One quick question about MZ-S

nannankevin · 02-16-2011, 01:39 PM

Does it take DA lens ?
Can I use AV mode ?
Thanks !

Adam · 02-16-2011, 01:45 PM

No, you can't enter AV mode as you need to be able to move the aperture ring to do that. Also, remember that DA lenses don't cover the FF format (except for the 40mm).

The PZ-1 supports AV mode on DA lenses as it has two scroll wheels.

séamuis · 02-16-2011, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by nannankevin

Does it take DA lens ?
Can I use AV mode ?
Thanks !

1. your DA lenses will work yes. not all of them will completely cover the full film frame, as they are not intended for use on 35mm film. the longer the focal length the more likely it will cover the full frame. the wider the more it will vignette.
2.yes

séamuis · 02-16-2011, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by Adam

No, as you need to be able to use the aperture ring to do that (I think). Also, remember that DA lenses don't cover the FF format (except for the 40mm).

why would a DA lens not be able to use Av mode on an MZ-S? it will communicate just the same as any manual lens with the ‘A’ setting on the aperture ring will it not? im confused on this. im sure any DA lens will be able to take advantage of Av mode.

Adam · 02-16-2011, 01:55 PM

Right, but on the MZ-S, you have to use the aperture ring to enter Av Mode. The scroll wheel is only for shutter speed.

séamuis · 02-16-2011, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Right, but on the MZ-S, you have to use the aperture ring to enter Av Mode. The scroll wheel is only for shutter speed.

but isn’t a DA lens basically like a lens thats permanently on the ‘A’ setting? you have an MZ-S yes, so you can try? im still a bit confused, because the lens would have to be on the ‘A’ setting anyway to use any program AE mode would it not? or does the MZ-S do Av like the older manual cameras such as say an ME super?

Adam · 02-16-2011, 03:21 PM

Yes, it can sense the aperture based on the aperture ring position. It isn't "crippled".

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séamuis · 02-16-2011, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Yes, it can sense the aperture based on the aperture ring position. It isn't "crippled".

shows how little I know of the contemporary Pentax film cameras.

violini · 02-16-2011, 04:16 PM

On MZ-S and MZ-5N, you need to turn aperture ring to set Av mode. On MZ-6, you can use in-body control to set Av.

**tranq78** · 02-27-2011, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by violini

On MZ-S and MZ-5N, you need to turn aperture ring to set Av mode. On MZ-6, you can use in-body control to set Av.

Think of the MZ-6 as a cheap alternative to the MZ-S. It doesn't have the 2 second MLU, the viewfinder is dimmer, and the optional AA battery pack FG is not as useful as the MZ-S' (but at least one is available). These are the only functional disadvantages. The MZ-6/ZX-L has DOF preview as well, which I find to be a very useful feature.

The MZ-6 has 2 advantages over the MZ-S. Firstly, as mentioned, you can control the aperture through the body. Secondly, you can set the camera to spot meter by just hitting the AE-L button and it will then reset itself back to matrix metering. On the MZ-S you have to remember to turn a switch to take the camera off spot meter mode, and I've wasted many a shot on the MZ-S because I've forgotten this.

Adam · 02-27-2011, 05:23 PM

Don't forget about the data imprint feature, too! (or does the MZ-6 have it as well?)

**tranq78** · 02-27-2011, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Don't forget about the data imprint feature, too! (or does the MZ-6 have it as well?)

Good point. Another +1 advantage for the MZ-S. I didn't think about it because I take hand written notes of all my pictures, so I don't use this feature.

02-16-2011, 01:39 PM	#1
nannankevin Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 5	One quick question about MZ-S Does it take DA lens ? Can I use AV mode ? Thanks !

02-16-2011, 01:45 PM	#2
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593	No, you can't enter AV mode as you need to be able to move the aperture ring to do that. Also, remember that DA lenses don't cover the FF format (except for the 40mm). The PZ-1 supports AV mode on DA lenses as it has two scroll wheels. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-16-2011, 01:55 PM	#5
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593	Right, but on the MZ-S, you have to use the aperture ring to enter Av Mode. The scroll wheel is only for shutter speed. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-27-2011, 05:23 PM	#11
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593	Don't forget about the data imprint feature, too! (or does the MZ-6 have it as well?) Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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02-16-2011, 01:45 PM	#3
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by nannankevin Does it take DA lens ? Can I use AV mode ? Thanks ! 1. your DA lenses will work yes. not all of them will completely cover the full film frame, as they are not intended for use on 35mm film. the longer the focal length the more likely it will cover the full frame. the wider the more it will vignette. 2.yes

02-16-2011, 01:47 PM	#4
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by Adam No, as you need to be able to use the aperture ring to do that (I think). Also, remember that DA lenses don't cover the FF format (except for the 40mm). why would a DA lens not be able to use Av mode on an MZ-S? it will communicate just the same as any manual lens with the ‘A’ setting on the aperture ring will it not? im confused on this. im sure any DA lens will be able to take advantage of Av mode.

02-16-2011, 03:09 PM	#6
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by Adam Right, but on the MZ-S, you have to use the aperture ring to enter Av Mode. The scroll wheel is only for shutter speed. but isn’t a DA lens basically like a lens thats permanently on the ‘A’ setting? you have an MZ-S yes, so you can try? im still a bit confused, because the lens would have to be on the ‘A’ setting anyway to use any program AE mode would it not? or does the MZ-S do Av like the older manual cameras such as say an ME super?

02-16-2011, 03:21 PM	#7
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593	Yes, it can sense the aperture based on the aperture ring position. It isn't "crippled". Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-16-2011, 03:24 PM	#8
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by Adam Yes, it can sense the aperture based on the aperture ring position. It isn't "crippled". shows how little I know of the contemporary Pentax film cameras.

02-16-2011, 04:16 PM	#9
violini Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Winnipeg MB Photos: Gallery Posts: 350	On MZ-S and MZ-5N, you need to turn aperture ring to set Av mode. On MZ-6, you can use in-body control to set Av.

02-27-2011, 12:23 PM	#10
tranq78 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,005	Originally posted by violini On MZ-S and MZ-5N, you need to turn aperture ring to set Av mode. On MZ-6, you can use in-body control to set Av. Think of the MZ-6 as a cheap alternative to the MZ-S. It doesn't have the 2 second MLU, the viewfinder is dimmer, and the optional AA battery pack FG is not as useful as the MZ-S' (but at least one is available). These are the only functional disadvantages. The MZ-6/ZX-L has DOF preview as well, which I find to be a very useful feature. The MZ-6 has 2 advantages over the MZ-S. Firstly, as mentioned, you can control the aperture through the body. Secondly, you can set the camera to spot meter by just hitting the AE-L button and it will then reset itself back to matrix metering. On the MZ-S you have to remember to turn a switch to take the camera off spot meter mode, and I've wasted many a shot on the MZ-S because I've forgotten this.

02-27-2011, 06:43 PM	#12
tranq78 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,005	Originally posted by Adam Don't forget about the data imprint feature, too! (or does the MZ-6 have it as well?) Good point. Another +1 advantage for the MZ-S. I didn't think about it because I take hand written notes of all my pictures, so I don't use this feature.

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