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Sluggo · 11-21-2009, 12:17 PM

What's wrong with this picture?

Ole · 11-21-2009, 12:32 PM

How did a self timer show up on a K1000?

Or, how did a K1000 top plate show up on a KM!

KungPOW · 11-21-2009, 12:34 PM

It's a KM.

Sluggo · 11-21-2009, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by Ole

Or, how did a K1000 top plate show up on a KM!

I'm the culprit. :-)

Yes, it's a KM. Picked it up off the 'bay for $5.50 -- really couldn't let it pass. The price was so low because it had been dropped or something. The pentaprism was chipped at a couple corners, as you could see through the viewfinder, and the top cover had a sharp dent.

So now it has a pentaprism and top cover from a parts K1000. Everything seems to check out, so it's time for a test roll to see if there was any more hidden damage.

At first I was going to try to hammer out the dent, and then thought, it's more interesting this way, at least for now. Maybe later I'll get that bit of restoration done.

Blue · 11-21-2009, 01:56 PM

The rare KM1000.

Dangermouse · 11-21-2009, 02:36 PM

I've always been puzzled why Pentax dropped the KM and brought the K1000 in. The KM had some features that would have gone well on a student camera (which the K1000 often seems to be sold as) - the depth of field preview for example. The only Pentax film body I own with that is a P30T!

**ChrisPlatt** · 11-21-2009, 04:18 PM

I've thought about having Eric swap top covers on my KM so I could join the K1000 Club!

Chris

Last edited by ChrisPlatt; 11-21-2009 at 05:52 PM.

ryan s · 11-21-2009, 06:08 PM

Sell it to Aresenal Photo on ebay...they'd probably pay $500 and sell it for $1000

But you're still up over $400

**monochrome** · 11-21-2009, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Dangermouse

I've always been puzzled why Pentax dropped the KM and brought the K1000 in. The KM had some features that would have gone well on a student camera (which the K1000 often seems to be sold as) - the depth of field preview for example. The only Pentax film body I own with that is a P30T!

The K1000 was introduced as a budget line extension for the K bodies (along with the K2DMD as a top-end pro extension). At first it sold very poorly.

Olympus had shocked the camera world with their small, OM cameras. Pentax was a bit late to the game whe they discontinued the K bodies and replaced them with the smaller M series, in reaction to Olympus.

In order to keep cash flowing, the K1000 (basically a Spotmatic with a K-mount) was marketed at a give-away price point. Once it was adopted by schools as a teaching camera a cult following developed, and many hold it close to the heart as their first SLR. The rest is a remarkable history - the longest camera production run ever.

Pentax's decline really started in the early 70's, when they remained committed to the M42 mount. Had they introduced the K-mount on the Spotmatic II or ES in 1971, or even the Spotmatic F or ESII in 1973 they would not have lost so much market share.

Pentax has been struggling to catch up ever since.

As a side-bar, my daughter was Editor-in-Chief of her nationally-competitive HS Yearbook when our school district took some Federal revenue sharing money and outfitted the Journalism classrooms with Apple workstations. Once the hardware was there, it was a small step to replacing 40 K1000's with Canon digital cameras. The savings on photographic consumables alone replaces the computers every fourth year and the camera bodies every fourth year, on alternating two-year cycles. Had Pentax had a digital equivalent to the Canon, Mary would have spec'd it, but Canon and Nikon were the only viable options.

gabriel_bc · 11-21-2009, 06:29 PM

All you need now is some black paint and you'll have the even rarer "panda face" KM1000.

Love the Krocoduck reference - maybe Kirk Cameron shoots one of these?

Blue · 11-21-2009, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by gabriel_bc

All you need now is some black paint and you'll have the even rarer "panda face" KM1000.

Love the Krocoduck reference - maybe Kirk Cameron shoots one of these?

He could just get a black face of of a KX or KM.

Blue · 11-21-2009, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

The K1000 was introduced as a budget line extension for the K bodies (along with the K2DMD as a top-end pro extension). At first it sold very poorly.

Olympus had shocked the camera world with their small, OM cameras. Pentax was a bit late to the game whe they discontinued the K bodies and replaced them with the smaller M series, in reaction to Olympus.

In order to keep cash flowing, the K1000 (basically a Spotmatic with a K-mount) was marketed at a give-away price point. Once it was adopted by schools as a teaching camera a cult following developed, and many hold it close to the heart as their first SLR. The rest is a remarkable history - the longest camera production run ever.

Pentax's decline really started in the late 60's, when they remained committed to the M42 mount. Had they introduced the K-mount on the Spotmatic II or ES in 1971, or even the Spotmatic F or ESII in 1973 they would not have lost so much market share.

Pentax has been struggling to catch up ever since.

As a side-bar, my daughter was Editor-in-Chief of her nationally-competitive HS Yearbook when our school district took some Federal revenue sharing money and outfitted the Journalism classrooms with Apple workstations. Once the hardware was there, it was a small step to replacing 40 K1000's with Canon digital cameras. The savings on photographic consumables alone replaces the computers every fourth year and the camera bodies every fourth year, on alternating two-year cycles. Had Pentax had a digital equivalent to the Canon, Mary would have spec'd it, but Canon and Nikon were the only viable options.

That's true that had the brought out the K-mount in the ES II and Spot F, they would have gotten so far behind by 1985. The could have phased the m42 out while bringing in the k-mount which is what they did later anyway. The Metalica II at the '66 Photokina was the predecessor to the K2 and some dgree the Electro, ES and ES II.

Sluggo · 11-21-2009, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

I've thought about having Eric swap top covers on my KM so I could join the K1000 Club!

LOL! Or I could trade covers with you.

Dangermouse · 11-22-2009, 01:14 PM

I would also wonder whether Pentax suffered from making cameras up to a standard rather than down to a price. I have an Olympus OM10 here that, while undoubtedly a fine camera, doesn't feel anything like as good in my hands as a Pentax M series.

Vranx · 11-24-2009, 02:02 PM

Which piece shows the sheet music behind the camera? Looks like an orchestral part for a string instrument like violin or cello (or viola?).

Hobby or Pro?

Nosy as usual,

Vranx

11-21-2009, 12:17 PM	#1
Sluggo Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ames, Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 774	K is for Krocoduck What's wrong with this picture?

11-21-2009, 06:28 PM	#9
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Dangermouse I've always been puzzled why Pentax dropped the KM and brought the K1000 in. The KM had some features that would have gone well on a student camera (which the K1000 often seems to be sold as) - the depth of field preview for example. The only Pentax film body I own with that is a P30T! The K1000 was introduced as a budget line extension for the K bodies (along with the K2DMD as a top-end pro extension). At first it sold very poorly. Olympus had shocked the camera world with their small, OM cameras. Pentax was a bit late to the game whe they discontinued the K bodies and replaced them with the smaller M series, in reaction to Olympus. In order to keep cash flowing, the K1000 (basically a Spotmatic with a K-mount) was marketed at a give-away price point. Once it was adopted by schools as a teaching camera a cult following developed, and many hold it close to the heart as their first SLR. The rest is a remarkable history - the longest camera production run ever. Pentax's decline really started in the early 70's, when they remained committed to the M42 mount. Had they introduced the K-mount on the Spotmatic II or ES in 1971, or even the Spotmatic F or ESII in 1973 they would not have lost so much market share. Pentax has been struggling to catch up ever since. As a side-bar, my daughter was Editor-in-Chief of her nationally-competitive HS Yearbook when our school district took some Federal revenue sharing money and outfitted the Journalism classrooms with Apple workstations. Once the hardware was there, it was a small step to replacing 40 K1000's with Canon digital cameras. The savings on photographic consumables alone replaces the computers every fourth year and the camera bodies every fourth year, on alternating two-year cycles. Had Pentax had a digital equivalent to the Canon, Mary would have spec'd it, but Canon and Nikon were the only viable options. Last edited by monochrome; 11-21-2009 at 10:23 PM.

11-24-2009, 02:02 PM	#15
Vranx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beautiful Bavaria :-) Posts: 123	Sheet Music Which piece shows the sheet music behind the camera? Looks like an orchestral part for a string instrument like violin or cello (or viola?). Hobby or Pro? Nosy as usual, Vranx

11-21-2009, 12:32 PM	#2
Ole Administrator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,409	How did a self timer show up on a K1000? Or, how did a K1000 top plate show up on a KM!

11-21-2009, 12:34 PM	#3
KungPOW Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,699	It's a KM.

11-21-2009, 12:42 PM	#4
Sluggo Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ames, Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 774 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ole Or, how did a K1000 top plate show up on a KM! I'm the culprit. :-) Yes, it's a KM. Picked it up off the 'bay for $5.50 -- really couldn't let it pass. The price was so low because it had been dropped or something. The pentaprism was chipped at a couple corners, as you could see through the viewfinder, and the top cover had a sharp dent. So now it has a pentaprism and top cover from a parts K1000. Everything seems to check out, so it's time for a test roll to see if there was any more hidden damage. At first I was going to try to hammer out the dent, and then thought, it's more interesting this way, at least for now. Maybe later I'll get that bit of restoration done.

11-21-2009, 01:56 PM	#5
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	The rare KM1000.

11-21-2009, 02:36 PM	#6
Dangermouse Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 283	I've always been puzzled why Pentax dropped the KM and brought the K1000 in. The KM had some features that would have gone well on a student camera (which the K1000 often seems to be sold as) - the depth of field preview for example. The only Pentax film body I own with that is a P30T!

11-21-2009, 04:18 PM	#7
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,697	I've thought about having Eric swap top covers on my KM so I could join the K1000 Club! Chris Last edited by ChrisPlatt; 11-21-2009 at 05:52 PM.

11-21-2009, 06:08 PM	#8
ryan s Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,383	Sell it to Aresenal Photo on ebay...they'd probably pay $500 and sell it for $1000 But you're still up over $400

11-21-2009, 06:29 PM	#10
gabriel_bc Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Langley, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 550	All you need now is some black paint and you'll have the even rarer "panda face" KM1000. Love the Krocoduck reference - maybe Kirk Cameron shoots one of these?

11-21-2009, 06:31 PM	#11
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by gabriel_bc All you need now is some black paint and you'll have the even rarer "panda face" KM1000. Love the Krocoduck reference - maybe Kirk Cameron shoots one of these? He could just get a black face of of a KX or KM.

11-21-2009, 06:35 PM	#12
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by monochrome The K1000 was introduced as a budget line extension for the K bodies (along with the K2DMD as a top-end pro extension). At first it sold very poorly. Olympus had shocked the camera world with their small, OM cameras. Pentax was a bit late to the game whe they discontinued the K bodies and replaced them with the smaller M series, in reaction to Olympus. In order to keep cash flowing, the K1000 (basically a Spotmatic with a K-mount) was marketed at a give-away price point. Once it was adopted by schools as a teaching camera a cult following developed, and many hold it close to the heart as their first SLR. The rest is a remarkable history - the longest camera production run ever. Pentax's decline really started in the late 60's, when they remained committed to the M42 mount. Had they introduced the K-mount on the Spotmatic II or ES in 1971, or even the Spotmatic F or ESII in 1973 they would not have lost so much market share. Pentax has been struggling to catch up ever since. As a side-bar, my daughter was Editor-in-Chief of her nationally-competitive HS Yearbook when our school district took some Federal revenue sharing money and outfitted the Journalism classrooms with Apple workstations. Once the hardware was there, it was a small step to replacing 40 K1000's with Canon digital cameras. The savings on photographic consumables alone replaces the computers every fourth year and the camera bodies every fourth year, on alternating two-year cycles. Had Pentax had a digital equivalent to the Canon, Mary would have spec'd it, but Canon and Nikon were the only viable options. That's true that had the brought out the K-mount in the ES II and Spot F, they would have gotten so far behind by 1985. The could have phased the m42 out while bringing in the k-mount which is what they did later anyway. The Metalica II at the '66 Photokina was the predecessor to the K2 and some dgree the Electro, ES and ES II.

11-21-2009, 09:32 PM	#13
Sluggo Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ames, Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 774 Original Poster	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt I've thought about having Eric swap top covers on my KM so I could join the K1000 Club! LOL! Or I could trade covers with you.

11-22-2009, 01:14 PM	#14
Dangermouse Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 283	I would also wonder whether Pentax suffered from making cameras up to a standard rather than down to a price. I have an Olympus OM10 here that, while undoubtedly a fine camera, doesn't feel anything like as good in my hands as a Pentax M series.

K is for Krocoduck

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