cdd29 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Southern Indiana Photos: Gallery Posts: 963	Originally posted by awscreo Next stop - digi-cassette tapes, fairly simple - connect the "cassette" to your computer via usb, transfer strictly 90 minutes of music onto it, put the tape into the player and enjoy your music! I saw something similar to this in the toy section of Target. It was a digital recorder that looked like a tape deck that uses fake tapes.

07-21-2018, 08:26 AM	#34
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722	Originally posted by cdd29 I saw something similar to this in the toy section of Target. It was a digital recorder that looked like a tape deck that uses fake tapes. I'm behind the "stoooopid" timeline

07-21-2018, 08:37 AM	#35
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,867	Originally posted by dsmithhfx Faux film is here I actually think this a pretty cool and fun they've done here, I did check it's not 1st April mind before I posted this. Numptyism... comes thick and fast to the old Kerrowdown these days.

07-22-2018, 07:41 AM	#36
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,702	I saw this months ago on another photo forum, but haven't heard a peep since. I'm not sure the associated Kickstarter campaign ever got off the ground. I suspect we weren't the only ones groaning "Oh no, not this again"... Chris

07-22-2018, 08:11 AM	#37
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,472	Originally posted by redbirdpete Their business. Now if someone would invent a digital recording media that could be inserted like a 35mm roll film THAT would be worth while! There have been a few projects in that vein in kickstarter, but nothing with enough appeal and quality.

07-25-2018, 05:36 AM	#38
Helios 1984 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Saint-Constant, Québec Posts: 747	Lets say they'd re-launch the Minister D for a short time, would it sell more than this thing?

07-26-2018, 07:02 AM	#39
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	There is a higher quality alternative with more or less the same idea: Details // Leica M-D // Leica M-System // Photography - Leica Camera AG Only real difference is the ISO is changed with a dial rather than a 'film' canister. Oh...and the price.

07-26-2018, 07:36 AM - 2 Likes	#40
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,093	Originally posted by victormeldrew Oh...and the price. Yep, how much film you could buy for the cost of this camera? Probably a few years worth.......... Phil.

07-26-2018, 09:35 AM	#41
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,472	Originally posted by victormeldrew There is a higher quality alternative with more or less the same idea: Details // Leica M-D // Leica M-System // Photography - Leica Camera AG Only real difference is the ISO is changed with a dial rather than a 'film' canister. Oh...and the price. To be fair there is more than just ISO involved in changing the "film" in the Yashica. It is changing the overall JPG processing including color vs. B&W etc. It is a set of predefined choices. A simple dial would have worked BUT this method does offer them the option of creating new profiles (ongoing sales) to expand the options.

07-26-2018, 11:00 AM	#42
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by UncleVanya To be fair there is more than just ISO involved in changing the "film" in the Yashica. That's true...and like I said earlier, I quite like the idea of the (so-called) Yashica. If it had limited image storage and it was actually stored on the film, it would do a great job of being 'filmish' without the hassle of film. But, the way it is (proposed) at the moment, it's more-or-less a digital camera with no screen (I like that bit) but where you pay extra to change settings (I don't like that bit so much). The only difference with the Leica is that you pay upfront for the ability to change the settings yourself. Oh, and it's a Leica. At that price it's either the Leica or a new kitchen, mind you...

07-26-2018, 11:55 AM - 1 Like	#43
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,472	Originally posted by victormeldrew That's true...and like I said earlier, I quite like the idea of the (so-called) Yashica. If it had limited image storage and it was actually stored on the film, it would do a great job of being 'filmish' without the hassle of film. But, the way it is (proposed) at the moment, it's more-or-less a digital camera with no screen (I like that bit) but where you pay extra to change settings (I don't like that bit so much). The only difference with the Leica is that you pay upfront for the ability to change the settings yourself. Oh, and it's a Leica. At that price it's either the Leica or a new kitchen, mind you... Right but my point is that you can't add new dial points on the Lecia. Yashica can add as many new "films" as they want. The externalization is a nice model in that respect. Of course a SCN mode and firmware can probably make the same impact but you'd have to charge for new SCENE mode presets and have a firmware that allowed adding new ones if you wanted the same marketing potential.

07-26-2018, 12:00 PM	#44
WillWeaverRVA Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,071	This is still a thing?

07-26-2018, 12:59 PM	#45
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by UncleVanya you'd have to charge for new SCENE mode presets and have a firmware that allowed adding new ones if you wanted the same marketing potential. Not so much if you're charging $6k for the body! Their lenses then add the future revenue. It's clearly not a serious alternative, not just price-wise. But I thought it was funny that they came out with a similar philosophy at a similar time. And also put it into production, which I doubt we'd ever see from the Yashica.

Hello Stupid! Faux film is here

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